Republicans are re-electing him because they don't want the seat to go to a Democrat -- their hope is that he resigns and then Palin gets to appoint his replacement.

I haven't seen a % on that yet although more of them did go for Obama than Kerry.

Or Palin be his replacement.

04 was 17% and now so far around 18%. But you are right, by something like 2-1 they went for Obama.

Going from 17% to 18% of the vote is still a rather big increase of 5.8%

I'll believe what I want to believe, thank you very much.

And I love that some of the Obama haters now believe that the majority of the American voting public are now communists. Get over yourselves.

One of the main problems with most conservatives is that they cannot understand how people can possibly think differently from them. I see this all the time -- they assume that if you don't agree with them, it's because you're either stupid or deluded. Basically they are convinced that they and only they know what is right.

I don't think it's a coincidence that many of these people are also highly religious. People who are convinced that they are the only ones who see the truth tend not to be very tolerant or understanding of alternate views.

theres another one.

yes because liberals dont think that way at all.

Look up the definition of Liberalism and Conservatism for me, wouldya?

And snack provides the case in point for Jim.

@Snack: That is not what he was talking about.

I'm personally going with Jim on this one. I find Liberals to be the exact same, just different ideas.

Some are, without a doubt. But in general, the whole concept of liberalism is being tolerant to different cultures and types of people.

bABA is correct, liberals are just as if not moreso condescending and "in your face" when it comes to being loud about their views and totally disregarding where the conservative viewpoint is coming from. I have no issue with and even enjoy well founded and based conservative arguments.

The reality is though that liberal arguments, at least in this election, are much more founded than the conservative ones. There's way way WAY too much clear indication that Obama is a better choice than McCain for the presidency right now. I'm not going to pretend to "respect the opinion" of someone who supports putting Palin in the White House, or sticking with the economic plan of the last 8 years... it's just wrong. I mean look at all the Republican spin and press we were laughing at the last 6 months, trying to support that side after the last eight years was clearly a matter of grasping for straws and came off as more looney than anything.

I tend to be quite tolerant except in one area.

You see, I think it is important to repect other views. I can have a good debate with conservatives over tax policy, foreign policy, and so on and know that in these areas, we can have disagreements about what the best way is to accomplish our goals and what our goals should be.

Where I am intolerant is in areas where conservatives want to force their views on everyone through the laws, primarily in the hot topics of gay rights and religion. I will defend anyone's right to practice their religion as they see fit, but when they try to make me practice their religion is when I get angry and fight back.

You don't like abortions? Fine, don't have one. Don't like gay marriage? Fine, don't get gay married. Believe in creationism? Fine, but don't force others to study it.

Liberals who believe in tolerance can admittedly be intolerant towards people who are intolerant toward them.

I think you may have misinterpreted what i said.

You said 'republicans can't understand how someone could think differently from them'

I feel its the same with liberals. You may not be gay but you support gays and thats who you are. You may think dying your hair blue is fine but you'd never do it and thats who you are. I will not speak for you personally but its at least my opinion of most liberals i'ev ever met that 'they can't possibly understand if people THINK differently from them, not DO differently from them'.

lol. Seriously.

If Obama is a communist, then I am glad that I voted for communism. Better than a shithole democracy that McCain was offering.

Yeah, in particular that's why I prefer a lot of the Buddha and Hindu religions to Christianity, because for the most part they're not as based in fundamentalism... you can interpret the religion and the gods as you wish and they are open to varying beliefs. I have much less respect for the people that buy into "the earth was made 4000 years ago and Jesus walked on water because this little book says so, anyone who says differently is wrong" completley without any evidence.

well when we invent a time machine shack you and me can go back in time with a video camera and videotape Jesus walking on water.

Remember when Obama was a socialist commie Marxist?

Well guess what:

KARL ROVE: Barack Obama understands this is a center-right country and he smartly and wisely ran a campaign that emphasized it.

I'm not the one supporting a one party system. You and Groucho seem to only want YOUR party running things. Where is the democracy in that? Different times call for different leadership and different ideals, but you people are too busy putting labels like "liberals" and "conservatives" on people, and standing beside one party, til death do us part.

(a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.)

Is that what you really want, because I've never seen you or Mike or any of the staunch supporters of the other side say anything different.

I about choked when I read his hypocritical reply, considering how he's the most stubborn person here when it comes to listening the other side.

Republican strategist Ed Rollins on CNN: "We're now a white southern party"

Amen.

It would be nice if the Republicans went back and re-defined themselves, but I'm not sure that's what will happen here. I hate that my party is on the wrong side of an issue like Gay Rights, not that Democrats are any shining light guiding the country to liberty, but the're certainly the lesser of two evils, and it's very disheartening.

The real ideals and values of conservatism are being muddled and forgotten by far too much nonsense.