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Hillary has won nothing, but I have been of the opinion that she is far from out, and still has a decent shot at winning the nomination.

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Too bad Hillary's gonna be a shitty President.

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I don't know why everyone is hung up on the fact that Hillary can't pass Obama in numbers to cinch the nomination. Obama can't cinch it either because he's failed to win enough big states. Obama's 11 straight winning streak unfortunately doesn't carry the weight of Texas and Ohio.

Unless something drastic happens, it's going to the convention whether we like it or not.


yeah and if obama goes to the convention as the vote and delegate leader, hell get the nomination.

Clinton have some flase idea that super delegates will go AGAINST what the voters say :funny:

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yeah, Texas. The state Obama failed to win. Blame him for this mess.


well its a delegate race...so whoever gets the most actually wins the state...

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Looks like Obama will get more delegates in Texas than Hillary.

I'm sorry, I think that's called "winning."

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2. Obama will never be the VP of Hillary. She's not going to have someone on the ticket who will overshadow her and get more people attending his rallies than her.


Actually, I read in the Times that she already hinted on a double ticket today. I don't think these two would be opposed to running together. The media reminds me of the second season of Survivor (which is the last season I knew anything about). They basically tried to edit what viewers saw into some massive fight with bitches and conniving men, etc. In the end, all the people interviewed after the show was over acted surprised and said there was marginal fighting (maybe 1% of the total time on the island) and lots of reconciling after fights. The editors of Survivor just took that 1% and blew it up to make the story-arch for the season. Mark my words, I think there will be a double ticket. The only chance there wouldn't be is if Ms. Rodham-Clinton opts for Strickland instead. That's the only one option B I see.


So Obama will automatically take Clinton as his VP? Yeah right! He loses more with her on the ticket. He needs an old white guy. So does she, no matter how much fundraising, youth vote, etc. Obama brings to the table. Both of them would be best off taking an old white guy.


Relax.

You misunderstand me. I meant if Hillary wins GE ticket lead, I think it is likely she will take Obama as VP. So my above statement only applies to that. If Obama wins, he wouldn't take Hillary to begin with. Its an age thing, more than anything, and a desire to see continuity between president/vice president. He is young, and could easily take over when she steps down. If it were reversed, she would be 68, and there is no gaurantee the democratic party would have continuity in that case. So my above statement has specifically to do with what she would decide if she was president, and I think picking him as VP would be a great idea...and also, only one of two seriously viable options right now.


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Looks like Obama will get more delegates in Texas than Hillary.

I'm sorry, I think that's called "winning."


See, 100,000 more people voted for her in the primary. So that's what I call Bush's victory in 2000. Politics will be politics, both campaigns are busy spinning whatever they can make into a win right now. This race is insane. :funny:


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Bush won delegates. Obama is winning delegates.

Popular vote means nothing.

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Looks like Obama will get more delegates in Texas than Hillary.

I'm sorry, I think that's called "winning."


See, 100,000 more people voted for her in the primary. So that's what I call Bush's victory in 2000. Politics will be politics, both campaigns are busy spinning whatever they can make into a win right now. This race is insane. :funny:


Well, true. But you know, when someone wins a primary, they call it a win. When they win a caucus, they call it a win.

Texas had both. So logically, you count them both. Hillary won the primary, Obama won the caucus, and if you add them together, he got more delegates than she did. So I don't think there is any spinning involved in saying he won Texas, really.

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Yes thats quite interesting.

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Relax.

You misunderstand me. I meant if Hillary wins GE ticket lead, I think it is likely she will take Obama as VP. So my above statement only applies to that. If Obama wins, he wouldn't take Hillary to begin with. Its an age thing, more than anything, and a desire to see continuity between president/vice president. He is young, and could easily take over when she steps down. If it were reversed, she would be 68, and there is no gaurantee the democratic party would have continuity in that case. So my above statement has specifically to do with what she would decide if she was president, and I think picking him as VP would be a great idea...and also, only one of two seriously viable options right now.


