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Beeblebrox
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar ... e-con.htmlIt's been less than two days since he crossed the delegate threshold to become the Democratic presidential nominee and Sen. Barack Obama's mark on the party is already being felt.
On Good Morning America Thursday, ABC News' Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos reported "the Democratic National Committee will no longer accept contributions from federal lobbyists, will no longer take contributions from PACs" in keeping with Obama's well-publicized policy.
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:16 pm |
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jujubee
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Nice!
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:21 pm |
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Christian
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Good. Just hope this isn't for show.
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:26 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
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ok, that's a bit refreshing I must admit.
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:31 pm |
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Caius
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Beeblebrox wrote: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/dnc-no-more-con.html
It's been less than two days since he crossed the delegate threshold to become the Democratic presidential nominee and Sen. Barack Obama's mark on the party is already being felt.
On Good Morning America Thursday, ABC News' Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos reported "the Democratic National Committee will no longer accept contributions from federal lobbyists, will no longer take contributions from PACs" in keeping with Obama's well-publicized policy. Hahahaha, you guy's actually buy this garbage. Here's a nice article from The National Review (since we get lot's of Daily Kos posts, I find this fair) Quote: Of course, Obama left out a number of caveats. According to his campaign’s de facto standards, taking money from state and municipal lobbyists is acceptable, employing “former†lobbyists on the campaign is okay, as is having lobbyists as unpaid advisers, and taking money from lobbyists wives is acceptable. The Center for Responsive Politics has reported that Obama has taken $85,000 directly from state and municipal lobbyists or the family members of federal lobbyists. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGNhMmU0YjAyYmI4ZGM4NmQ0NzcyYmRkODI5ZWNmNjg=
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:28 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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KidRock69x wrote: Here's a nice article from The National Review (since we get lot's of Daily Kos posts, I find this fair) I didn't post anything from Daily Kos. NRO is a right-wing rag that constantly gets their facts wrong. You can't do any better than that? That's your idea of "fair"?
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:33 pm |
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Caius
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Beeblebrox wrote: KidRock69x wrote: Here's a nice article from The National Review (since we get lot's of Daily Kos posts, I find this fair) I didn't post anything from Daily Kos. NRO is a right-wing rag that constantly gets their facts wrong. You can't do any better than that? That's your idea of "fair"? My idea of "fair" is noting that something is from a biased source, which I did. http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=41047&p=1163612#p1163612As to the article at hand, it was nice of you to dismiss it out of hand with a sweeping generalization. If you simply note the portion of the original article I highlighted, "federal lobbyists," you can see the utter uselessness of Obama's and the DNC's posistion.
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:47 pm |
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Beeblebrox
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You post an ADMITTEDLY BIASED article (that you laughably characterize as "fair") from a source of highly questionable integrity, so why would it be so surprising that I would dismiss it out of hand? It wasn't even a news article. It was an editorial, which makes it even more ridiculous for you to try and pass it off as information. I try to only post articles from legit mainstream sources for that very reason, because left-leaning and right-leaning sites aren't reliable sources of factual information. Here's how that "article" begins: Incredulous, easy-to-debunk claims of presidential candidates are often subjected to fierce media scrutiny. In the case of Obama, however, the media has been suspiciously negligent.
Supremely confident of his intractable media support, a carefree Obama conceals his contradictions and weak positions with blanket statements, effectively misrepresenting the truth, distorting his record to make it more favorable, or sweeping criticisms under the rug. And a starry-eyed media smiles and nods.What a barrel of enlightening facts that is. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that NRO, who have been unapologetic Bush supporters on torture and the war and now are supporting McCain, that they actually CARE about a candidate "misrepresenting the truth" or "distorting his record to make it more favorable." Please tell me you're not that stupid.
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:55 pm |
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Caius
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You actually had to read the whole article for the facts and source material (links contained in original). If it was a simple editorial, I would not have posted it. Quote: Peter Bynoe has pledged to raise between $100,000 and $200,000 for the senator. Bynoe was an Illinois state lobbyist who is on the federal government’s list of people who helped raise money for Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich through Chicago political rainmaker Tony Rezko. When he wasn’t helping Obama with his shady housing purchase, Rezko was busy arranging for kickbacks for Blagojevich’s wife and other senior officials in Blagojevich’s administration, which has also been the target of a number of unrelated Federal corruption investigations.
Mike Bauer has pledged to raise between $50,000 and $100,000 for Obama. Another Illinois state lobbyist, Bauer was suspended from practicing law for improperly taking $300,000 from a family trust fund. According to the Chicago Tribune, “During the same time he was taking money from the trust fund, his donations to national and local candidates totaled $300,000.†But Obama didn’t take issue with Bauer’s unethical conduct or distance him from the campaign. “Mike has been a leader in the community and a good supporter of our campaign and many others. He is working through this difficult, private challenge with his family, and we wish them well,†Obama spokesman Bill Burton told the Tribune.
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Beeblebrox
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KidRock69x wrote: If it was a simple editorial, I would not have posted it. It's sad, and yet unsurprising, that you can't actually tell the difference. Here is the key to the NR piece's spin: When Obama says he hasn’t taken money from lobbyists, what he means to say is that he hasn’t taken money directly from the bank accounts of registered lobbyists. He’s taken lots and lots of money from lobbyists who are out actively raising money from others on his behalf.Obama hasn't said anything about not using bundlers, and in fact, lists them all on his website BY NAME - which NRO describes as "less than transparent." Um, yeah. So NRO admits that Obama has stayed true to his pledge but proceeds to redefine basic terms and then builds a case against Obama based on those redefined terms. And this: When he wasn’t helping Obama with his shady housing purchase, RezkoNo, that's not editorial at ALL. It's also not actually true. Not that you care. Because if there's one thing the right is deeply concerned about, it's politicians with ties to shady characters. "The home and lot sales closed on June 15, 2005. A land trust controlled by the Obamas bought the house for $1.65 million, and the Obamas secured a $1.32 million mortgage from Northern Trust to complete that purchase.
The senator's campaign provided a copy of a previously released e-mail from the sellers. In response to questions from the Obama campaign, the sellers agreed that they "did not offer or give the Obamas a 'discount' on the house price" because Rezko paid their asking price for the yard."It's a pretty silly hit piece. And I notice that both you and NRO had very little to say, let alone an elaborate diatribe, about McCain's "reform" campaign being essentially RUN by lobbyists. The lone comment I could find on the NRO site was criticism against McCain for not taking MORE money from lobbyists. And that's ignoring yours and their asinine problem with "distorting his record to make it more favorable." Oh yeah, I'm sure you're deeply, deeply disturbed by such a thing.
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