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insomniacdude
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 Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA http://infowars.net/articles/may2008/020507DNA.htmQuote: President Bush last week signed into law a bill which will see the federal government begin to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. within six months, a move critics have described as the first step towards the establishment of a national DNA database. Described as a "national contingency plan" the justification for the new law S. 1858, known as The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007, is that it represents preparation for any sort of "public health emergency." The bill states that the federal government should "continue to carry out, coordinate, and expand research in newborn screening" and "maintain a central clearinghouse of current information on newborn screening... ensuring that the clearinghouse is available on the Internet and is updated at least quarterly". Sections of the bill also make it clear that DNA may be used in genetic experiments and tests. Read the full bill here. To be fair for the inevitable Bush bashing, this wouldn't have been able to be signed if it didn't pass through the two houses of Congress...
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Treachery beyond belief but this has been going by some States for YEARS now but people don't give a rip and it's kind of impossible to do anything since the state steals your newborn's blood for testing when the hospital can do it at the time anyway. Then the blood gets stored in a databank which is shared with anyone and everyone and now your dna is no longer yours. I wonder if Ron Paul and Kucinich voted against this.
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Privacy's been dead for years anyway.
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA "I am not a number."
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Sun Ra wrote: Privacy's been dead for years anyway.
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Alex Y.
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Can someone give a brief rundown of the negative consequences that will come about from this?
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Chippy
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA So...  _________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA alex young wrote: Can someone give a brief rundown of the negative consequences that will come about from this? I'm not sure there really are any...
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insomniacdude
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Jeff wrote: alex young wrote: Can someone give a brief rundown of the negative consequences that will come about from this? I'm not sure there really are any... It's one more step for a national database of citizens. It started way back when everyone started to be assigned a SSN, which has started to become more a National Identification number. Then the Real ID Act passed through Congress thus further solidifying a move to a National Database of everybody. I'm sure there are plenty of benefits that can come from DNA screening. I'm not against the screening itself. I'm against some person being used as a tool of some person or group of people against that person's will. I'm surprised that the question about negative consequences need be asked. _________________
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA They'd be able to absolutely identify PETA supporters, so they could shut them down, as desired by the freedom crushers in the other thread... 
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Bradley Witherberry wrote: They'd be able to absolutely identify PETA supporters, so they could shut them down, as desired by the freedom crushers in the other thread...  PETA wants people to have limits. That's not freedom. _________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Magnus wrote: Munk·E wrote: So... I concur. I mean....so what? Piracy gets invaded. We don't have absolute piracy in this country. Deal with it or get out. Simple as that. That's a real terrible political philosophy to have, especially in a country that was founded on a person's right to determine how they should be ruled. _________________
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA insomniacdude wrote: Magnus wrote: Munk·E wrote: So... I concur. I mean....so what? Piracy gets invaded. We don't have absolute piracy in this country. Deal with it or get out. Simple as that. That's a real terrible political philosophy to have, especially in a country that was founded on a person's right to determine how they should be ruled. I think Magnus and Munk-E must be joking - - no one can be that nonchalant about surrendering the hard one freedoms of their forefathers, can they? Look closely at Magnus' quote above - - See! He is joking... 
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Bradley Witherberry wrote: I think Magnus and Munk-E must be joking - - no one can be that nonchalant about surrendering the hard one freedoms of their forefathers, can they? Munk is a Bush supporter, which means that there is no executive power too great, whether it's wire-tapping your phone without court oversight or torturing American citizens. They do not believe in freedom or privacy, just Republican rule. Unless of course, Obama is in charge. Then they go back to screaming about the intrusion of "big government!" But Republicans no longer have a leg to stand on (not that they ever did) about government power, not after they've whole-heartedly supported the abuses by the current president.
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA Beeblebrox wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: I think Magnus and Munk-E must be joking - - no one can be that nonchalant about surrendering the hard one freedoms of their forefathers, can they? Munk is a Bush supporter, which means that there is no executive power too great, whether it's wire-tapping your phone without court oversight or torturing American citizens. They do not believe in freedom or privacy, just Republican rule. Unless of course, Obama is in charge. Then they go back to screaming about the intrusion of "big government!" But Republicans no longer have a leg to stand on (not that they ever did) about government power, not after they've whole-heartedly supported the abuses by the current president. Uhmm Munk-E is an Obama supporter
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA redspear wrote: Beeblebrox wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: I think Magnus and Munk-E must be joking - - no one can be that nonchalant about surrendering the hard one freedoms of their forefathers, can they? Munk is a Bush supporter, which means that there is no executive power too great, whether it's wire-tapping your phone without court oversight or torturing American citizens. They do not believe in freedom or privacy, just Republican rule. Unless of course, Obama is in charge. Then they go back to screaming about the intrusion of "big government!" But Republicans no longer have a leg to stand on (not that they ever did) about government power, not after they've whole-heartedly supported the abuses by the current president. Uhmm Munk-E is an Obama supporter That's not a mutually exclusive concept. I supported Bush as well.
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Re: Bush signs bill to take newborn DNA HA! You're me!
What I wouldn't give to be you being me!!!
Also... so what? Oh no! All of our DNA is on file!!! What shall we do?!?
I hope they make me a clone.
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