Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy
| Author |
Message |
|
Tyler
Powered By Hate
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:55 pm
Posts: 7578
Location: Torrington, CT
|
 Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
_________________
It's my lucky crack pipe.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:21 pm |
|
|
|
Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am
Posts: 32635
Location: the last free city
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy you're about a month behind, Loyal.
_________________
Is it 2028 yet?
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:52 pm |
|
|
|
Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm
Posts: 4767
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Sun Ra wrote: Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama! Nice di-version! Nice di-version! Nice di-version!
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:09 pm |
|
|
|
dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm
Posts: 16061
Location: The Damage Control Table
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Oh man. Am I seriously the only person that doesn't really care about Wright? I already laughed this off a month ago and said about the only thing that bothered me about him was that he was a reverend in the first place. I can't believe how seriously people take this, and it illuminates one thing alone: America enjoys revelling in its short-term memory.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:09 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Dolcinea wrote: Oh man. Am I seriously the only person that doesn't really care about Wright? I already laughed this off a month ago and said about the only thing that bothered me about him was that he was a reverend in the first place. I can't believe how seriously people take this, and it illuminates one thing alone: America enjoys revelling in its short-term memory. Yeah, I'm pretty much over caring about it.
_________________
See above.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:24 pm |
|
|
|
Ripper
2.71828183
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:16 pm
Posts: 7827
Location: please delete me
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Dolcinea wrote: Oh man. Am I seriously the only person that doesn't really care about Wright? I already laughed this off a month ago and said about the only thing that bothered me about him was that he was a reverend in the first place. I can't believe how seriously people take this, and it illuminates one thing alone: America enjoys revelling in its short-term memory. Nope, I still don't give a flying fuck.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:01 pm |
|
|
|
Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm
Posts: 14631
Location: Pittsburgh
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy KidRock69x wrote: Sun Ra wrote: Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama!
Barack HUSSEIN Obama! Nice di-version! Nice di-version! Nice di-version! Maybe you haven't seen the clip where Wright says that? _________________
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:15 pm |
|
|
|
Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm
Posts: 14631
Location: Pittsburgh
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy As for Wright, Loyal is right, the guy is fucking beyond nuts. But unlike Dolce and Ripper, I find myself a bit uneasy about his and Obama's relationship. I would feel a lot better if Obama would distance himself, but as of now, he pretty much refuses to, instead just distancing himself from the crazy, but embracing the man. I don't understand how someone can pretty much say: "I respect his advice and opinion, except when he's crazy." I mean, Obama said: Quote: "What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics." So he clearly paints Wright as a man who he trusts, as a man he shares his goals and opinions with. That means this man has some influence over Obama, however slight it may be, and that simply doesn't sit well with me. I hope Obama distances himself from Wright sometime in the future, and I feel McCain will pretty much force him to. _________________
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:24 pm |
|
|
|
Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm
Posts: 37162
Location: The Graveyard
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy I hope he just keeps talking. Make the reporters and everyone else keep questioning Obama over this (whether or not it's important or not doesn't matter). Make all his answers be either "I don't like Rev Wright" or "I'm not debating Hillary anymore" leading inton NC and IN.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:25 pm |
|
|
|
Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm
Posts: 4767
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy I read this line earlier and found it somewhat humorous. Quote: Help Us Barack Obama, You're Our Only Hope
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:34 pm |
|
|
|
dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm
Posts: 16061
Location: The Damage Control Table
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Eagle wrote: As for Wright, Loyal is right, the guy is fucking beyond nuts. But unlike Dolce and Ripper, I find myself a bit uneasy about his and Obama's relationship. I would feel a lot better if Obama would distance himself, but as of now, he pretty much refuses to, instead just distancing himself from the crazy, but embracing the man. I don't understand how someone can pretty much say: "I respect his advice and opinion, except when he's crazy." I mean, Obama said: Quote: "What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He's much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I'm not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics." So he clearly paints Wright as a man who he trusts, as a man he shares his goals and opinions with. That means this man has some influence over Obama, however slight it may be, and that simply doesn't sit well with me. I hope Obama distances himself from Wright sometime in the future, and I feel McCain will pretty much force him to. Obama can't distance himself too much of he'll look like a hypocrite. Its in writing...his own writing...that he signed and published. So he is in a bit of a bind. Furthermore, I don't necessarily disagree with what Obama said about 'keeping it real." While I don't think Wright is right at all, and I wouldn't say I want his kind of opinion ruling the country, I do think its important to give a voice to the fringe (all fringe) in order to re-politicize certain topics. I do not think everything can be reduced to 'class' in this country, nor do I think everything is about 'race.' This is a way of keeping the balance, and yes, repoliticizing national rhetoric. One of the things I find most annoying about Obama, actually, is his rhetoric is that everything can be resolved by class analysis and solutions. I have no problem with people in the periphery yelling that there might be more to it than that. Some class issues, especially education and health access, I agree can be dealt with on the individual irregardless of race, sex, urban/rural, etc. Other things, such as employment descrimination and harassment, and social psychology, can't. Also, I do not think Obama is trying to stay close to this guy. This is just the best he can finagle right now. And I would agree with everyone here who has observed Wright doesn't want him to win. Wright is pushing for a strictly racial agenda, and is mad at Obama for not sharing the same views.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:49 pm |
|
|
|
Amer
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:35 pm
Posts: 1912
Location: Texas
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy If you listened to his speech in Detroit, he made some very valid points that all you guys would probably agree with. He have some radical views, but I do not think he is as bad as everyone is painting him out to be. Granted, he is pretty crazy, but has some decent points.
