Arkansas is important

Thanks for saying that so I don't have to.

The bottom line is that the rules were established long ago. Delegates are more important than votes, and Michigan and Florida won't count. She knew the rules before she went in.

Thank god. I don't want 1-2 communist party or NAZI party members of Congress. Then watching in annoyance as they sit on some piss-ant committee just so they would side with a larger party. I enjoy our first past the post system. It forces the parties to be less radical than they would otherwise like, and this is from someone who is fairly radical.

Thank god. I don't want 1-2 communist party or NAZI party members of Congress. Then watching in annoyance as they sit on some piss-ant committee just so they would side with a larger party. I enjoy our first past the post system. It forces the parties to be less radical than they would otherwise like, and this is from someone who is fairly radical.

We have proportional representation, but a party must receive at least 5% of the nationwide popular vote to be seated in parliament. The end result being that there are currently five parties in parliament. There is a similar system in many other European countries, and it works pretty well as far as I can tell.

Israel has a similar system, and its downright terrible.

Yes but Israel has a shedload of different parties getting little slices of the vote.

Both Edwards and Obama had their names on the Michigan ballot, and removed themselves as an act of solidarity with the Democratic Party. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, lied and said she wouldn't bother with the effort because Michigan "won't count anyway."

There's no foresight involved. Just honesty and the lack thereof. Edwards is an honest man; too bad honesty fares so poorly against the House of Clinton.

Counting Michigan's uncommitted votes toward Obama, he once again has a large popular vote lead.

She won't win Montana, South Dakota, and Oregon. They're as impossible for her as Pennsylvania was for Obama. North Carolina won't be that close by virtue of the large black population alone.

Counting Michigan's uncommitted votes toward Obama, he once again has a large popular vote lead.

The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws Committee will meet on Saturday, May 31 in Washington, D.C., to consider whether the DNC panel exceeded its authority when it stripped Florida and Michigan of all of its delegates for holding their primaries before Feb. 5th, 2008.

The Michigan and Florida challenges are trying to get all of the superdelegates plus half of the two states' pledged delegates seated at this summer's Democratic National Convention.

The challenges, which will be watched closely by the Democratic presidential candidates, do not stipulate how the pledged delegates should be split between Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Getting the Florida and Michigan delegations seated is a top priority for Clinton not only for the additional delegates it could yield but also as a way of getting more superdelegates to pay attention to the votes she garnered in the two states when assessing which candidate has more popular support.

In an interview set to appear in Saturday's Financial Times, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean says that he thinks the Democratic race for president will come down to superdelegates' perception of electability.

"I think the race is going to come down to the perception in the last six or eight races of who the best opponent for McCain will be. I do not think in the long run it will come down to the popular vote or anything else," said Dean.

Hillary does poorly with independents and has much higher negatives than Obama so when he says electability he's codedly saying Obama. I wouldn't side with Dean if you're for Clinton.

The Clintons presided over the worst era ever for the democratic party. They went from majority to obscurity on the Clintons' watch. Whether that was their fault or not is academic, people get credit and blame for what they preside over. The last thing the super delegates want is any chance of going back to that so it would take a lot for them to side with Hillary, more than just her having a little more of the popular vote count. Obama's campaign would have to implode in some unforseen way.

The idea that this is a neck and neck race going down to the wire is a fabrication of tv networks who want to get ratings. It has pretty much been over since Wisconsin barring some new out of left field bombshell.

I'm not saying she should get out of the race but if she's going to stay in, she should stop smearing the 99% likely democratic nominee and doing McCain's work for him.

She won't win Montana, South Dakota, and Oregon. They're as impossible for her as Pennsylvania was for Obama. North Carolina won't be that close by virtue of the large black population alone.

I am willing to bet a Ban Bet on South Dakota. Obama won the near by states but they were caucuses. I don't think Clinton would even have to campaign that much in South Dakota to win. Oregon is the state that you may be the most right about unlike you I do think she could win that.It is a state that holds a lot of independents who may so that should make it a tight race. You are right she won't be within 5% in NC most likely but that is what she should strive for. It is the largest chunk of delegates with the largest population left so she would need to keep that as close as possible. Oregon and Montana are questionable but I think Montana will be easier for Clinton than Oregon where she will need to campaign hard.

Oregon is a closed primary, so only registered Democrats will be able to vote. Same with South Dakota and Kentucky.

Yes but still I think Oregon may be pretty tough Hillary but I would call it far from a long shot. Many democrats in Oregon are very independent minded and one thing I think that has worked against Clinton so far is the whole Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton(again?) mentality. To be honest I can understand that logic and the feeling that someone who is not Clinton would bring a different administration. It is something I disagree with but I can understand it.

However I do think there is a disconnect between primaries and caucuses I do not disregard one more than the other but I consider them to gauge different things.

A cauces isnt an election at all.

But them's the rules. I prefer primaries myself but you know, the time to complain about it and change it is between elections, not after you lose the caucuses.

I'm not. But she can make the case that winning tons of caucuses doesn't neccessarily mean you will do well in a general election. Texas is a great example here since it had both. In the general election, Clinton would have won. But since caucuses exclude too many people, the results do not reflect who the voters of the state voted for.

If Iowa had been a primary, you can bet Obama would have lost, and Edwards probably would have won a narrow victory over Hillary Clinton, and Obama would have quickly faded away since the spotlight wouldnt have been on him, and the black community wouldn't have swarmed to him like they did after he won the Iowa Caucus. If the difference between a Caucus and a Primary has such a significant difference on who wins the state, there is a problem somewhere. Before that win, Clinton was winning the black support. A Caucus is a terrible way to judge how a candidate will perform in a general election.

Nevada GOP's state convention shut down early
Posted: 05:16 PM ET
Rep. Ron Paul addressed the Nevada Republican Party's convention Saturday.

RENO, Nevada (AP) — Outmaneuvered by raucous Ron Paul supporters, Nevada Republican Party leaders abruptly shut down their state convention and now must resume the event to complete a list of 31 delegates to the GOP national convention.

Outnumbered supporters of expected Republican presidential nominee John McCain faced off Saturday against well-organized Paul supporters. A large share of the more than 1,300 state convention delegates enabled Paul supporters to get a rule change positioning them for more national convention delegate slots than expected.

"I've seen factions walk out. I've never seen a party walk out," said Jeff Greenspan, regional coordinator for the Paul campaign.

Delegates cheered earlier in the day as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain. Later, though, Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.

State Sen. Bob Beers, the convention chairman, was booed loudly as he called for a recess Saturday evening. He said that the party's rental contract for a big meeting room at a Reno hotel-casino had expired and there was too much work left to complete.

State GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden said the rules change wasn't anticipated. She denied any anti-Paul bias, saying expected slates of national delegates were prepared through a fair and open process by the convention's nominations committee and the party thought the convention would accept them.