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SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, the nation's only Hispanic governor, is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama for president, calling him a "once-in-a- lifetime leader" who can unite the nation and restore America's international leadership.

Richardson, who dropped out of the Democratic race in January, is to appear with Obama on Friday at a campaign event in Portland, Ore., The Associated Press has learned.

The governor's endorsement comes as Obama leads among delegates selected at primaries and caucuses but with national public opinion polling showing Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton pulling ahead of him amid controversy over statements by his former pastor.

Richardson has been relentlessly wooed by Obama and Clinton for his endorsement. As a Democratic superdelegate, the governor plays a part in the tight race for nominating votes and could bring other superdelegates to Obama's side. He also has been mentioned as a potential running mate for either candidate.

No primaries are scheduled until Pennsylvania's on April 22, a gap in time Obama hopes to use for such announcements to assert that he is the front-runner for the nomination.

"I believe he is the kind of once-in-a-lifetime leader that can bring our nation together and restore America's moral leadership in the world," Richardson said in a statement obtained by the AP. "As a presidential candidate, I know full well Sen. Obama's unique moral ability to inspire the American people to confront our urgent challenges at home and abroad in a spirit of bipartisanship and reconciliation."

Richardson's endorsement also could help Obama pick up support among Hispanics, who are the nation's largest and fastest-growing minority.

Clinton has been the favorite of Hispanics in primaries and caucuses, according to exit polls. She won the New Mexico caucus in early February with a nearly 2-to-1 advantage among Hispanics.

Richardson backed Obama despite his ties to Clinton and her husband, the former president. He served as ambassador to the U.N. and as secretary of the Energy Department during the Clinton administration. Last month, Richardson and former President Clinton watched the Super Bowl together at the governor's residence in Santa Fe.

Richardson praised Hillary Clinton as a "distinguished leader with vast experience." But the governor said Obama "will be a historic and great president, who can bring us the change we so desperately need by bringing us together as a nation here at home and with our allies abroad."

"There is no doubt in my mind that Barack Obama has the judgment and courage we need in a commander in chief when our nation's security is on the line. He showed this judgment by opposing the Iraq war from the start, and he has show it during this campaign by standing up for a new era in American leadership internationally," Richardson said.

Obama said he was "deeply honored" to have Richardson's support.

"Whether it's fighting to end the Iraq war or stop the genocide in Darfur or prevent nuclear weapons from falling into the hands of terrorists, Gov. Richardson has been a powerful voice on issues of global security, peace and justice, earning five Nobel Peace Prize nominations," Obama said in a statement.


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Of course, it's unlikely that this will have much pull in terms of voters, especially in Pennsylvania, but I'm still really pleased. It's about time that a high-profile superdelegate took a stand. While I think the others - Gore, Edwards, Pelosi - are likely to stay quiet till after PA, I think this at least opens the door to a superdelegate movement that the Democrats need to happen sooner rather than later.


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And Obama has found his running mate.

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Nah I think Jim Webb would be his ideal running mate.

I'm glad BR endorsed, if only cause I'm sick of the waffling by the superdelegates. Pelosi is another one who is clearly pro-Obama and should just endorse.


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I was reading about Jim Webb and he sounds like a fiery candidate. Fiery in a good way though. He supports the 2A and has strong opinions on globalization, free trade, the gap between right and poor and the war in Iraq. I also like his "deep" background. He's won an emmy and was involved in the film Rules of Engagement. He's an author too. The only thing though is that he is just a Senator. I still think the nominee is going to be looking for a governor.

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Webb has only been a senator for two years... if Obama names him, you know there will be massive amounts of ads talking about inexperience...

Richardson is a good choice because (a) he's probably the most experienced of all; (b) he's from a western state which will help; (c) he'll get more latino votes.

However, there are other good choices out there.

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but obamas the change dude; i doubt expirience will be a big factor in who he choses; how bout tim kaine?

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Webb has only been in the Senate for 2 years but he has a long resume before that including being an Secretary of the Navy under Reagan. He has a son serving in Iraq and would greatly bolster Obama's defense and security credentials. And as a former Reagan appointee, he'd mesh well with Obama's desire to get liberal republicans to crossover. Seems like a natural match to me.