Ah, gotcha. :thumbsup: I had a feeling that's what you meant but I wasn't entirely sure. I do feel that Obama and Hillary both would be best off picking an old white guy. It seems to be an area where they both struggle with the electorate. At the moment, it seems to favor Hillary because she's up against Obama, who's young. But up against an older white guy like McCain, suddenly Hillary becomes pretty vulnerable in this area. And yes, I think sexism plays a part in that no doubt about it. It's something she has to fight off, and one way to do it is getting an older white guy on the ticket with her. Granted, Obama can raise $50 million a month, which is outrageous! Hillary hasn't made any claims about public financing like Obama did, so she wouldn't be going back on her word, though I am sure McCain would still attack Obama on the issue even as a VP rather than Prez candidate.


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Hillary is a fool, i think she knows she cant win. Im guessing she knows that Obama wont select her as his Vice Prez. If she drags this race out, the Democratic Party might force Obama to select her on his ticket and she knows this.

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I think her goal is to damage Obama with attacks and then say to the super delegates "he's damaged, pick me!" And if they don't, she's hurt him enough that he'll lose in the fall and she'll try in 2012.

She's going to spend the next 5 weeks trying to convince voters in an important state up for grabs this fall that Obama is not fit to be commander in chief. I don't see how that is good for the party, when he is likely to be the nominee.


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Obama announced today that he wont be running as her vp. he says he believes hell be the delegate and vote leader and therefore should be the nominee.

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Obama announced today that he wont be running as her vp. he says he believes hell be the delegate and vote leader and therefore should be the nominee.

There's one announcement he's going to regret - - that kills his chances of finally becoming prez in 2016.

Now he's going to become the next Al Gore of the Democrats, except instead of making a documentary on climate change, he'll make one on just plain old change...


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No, Obama had to say that.

Hillary's cynical comment about offering him the VP slot (especially since she is behind in both the popular votes and delegates) is meant to say "Hey, you guys want Obama? Vote for me and you can get him as a VP! It's a win/win!"

Obama must say no, because otherwise people will vote for her hoping for a "dream ticket." If he says he might consider it, then it makes him seem secondary and subservient to her, which he isn't. (Imagine Huckabee saying "Hey, vote for me and I'll make McCain the VP!)

Instead, he has to say to people "If you want me on the ticket, the only way you will get that is to vote for me, not her." If he said anything else, it's the same as admitting defeat and giving up.

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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

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Obama announced today that he wont be running as her vp. he says he believes hell be the delegate and vote leader and therefore should be the nominee.

There's one announcement he's going to regret - - that kills his chances of finally becoming prez in 2016.

Now he's going to become the next Al Gore of the Democrats, except instead of making a documentary on climate change, he'll make one on just plain old change...


:hahaha: @ clinton supporters, always thinking everything favors you...

he said it because hillary parading around the country saying to undecided "i may have obama as my vp". now they know, if they want barack they have to vote for him n thats the only way.

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Now he's going to become the next Al Gore of the Democrats

You mean the guy everyone eventually wishes had won the election?


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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

No, more like you're afraid of powerful women.


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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

No, more like you're afraid of powerful women.


What an asshat you are.

You know, some of us support the idea that people should be judged on their own merits, and not be discriminated against because they are female, or black, or gay, or handicapped, and so on.

That means we don't treat them better because of those reasons, too.

I am not supporting Obama because he is black or because he is male but because I think he is the best candidate. Why is that so hard to accept, asshat?

And I do support Clinton, just not as much as Obama. If she gets the nomination fairly, I will be supporting her in the general election.

Your close minded asshattedness does nothing but turn potential supporters off. It's as insulting as if I said you weren't supporting Obama because you're a racist.

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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

No, more like you're afraid of powerful women.


What an asshat you are.

You know, some of us support the idea that people should be judged on their own merits, and not be discriminated against because they are female, or black, or gay, or handicapped, and so on.

That means we don't treat them better because of those reasons, too.

I am not supporting Obama because he is black or because he is male but because I think he is the best candidate. Why is that so hard to accept, asshat?

And I do support Clinton, just not as much as Obama. If she gets the nomination fairly, I will be supporting her in the general election.

Your close minded asshattedness does nothing but turn potential supporters off. It's as insulting as if I said you weren't supporting Obama because you're a racist.



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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

No, more like you're afraid of powerful women.


What an asshat you are.

You know, some of us support the idea that people should be judged on their own merits, and not be discriminated against because they are female, or black, or gay, or handicapped, and so on.

That means we don't treat them better because of those reasons, too.

I am not supporting Obama because he is black or because he is male but because I think he is the best candidate. Why is that so hard to accept, asshat?

