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Groucho
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 Cheney & Gonzales Indicted No, seriously. A South Texas grand jury has indicted Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on charges related to the alleged abuse of prisoners in Willacy County's federal detention centers. The indictment criticizes Cheney's investment in the Vanguard Group, which holds interests in the private prison companies running the federal detention centers. It accuses Cheney of a conflict of interest and "at least misdemeanor assaults" on detainees by working through the prison companies. Gonzales is accused of using his position while in office to stop an investigation into abuses at the federal detention centers. Another indictment charges state Sen. Eddie Lucio Jr. with profiting from his public office by accepting honoraria from prison management companies. http://www.kvii.com/news/story.aspx?id=223992_________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Is there any teeth to this?
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted so this means what? do they go to jail?
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Chippy
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted You first.
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Groucho
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted No idea. The info I posted is all they have yet...
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Mannyisthebest
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Um, a former VP going to jail and especially a man like Cheney.
I would doubt that...
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Alex Y.
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted They should've waited until after January for the indictment, because Bush could easily pardon them from any punishment now.
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BJ
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted there is justice.
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Beeblebrox
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Rorschach wrote: Apparently the attorney general involved is on the last few weeks of his term. So this may just be a case of a guy trying to get the most out of his public office. But it may not be. We'll see. Groucho could verify this but the AG can only bring the case. The Grand Jury has to grant the indictment. I think that means there's at least something there.
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Groucho
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Beeblebrox wrote: Rorschach wrote: Apparently the attorney general involved is on the last few weeks of his term. So this may just be a case of a guy trying to get the most out of his public office. But it may not be. We'll see. Groucho could verify this but the AG can only bring the case. The Grand Jury has to grant the indictment. I think that means there's at least something there. Yeah, he at least got a group of average citizens (the Grand Jury) to agree that there is something there, so it's not like one guy doing something on his own. _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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Eagle
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Regardless of outcome, couldn't Bush simply pardon them both on his last day in office ala Bill Clinton?
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redspear
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Eagle wrote: Regardless of outcome, couldn't Bush simply pardon them both on his last day in office ala Bill Clinton? If memory serves you can only pardon someone who has been convicted but I may be wrong.
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Groucho
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted redspear wrote: Eagle wrote: Regardless of outcome, couldn't Bush simply pardon them both on his last day in office ala Bill Clinton? If memory serves you can only pardon someone who has been convicted but I may be wrong. Well, that's how it is supposed to be -- in fact, usually you're not pardoned until you're finished your sentence and parole, but Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes he committed or may have committed before the charges were even filed. _________________Buy my books! http://michaelaventrella.com
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nghtvsn
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted loyalfromlondon wrote: so this means what? do they go to jail? Go to jail? We'd see Presidential Pardons before any of these crooks go anywhere.
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Caius
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted Quote: A judge in Texas has dismissed indictments against Vice President Dick Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
Administrative Judge Manuel Banales ruled Monday that the indictments were improperly returned by a Willacy County grand jury.
The indictment against Cheney alleged that his personal investment in the Vanguard Group, which invests in private prison companies, made him culpable in alleged prisoner abuse at privately run federal detention centers.
The judge also dismissed indictments against two district judges, two special prosecutors and the district clerk, saying the prosecutor was both the alleged victim and the person presenting the cases.
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Jim Halpert
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Re: Cheney & Gonzales Indicted yeah there was no way this was going to happen
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