I doubt Obama will pick him though. I bet he'll go for a woman or a midwesterner or both.


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Webb would be a great choice, but he will probably go for Kaine or someone from more of a swing state before Webb.


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Good article about some of Richardson's thought process: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/po ... f=politics


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Loyal, please tell me how you expect Hillary to get this nomination. Seriously, I'm anxious to see why and how you think it is possible.

As far as I can see, it is the Hillary supporters who are living in la-la land, refusing to acknowledge that their chances of winning are really low. And yet they keep acting like they are leading by some huge margin, and Obama is being ridiculous by continuing to campaign againt Her Majesty, who was ordained by the gods to be the candidate.

It's that attitude that bothers me the most about this. Seriously, I will vote for her if she wins the nomination, but the way the Obama supporters are treated by the Hillary supporters here and on other boards just amazes me -- even though there are more of us than you, somehow we must be either sexist or in the same category as the right-wing Clinton haters.

Two weeks ago the Clinton campaign was calling Richardson, begging for his endorsement. Now it's meaningless, and he's a liar and the scum of the earth for not endorsing Her Majesty, and it doesn't matter because there aren't many hispanics in Pennsylvania anyway and that's all he's good for. Is there any honor in her campaign at all? Can they not handle defeat with dignity?

It's no way to endear yourself to future voters, who may just decide that they have been insulted enough by your campaign, and may decide to stay at home if you get the nomination.

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loyalfromlondon wrote:
relax Mike, grab some chai. It's a long road to April 22nd. Breathe.

To answer your question, your guess is as good as mine. Winning PA is a good start.

Winning PA, Indiana, Puerto Rico and WV. I personally think that Clinton will win them all except for Maybe Indiana. I also think that Clinton will have a larger popular vote than Obama after those states vote an di think it wil be a tough convention. But if she loses WV or PA I htink she should drop out of the race.
Obama supporters were asking Clinton to dorp out before when she was ahead. Neither candidate is in a position to drop out now and i think it woudl be foolish for either to do so. One thing that has dogged the democrats si their inability to fight in an election and hte last thing I want to see is that in either of these candidates.

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There's no chance she'll lost PA, in fact I think she'll win it 60-40. But it's still a done deal, the only thing her staying in will achieve is to damage Obama so Hillary can run in 2012.

What I find most interesting at this point is her staff. A lot of them probably signed on not because they love Hillary or even what she's for, but because they wanted to be part of a winning team and in some cases hoped to have connections to a new White House. Some of these staff members are going to start wishing they could switch and work for Obama.


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relax Mike, grab some chai. It's a long road to April 22nd. Breathe.

To answer your question, your guess is as good as mine. Winning PA is a good start.

Winning PA, Indiana, Puerto Rico and WV. I personally think that Clinton will win them all except for Maybe Indiana. I also think that Clinton will have a larger popular vote than Obama after those states vote an di think it wil be a tough convention. But if she loses WV or PA I htink she should drop out of the race.
Obama supporters were asking Clinton to dorp out before when she was ahead. Neither candidate is in a position to drop out now and i think it woudl be foolish for either to do so. One thing that has dogged the democrats si their inability to fight in an election and hte last thing I want to see is that in either of these candidates.


Winning PA will give her some momentum. So it'll help her a little bit in Indiana and North Carolina May 6th. If she won both of those states, I think she's going to gather huge momentum, but North Carolina will be difficult despite fairly recent polls showing Obama and Clinton pretty close there. Indiana is possible though.

Evan Bayh of Indiana (former GOV, and current Senator). While he was GOV, he gave Indiana it's biggest budget surplus ever. Then when he ran for the Senate, he received the highest percent of any DEM in the states history. He's very popular in Indiana, and it'll give Hillary an advantage. You could almost argue the most popular DEM in Indiana's history really. Bill Clinton has said he would like to vote for Evan Bayh one day for President. He endorsed Hillary last year too, and an endorsment from the most popular DEM in the Indiana's history is going to give her a boost. If Clinton manages the nomination, I think he'd be the leading VP choice for her and could turn Indiana from a REP stronghold into a swing state. Indiana is a fairly large state too.