_________________
The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.....
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:35 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy It is just becoming a circus, and one has to wonder if Wright knows this and is just playing along with the charade. Will this doom Obama? I don't know. It might, but if it doesn't I wouldn't be surprised.
_________________
See above.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:04 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Oh, and I'm sorry, but I am so fucking tired of the whole "Government created AIDS to get rid of black people in the US" legend.
It is such an asinine statement and it infuriates me so.
_________________
See above.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:05 pm |
|
|
|
Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm
Posts: 37162
Location: The Graveyard
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy loyalfromlondon wrote: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/roughsketch/?hpid=topnews Quote: Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, explaining this morning why he had waited so long before breaking his silence about his incendiary sermons, offered a paraphrase from Proverbs: "It is better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Barack Obama's pastor would have been wise to continue to heed that wisdom.
Should it become necessary in the months from now to identify the moment that doomed Obama's presidential aspirations, attention is likely to focus on the hour between nine and ten this morning at the National Press Club. It was then that Wright, Obama's longtime pastor, reignited a controversy about race from which Obama had only recently recovered - and added lighter fuel.
Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks ("God damn America") and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America.
In front of 30 television cameras, Wright's audience cheered him on as the minister mocked the media and, at one point, did a little victory dance on the podium. It seemed as if Wright, jokingly offering himself as Obama's vice president, was actually trying to doom Obama; a member of the head table, American Urban Radio's April Ryan, confirmed that Wright's security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.
Wright suggested that Obama was insincere in distancing himself from his pastor. "He didn't distance himself," Wright announced. "He had to distance himself, because he's a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was anti-American."
Explaining further, Wright said friends had written to him and said, "We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected." The minister continued: "Politicians say what they say and do what So he's saying that Obama only said he distanced himself from him (Wright) so he could get elected, and that being a politician, he has to do what needs to be done to succeed. It's what Obama has been preaching for months and months now though. About not having a typical politician (Wright makes Obama sound just like your typical politician here) in the white house, etc. Obama will likely come out again and say he has indeed distanced himself from Wright, and that he is a new clean politician. But I think the 20 year relationship (it's personal of course), and Wright's own words here say otherwise. _________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:15 pm |
|
|
|
Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am
Posts: 13403
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy FDR had a working relationship with Joe Stalin, does this mean he was a evil lunatic by association??? What assanine nonsense this is.
_________________
Rosberg was reminded of the fuel regulations by his wheel's ceasing to turn. The hollow noise from the fuel tank and needle reading zero had failed to convay this message
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:30 pm |
|
|
|
Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm
Posts: 4767
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Gulli wrote: FDR had a working relationship with Joe Stalin, does this mean he was a evil lunatic by association??? What assanine nonsense this is. No, not by association.... ....but he was anyway.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:45 pm |
|
|
|
Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am
Posts: 13403
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy KidRock69x wrote: Gulli wrote: FDR had a working relationship with Joe Stalin, does this mean he was a evil lunatic by association??? What assanine nonsense this is. No, not by association.... ....but he was anyway. Check under your bed Jason I've seeded a whole nest of Communists there!
_________________
Rosberg was reminded of the fuel regulations by his wheel's ceasing to turn. The hollow noise from the fuel tank and needle reading zero had failed to convay this message
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:47 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy loyalfromlondon wrote: Jeff wrote: Oh, and I'm sorry, but I am so fucking tired of the whole "Government created AIDS to get rid of black people in the US" legend.
It is such an asinine statement and it infuriates me so. I'm 99% sure AIDS was caused by tainted oral polio vaccines in the 1950's. 