I find it hard to accept because you're the kind of person who feels comfortable using the term "asshat" in a political debate.

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And it's all because we hate women, right Brad?

No, more like you're afraid of powerful women.


What an asshat you are.

You know, some of us support the idea that people should be judged on their own merits, and not be discriminated against because they are female, or black, or gay, or handicapped, and so on.

That means we don't treat them better because of those reasons, too.

I am not supporting Obama because he is black or because he is male but because I think he is the best candidate. Why is that so hard to accept, asshat?

And I do support Clinton, just not as much as Obama. If she gets the nomination fairly, I will be supporting her in the general election.

Your close minded asshattedness does nothing but turn potential supporters off. It's as insulting as if I said you weren't supporting Obama because you're a racist.


It's hard for me to accept that you and others feel he's the best candidate when really, he's accomplished absolutely Nada, Zilch, NOTHING that makes him deserving of being handed the Golden Key to our Kingdom and before you bring up Hillary Clinton's record, at least the woman's

A: Served on the Senate for what?? 8 years??

B: Been to over 80 Countries

C. Served on the Armed Forces Committee

D. Been 1st Lady

E. Has a better understanding of Foreign Policy based on her last debate with Obama who's lame comment to McCain about blaming Bush for the reason Al Quaida's in Iraq when they've been there for God knows how long but merely became more prominent and known after the Sept 11th attack on our soil..

In short: People are supporting Obama cause this election is turning more into an AMERICAN IDOL Type of election than it should be.. Thank Heaven for SNL in mocking the media, specifically NBC News and forcing them to finally wake up and start calling this guy out on many issues and 1 more thing: When a guy like Obama decides to walk out of a news conference after 8 questions clearly with his feathers ruffled over the questions posed to him shows me that this guy isn't ready to handle our country cause of his short fuse over the media finally posing questions to him that should've been asked all along about his record.. There have been interviews with people on the street's, specifically from Sean Hannity about what they think Obama has accomplished that's making them vote for them and not 1 of the people interviewed could come up with anything that this guy has accomplished, NOT 1..


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Mark my words, an Obama/Clinton Clinton/Obama ticket will happen. I am convinced of it now..

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Mark my words, an Obama/Clinton Clinton/Obama ticket will happen. I am convinced of it now..


Sen. Obama responded today to the Clinton's repeated suggestions of a joint "dream ticket." Said the senator at an afternoon rally: "I just want everybody to absolutely clear: I am not running for vice president. I am running to be president of the United States of America." He also addressed what some have suggested is the motive underlying the discussion; namely, that Clinton is seeking to convince voters to support her as a means to secure both Dems on a general election ticket.

"So I don't want anybody here thinking that somehow, 'Maybe I can get both.' Don't think that way. You have to make a choice in this election."

He followed up by questioning why Sen. Clinton would suggest a joint ticket while she is currently in second place in pledged delegates and popular vote:

"I won twice as many states as Sen. Clinton. I won more of the popular vote than Sen. Clinton. I have more delegates than Sen. Clinton. So I don't know how someone in second place can offer the vice presidency to someone in first place. If I was in second place I could understand but I am in first place right now."

Going farther than comments in the past, Obama offered a frank explanation: "They are trying to hoodwink you."

Obama also pointed out the tension between suggestions of a joint ticket on the one hand, and Sen. Clinton's suggestions in Texas (notably, the "3AM ad") that Obama is not ready to be commander-in-chief on the other. He referenced a May 1992 comment by-then candidate Bill Clinton, who explained the "most important criteria" for selecting a vice president would be "someone who would be a good president if, God forbid, something happened to me a week after I took office." Airing the statement, Obama then feigned ignorance:

"I don't understand. If I am not ready, why do you think I would be such a great vice president? I don't understand. You can't say he is not ready on day one, then you want him to be your vice president."

The Clinton camp advanced a response to a similar question posed to them during their morning conference call. When asked why Sen. Clinton and her husband were suggesting a joint ticket and saying that Obama had not passed the "commander-in-chief threshold", spokesman Howard Wolfson replied:

"We do not believe that Senator Obama has passed the commander-in-chief test. But there is a long way between now and Denver."...

"Senator Clinton will not choose any candidate who has not at the time of choosing passed the national security threshold. But we have a long way to go until Denver, and it's not something she's prepared to rule out at this point."


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