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Ouch I always hate all of my typos in my posts. I do think it is foolish for eithre candidate to drop out now. I will agree that Clinton is walking on eggshells right now but I would be dissappointed if either one were to drop out as I said. I figured Obama would win North Carolina just like I figured he would win Oregon. Clintons goals in those two states in my opinon is to keep it close in terms of popular votes and delegates. She really does need to win in PA, WV, PR, and IA though and at least one more state like KY or NC(which I doubt she will).

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Ouch I always hate all of my typos in my posts. I do think it is foolish for eithre candidate to drop out now. I will agree that Clinton is walking on eggshells right now but I would be dissappointed if either one were to drop out as I said. I figured Obama would win North Carolina just like I figured he would win Oregon. Clintons goals in those two states in my opinon is to keep it close in terms of popular votes and delegates. She really does need to win in PA, WV, PR, and IA though and at least one more state like KY or NC(which I doubt she will).



WV is defintely going for Clinton. Believe it or not, WV easily went for Bill Clinton in 92 and 96, before becoming a red state. Our Black Population is like 3% (seriously), and when Obama doesn't have the Black Support, he tends to struggle some. We rank 3rd when it comes to lowest per capita income in the nation, and dead last in median household income. And we don't have any big urban areas. The largest city barely has 50,000 people. And Robert C. Byrd (the longest serving Senator in history, also has a backgroud with the KKK and it's pretty obvious he is a racist really. But, he's extremely popular her. While I'm doubting he'll endorse Hillary (because of some disagreements with the Clinton years), I know he won't be endorsing Obama, if he does, it'll really shock me.

And I'm confident KY will as well.

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Ouch I always hate all of my typos in my posts. I do think it is foolish for eithre candidate to drop out now. I will agree that Clinton is walking on eggshells right now but I would be dissappointed if either one were to drop out as I said. I figured Obama would win North Carolina just like I figured he would win Oregon. Clintons goals in those two states in my opinon is to keep it close in terms of popular votes and delegates. She really does need to win in PA, WV, PR, and IA though and at least one more state like KY or NC(which I doubt she will).



WV is defintely going for Clinton. Believe it or not, WV easily went for Bill Clinton in 92 and 96, before becoming a red state. Our Black Population is like 3% (seriously), and when Obama doesn't have the Black Support, he tends to struggle some. We rank 3rd when it comes to lowest per capita income in the nation, and dead last in median household income. And we don't have any big urban areas. The largest city barely has 50,000 people. And Robert C. Byrd (the longest serving Senator in history, also has a backgroud with the KKK and it's pretty obvious he is a racist really. But, he's extremely popular her. While I'm doubting he'll endorse Hillary (because of some disagreements with the Clinton years), I know he won't be endorsing Obama, if he does, it'll really shock me.

And I'm confident KY will as well.


Yeah I rememre what it was like living in Morgantown WV and Wheeling just makes me depressed when I go through it. I was there not too long ago on my way to Cambridge OH. While it is a beautiful state compared to OH it is still depressing how much of the state is in poverty

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Ouch I always hate all of my typos in my posts. I do think it is foolish for eithre candidate to drop out now. I will agree that Clinton is walking on eggshells right now but I would be dissappointed if either one were to drop out as I said. I figured Obama would win North Carolina just like I figured he would win Oregon. Clintons goals in those two states in my opinon is to keep it close in terms of popular votes and delegates. She really does need to win in PA, WV, PR, and IA though and at least one more state like KY or NC(which I doubt she will).



WV is defintely going for Clinton. Believe it or not, WV easily went for Bill Clinton in 92 and 96, before becoming a red state. Our Black Population is like 3% (seriously), and when Obama doesn't have the Black Support, he tends to struggle some. We rank 3rd when it comes to lowest per capita income in the nation, and dead last in median household income. And we don't have any big urban areas. The largest city barely has 50,000 people. And Robert C. Byrd (the longest serving Senator in history, also has a backgroud with the KKK and it's pretty obvious he is a racist really. But, he's extremely popular her. While I'm doubting he'll endorse Hillary (because of some disagreements with the Clinton years), I know he won't be endorsing Obama, if he does, it'll really shock me.

And I'm confident KY will as well.


