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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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Groucho wrote: And happened on his watch, after he had been warned by outgoing president Clinton that Osama was planning on attacking and did nothing. Geez, if a democrat had been in office when it happened, you'd never let up on it. Mike, stop projecting your close minded attitudes on me. Did you somehow miss that I was a big Clinton supporter and not a fan of Bush? Just because you support communism doesn't mean I have to. And you really need to stop letting CNN think for you. Hey, everybody, apparently Mike imagines that he has access to important meetings and documents! He seriously has talked himself into that! He's "in the loop!!!" LOL Quote: That's never apparently stood in your way before... You do realize that you don't have a clue what you are talking about, right? Maverikk wrote: But it was an attack on American soil, which you, one post ago, denied had happened. Thanks for admitting it. I realize you were embarrassed by me calling your close minded communist views out, but don't kill your credibility even further. Stop trying to spin. I said "and nobody fucked with us here like they would have with a weaker person in charge." so learn to comprehend so you don't make yourself look even more retarded... Quote: Fuck you. I only see one ignorant person in this thread right now, one who thinks that giving away a contract to inspect our ports to Dubai was a "great job with homeland security", who seems to be so ignorant that he forgets that Bush stopped looking for bin Laden and even said he wasn't important. You stupid inbred. You're completely clueless, so go throw your tantrum and pee your pants on somebody elses time. Are you really that damn dumb that you believe that? Do you make this up as you go along to help everything fit neatly into your little closed mind? Quote: In fact I personally have prevented tigers from attacking in downtown Philadelphia. My proof? Look, it hasn't happened, has it?!! You'd have to be ignorant not to acknowledge that!!!  And look what it's come to for you!  You've been reduced to a 3 year old mentality, and all because you can't see past your communist ideals. Who's fault is that, George W. Bush? You really need to quit playing monkey see, monkey do and start thinking for yourself. Even if it's just a little bit at first so you don't overwhelm yourself with independent thought. People like you are the problem with this country. You can't see past the end of your nose.
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Quote: One of the main problems with most conservatives is that they cannot understand how people can possibly think differently from them. I see this all the time -- they assume that if you don't agree with them, it's because you're either stupid or deluded. Basically they are convinced that they and only they know what is right.
I don't think it's a coincidence that many of these people are also highly religious. People who are convinced that they are the only ones who see the truth tend not to be very tolerant or understanding of alternate views. give me a break... The amount of elitist socialists and elitist atheists on the left is staggering and their ignorance is as astounding as the religious right. They seriously still believe that the govt should do everything and really will get rid of the whole concept of self reliance and responsibility in our society. I am not saying all socialists or atheists are stupid, but there are a lot who will not listen like a lot of extreme conservatives. I know a lot of conservatives and they are very bi-partisan and very responsive to democratic values as well. There are a lot of democrats that like some republican values. A great example was how a lot of people respected John McCain before 2004. That is why, I find it stupid that people go so far to the left or to the right. WHY DO PEOPLE FIND IT SO HARD THAT A COMBINATION OF SOCIAL LIBERALISM AND FISCAL CONSERVATISM IS THE BEST CHOICE? Look at our greatest Presidents my friends.
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Look, Congratulations on having the 1st Black President.. It is quite an accomplishment, it's just that Obama is the wrong Black Man to be President and in fact, it should've been Colin Powell as President.. Now THAT'S someone I could buy and support as our President, someone who has infinite experience, someone we know and could trust in the time of an attack.. Who's Barack Obama?? Who's Obama?? As a matter of fact, Obama even stated during his acceptance speech the other night that he's not even going to get anything accomplished in his 1st Term!! His 1st Term and who's to say the public would vote him in for a 2nd term if he can't make good on all these promises in his 1st term?? Isn't that what this was all about in getting this guy elected to begin with?? It'll cost close to a Trillion dollars for all of his promises to work and it's not going to happen.. Were already Broke.. Where the hell is all this $$$ going to come from???
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Mannyisthebest
Forum General
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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That is undoubtedly one of the biggest flaws of Barrack Obama and John McCain ^^^
Such rhetoric would never fly in so called soviet Canada.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:20 am |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Homer: Not a bear in sight. The "Bear Patrol" is working like a charm! Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad. Homer: [uncomprehendingly] Thanks, honey. Lisa: By your logic, I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away. Homer: Hmm. How does it work? Lisa: It doesn't work; it's just a stupid rock! Homer: Uh-huh. Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you? Homer: (pause) Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:16 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:09 pm |
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Groucho
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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BJ wrote: Beeblebrox wrote: KidRock69x wrote: You need a new avatar. Bring back Shrek. I might use Rev's sig pic. Although I've grown rather attached to my current one. Not as attached as they are to each other, of course, but that's all over and done with now I suppose. I liked your old Homer Simpson avatar. Shouldn't he have, you know, Zaphod as an avatar?
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Gulli wrote: Do Tory supports think like that? Do Union for a Popular Movement supporters think like that? Do Union of Christian and Centre Democrats supporters think like that?
You are basically pigeon holing Conservatism in the a manner that would be similar to saying all Liberal's asscribe to the policies of the 1946 French Communist Party. Except I didn't use the word "all" I said "most" and I stand by that statement... Certainly they are not all like that.
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Gulli
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Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Groucho wrote: Gulli wrote: Do Tory supports think like that? Do Union for a Popular Movement supporters think like that? Do Union of Christian and Centre Democrats supporters think like that?
You are basically pigeon holing Conservatism in the a manner that would be similar to saying all Liberal's asscribe to the policies of the 1946 French Communist Party. Except I didn't use the word "all" I said "most" and I stand by that statement... Certainly they are not all like that. Ok then do most of them think like that? I think you are making the mistake of looking at the nutty Palinite supporters and then projecting them on to all area's of Conservatism both in the USA and elsewhere. I mean seriously most of the member's of the British Tory party are irrational zealots? Thats news to me.