_________________
See above.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:19 pm |
|
|
|
dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm
Posts: 16061
Location: The Damage Control Table
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Well, its not like there isn't a long enough memory of Tuskegee Study-like experiments that I wouldn't understand someone's paranoia in making such a claim. That and there really was some seriously shit politics around AIDS in homosexuals and minorities throughout the 80's. US government might not have 'created' AIDS in a test-tube, but Reagan sure as hell did everything he could to ignore it until it 'spilled over' from what he perceived to be less desirable populations in this country. And, btw, Wright is sabataging Obama's campaign to fulfill his own desires to provide an exampla. He is interested in 'proving' how racist this country is. That way he can get up afterwards and say, "See, I told you the States would never elect an Black man." That's why he has been implying that Obama is only 'saying' that they are distant, but that in reality they are really still quite close. The best you guys can do if you want to support Obama is just ignore Wright. Geesh, I can't believe I'm defending Obama. 
Last edited by dolcevita on Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:45 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy Dolcinea wrote: Well, its not like there isn't a long enough memory of Tuskegee Study-like experiments that I wouldn't understand someone's paranoia in making such a claim. That and there really was some seriously shit politics around AIDS in homosexuals and minorities throughout the 80's. US government might not have 'created' AIDS in a test0tube, but Reagan sure as hell did everything he could to ignore it until it 'spilled over' from what he perceived to be less desirable populations in this country. And, btw, Wright is sabataging Obama's campaign to fulfill his own desires to provide an exampla. He is interested in 'proving' how racist this country is. That way he can get up afterwards and say, "See, I told you the States would never elect an Black man." That's why he has been implying that Obama is only 'saying' that they are distant, but that in reality they are really still quite close. The best you guys can do if you want to support Obama is just ignore Wright. Geesh, I can't believe I'm defending Obama. Oh yeah I'm not defending the US (or the world's) response to AIDS, but blaming ultimately the government for creating it, gives the government way too much credit. No, instead we chose to ignore it and gloss over it. Can you imagine what it would have been like had we not waited until it was already too late to stop the pandemic?
_________________
See above.
|
| Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:51 pm |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy loyalfromlondon wrote: Yeah, the whole story is sad when you realize while trying to eradicate one horrible diseasse, they accidentially created another. In short, HIV is a Simian Virus which mutated to infect humans when we unknowingly vaccinated millions of Africans with contaminated polio vaccine.
That is one hypothesis, yes. Key word: unknowingly. There are a lot of problems with that theory though. Africa is known to be the center of several viruses (including Ebola and Marburg, two particularly nasty ones) which started with "animal reservoirs" (one Ebola strain is believed to be carried by a species of bats which is immune to the effects), and it could very easily just have started with contamination from primates or other animals. The first recorded case of Marburg for example is believed to have come from a man who traveled to Africa and contacted the reservoir for the virus and then later died. Actually I just read that they only hypothesized (apparently "officially") that bats are the reservoir for Marburg in 2007. Read the book The Hot Zone though which was published mid-1990's and bats are mentioned as a possible suspect back then. Actually I'd highly recommend that book to anyone who is interested in Ebola or Marburg. Fascinating book really, although there have been several new outbreaks (and two new strains have been reported recently). Anyway...I'm getting off topic, epidemiology was always one of my favorite subjects.
_________________
See above.
|
| Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:25 am |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy loyalfromlondon wrote: I'm 99% sure AIDS was caused by tainted oral polio vaccines in the 1950's. So initially I wasn't sure what you meant, but I did some reading: http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/ ... ood94.htmlGranted, there are still problems with the theory, I don't know the probability of two separate strains of the virus crossing to humans in two separate geographic locations (HIV-2 in Africa and then the strain possibly having developed after the Hepatitis inoculation). There has been some work done on finding "patient zero" who may have brought HIV from Africa to the US (and at one point they thought they had found him). The problem is that during that period of time (the sexual revolution among the homosexual community especially prevalent in NYC and elsewhere) is figuring out who would have gotten it from the vaccine and who would have gotten it from sexual contact or swapping needles...
_________________
See above.
|
| Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:49 am |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy I think at the root of all of this is our society's need to "blame someone" for such a pandemic. Now, don't get me wrong, the governments of the world royally fucked up by not addressing the issue a lot sooner, but that doesn't mean some wayward scientist "created HIV". It infuriates me the most that people think it was created to "get rid of Black people" (playing the victim card, when the evidence is obviously not present). Sigh.
_________________
See above.
|
| Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:22 am |
|
|
|
Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm
Posts: 28110
Location: Awaiting my fate
|
Re: Rev. Wright Is Fuckin' Crazy loyalfromlondon wrote: Taking it full circle back to Wright, I think there's a world of difference between what happened with the Tuskegee Experiments and the advent of HIV/AIDS. Wright is simply pushing the fear agenda for the naive parts of black society. Now if he wants to talk about the links between the CIA and in the influx of crack cocaine in the 1980's, I'm game.  Again, the Tuskegee experiment involved researchers denying treatment to the "participants" not infecting them (as far as I understand). And the government did not create syphilis. The study was a horrendous error, and nightmare and a blight on research as a whole, don't get me wrong.
_________________
See above.
|
| Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:45 am |
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 60 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|