Yeah I rememre what it was like living in Morgantown WV and Wheeling just makes me depressed when I go through it. I was there not too long ago on my way to Cambridge OH. While it is a beautiful state compared to OH it is still depressing how much of the state is in poverty



Yep, and it depresses me too. I see it pretty much everyday at work. Old people, and I mean OLD people over 50, have to work at the local McDonald's to get by. And WV's minimum wage is still 5.85, and while it's a small change, raising it to 7.00 or 7.25 (whatever it is for many states) would help thousands of people out. I've seen many struggle around here, my family, while not as bad off as some, also stuggles from time to time, and I'm sure we make less than the average person/family from 3/4 of the states. When I hear rent is 1000 bucks in some states, I find that totally outrageous and it's simply impossible for the average person here to afford that when they don't even make 1000 a month. Even half of that would be a big struggle. Not to mention there are no jobs here. In my town for example, there's the fast food restaurants and Wal-Mart. That's basically it, well, there's a Rubber Factory, but that's a job many couldn't do. Especially women.

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Also, I find it slightly annoying that the college kids and better off people support Obama over Clinton. Because I know why the poorer and older people support Clinton. I see it everywhere around here, and I feel their reasons are just more on a personal level than the younger and richer crowd. When a family have to talk about how to split the cost of a loved ones death (like my grandmother late last year), and when some member of that family have problems making payments, it's highly annoying because it shouldn't be that way. My Aunt moved to Columbus in the 90's, and she offered to help more than some of the others so it wouldn't be a struggle for them but they declined despite knowing they'd have it pretty hard for a few months. Such situations and discussions shouldn't take place.

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Hillary can't win without it going to the Convention, and if it is a brokered convention McCain wins in a landslide regardless who wins in that mess. Also if that happens I think both Hillary and Obama are screwed in 2012 as the party will hate both of them. I think Edwards and Gore would be the favorites in that scenario.


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I hadn't realized this, but it's a good point.

The Obama camp continues to preach that super delegates should vote what the will of the people is. Yet, here is Richardson (and Ted Kennedy and other MA super delegates) going against the will of the people in HIS region. It doesn't make too much sense now does it?

It is getting ugly. Obama forced to take on race head on. Now Hillary stupidly caught in a blatant lie. Oy vey.

Bill Clinton just emailed me to donate to Hillary's campaign again. I guess I gotta. We have to win PA big. Otherwise, who knows what will happen.


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Sam wrote:
I hadn't realized this, but it's a good point.

The Obama camp continues to preach that super delegates should vote what the will of the people is. Yet, here is Richardson (and Ted Kennedy and other MA super delegates) going against the will of the people in HIS region. It doesn't make too much sense now does it?

It is getting ugly. Obama forced to take on race head on. Now Hillary stupidly caught in a blatant lie. Oy vey.

Bill Clinton just emailed me to donate to Hillary's campaign again. I guess I gotta. We have to win PA big. Otherwise, who knows what will happen.

A Big PA win won't be enough, IMO just face MCCain is going to be our next president. I am willing to bet money on it.


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Sam wrote:
I hadn't realized this, but it's a good point.

The Obama camp continues to preach that super delegates should vote what the will of the people is. Yet, here is Richardson (and Ted Kennedy and other MA super delegates) going against the will of the people in HIS region. It doesn't make too much sense now does it?



Since when did the "will of the people" accord with each superdelegate's home-state popular vote? The Obama camp may have brought up the argument at some point, but they certainly don't "continue to preach" that.


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Sam wrote:
I hadn't realized this, but it's a good point.

The Obama camp continues to preach that super delegates should vote what the will of the people is. Yet, here is Richardson (and Ted Kennedy and other MA super delegates) going against the will of the people in HIS region. It doesn't make too much sense now does it?



Since when did the "will of the people" accord with each superdelegate's home-state popular vote? The Obama camp may have brought up the argument at some point, but they certainly don't "continue to preach" that.


He made an arguement he'd go with funding caps, too, and he doesn't preach that anymore, either. Nor is he continueing to preach the inspiration he supposedly drew from his pastor. He's not interested in the 'will of the people' on a regional level anymore. If he was, Texas, where he got way more pledged, would have all its supers lining up for Hillary...who won by 100,000 votes. He's as convenient as the next guy about what he does, or doesn't, continue to preach.

I don't think he's worse than anyone else mind you...just the same. This is still, after all, Washington.


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