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Gulli wrote: Groucho wrote: Gulli wrote: Do Tory supports think like that? Do Union for a Popular Movement supporters think like that? Do Union of Christian and Centre Democrats supporters think like that?
You are basically pigeon holing Conservatism in the a manner that would be similar to saying all Liberal's asscribe to the policies of the 1946 French Communist Party. Except I didn't use the word "all" I said "most" and I stand by that statement... Certainly they are not all like that. Ok then do most of them think like that? I think you are making the mistake of looking at the nutty Palinite supporters and then projecting them on to all area's of Conservatism both in the USA and elsewhere. I mean seriously most of the member's of the British Tory party are irrational zealots? Thats news to me. Well, I'm mostly refering to American conservatives, since America doesn't quite fit the rest of the world in our left/right distinctions anyway. I mean, a conservative in Canada would be considered a liberal here! But yeah, I'm refering to the Palinesque right wing wacko conservatives more than the moderate ones (like my own Senator Specter).
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Gulli
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Groucho wrote: Gulli wrote: Groucho wrote: Gulli wrote: Do Tory supports think like that? Do Union for a Popular Movement supporters think like that? Do Union of Christian and Centre Democrats supporters think like that?
You are basically pigeon holing Conservatism in the a manner that would be similar to saying all Liberal's asscribe to the policies of the 1946 French Communist Party. Except I didn't use the word "all" I said "most" and I stand by that statement... Certainly they are not all like that. Ok then do most of them think like that? I think you are making the mistake of looking at the nutty Palinite supporters and then projecting them on to all area's of Conservatism both in the USA and elsewhere. I mean seriously most of the member's of the British Tory party are irrational zealots? Thats news to me. Well, I'm mostly refering to American conservatives, since America doesn't quite fit the rest of the world in our left/right distinctions anyway. I mean, a conservative in Canada would be considered a liberal here! But yeah, I'm refering to the Palinesque right wing wacko conservatives more than the moderate ones (like my own Senator Specter). Ok cool beans.
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Floydboy
ha ha, charade you are
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 2210
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Obama wins N.C. as well!Well dang, that's mighty impressive.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:43 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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Courtesy of Sully: http://results.enr.clarityelections.com ... l?cid=0103This the county that Palin called the "real America." They voted for Obama. 
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:36 pm |
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Pretty much almost every place in the country voted more democratic than last time -- except parts of Arizona and Alaska (McCain and Palin's home states, not surprising) and the Appalachians, who apparently can't yet take the idea of a black man in power. 
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:11 pm |
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Floydboy
ha ha, charade you are
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 2210
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I was looking intently at the county in Colorado that is darker red there. From what I saw from CNN, they voted for Obama more than McCain. So I guess that means that in 2004 they voted almost entirely for Kerry? I don't know, I think that might be an outlier.
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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It appears McCain's hail Mary in Pennsylvania resulted in only 5-10% increase in Pittsburgh but this was nullified by the gigantic black vote in Philly.
Clearly you can see Louisiana will easily stay as a Red state. One of the few demographic changes in the past few years that has helped the Republicans.
Look at Texas, you can see a line and generally that is where you start seeing more Latino's.
looks like the Clintons had zero impact in Arkansas but helped him in Ohio and Flordia. Obama looks like is not liked at all in the Appalachians.
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Floydboy wrote: I was looking intently at the county in Colorado that is darker red there. From what I saw from CNN, they voted for Obama more than McCain. So I guess that means that in 2004 they voted almost entirely for Kerry? I don't know, I think that might be an outlier. Yeah that is strange. Note that MA also has some redder areas, but that can probably be explained by an unusually high number voting for MA based Kerry last time. EDIT: I was thinking that it may also have a relation to local races too. If there is a really popular and well organized Republican running who brings out the base, that could also account for it.
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Groucho
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:30 pm Posts: 12096 Location: Stroudsburg, PA
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Mannyisthebest wrote: It appears McCain's hail Mary in Pennsylvania resulted in only 5-10% increase in Pittsburgh but this was nullified by the gigantic black vote in Philly. My area in Pennsylvania (the Poconos, on the east coast touching NJ) also made a big difference, apparently. It has grown in population 75% in 10 years -- one of the fastest growing areas in the country -- and it's almost all people from NYC and Jersey moving to a more rural/suburban life. But they're all Democrats. When I first moved here in 97, it was dominated by Republicans, and we just went for Obama by 60%. We've also gone from something like a 4% black population to a 20% one, so I'm sure that had an effect as well.
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:11 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 4679
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Just out of morbid curiosity, where has Ann Coulter been?
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:39 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32635 Location: the last free city
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Beeblebrox wrote: Just out of morbid curiosity, where has Ann Coulter been? on her radio show being her normal self.
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:53 am |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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Beeblebrox wrote: Just out of morbid curiosity, where has Ann Coulter been? I heard her on Monday on the dreadful Sean Hannity show. I'm sure she'll come out of the woods and say something moderately inane in the next few days. Karl Rove + the Cosby's level of drek.
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:49 am |
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BK
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Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 8:30 am Posts: 7041
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LOL at Arkansas. But has anyone heard Obama may snatch an electoral vote in Nebraska?
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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BK wrote: LOL at Arkansas. But has anyone heard Obama may snatch an electoral vote in Nebraska? why are we laughing at Arkansas?
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:33 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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^the map Groucho posted
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Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:00 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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Fox News is blaming the current stock market crash on Obama. Shocking.
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