I've been saying it for a while now:

I think Hillary wins TX, OH, PA, and secures the nomination via brokered convention. I think she offers VP to Obama, he turns it down. I think the party has issues, black vote turns away, they lose the general election because of this mess.

I think WHOEVER gets the White House, Dem or Rep is totally fucked.

I've been saying it for a while now:

I think Hillary wins TX, OH, PA, and secures the nomination via brokered convention. I think she offers VP to Obama, he turns it down. I think the party has issues, black vote turns away, they lose the general election because of this mess.

sorry but im telling you. whoever has the popular vote will get it. if you also lead in delegates than thats even better and it looks like both will be obama.

Barack Obama’s campaign lawyer Bob Bauer crashed a conference call convened by Hillary Clinton’s campaign Tuesday evening, sparring with Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson in an exchange that lasted several minutes.

Bauer dialed into the call that was intended to update the media on alleged irregularities in Texas caucus voting and identified himself to Wolfson’s surprise.

“Nice of you to call. How are you?” said a startled Wolfson when Bauer introduced himself.

The two men then proceeded to battle over the Clinton campaign’s complaints over caucus voting in Nevada and in Texas, with Bauer directly asking the Clinton campaign to “Stop attacking the caucus process.”

Wolfson responded by challenging Bauer to work closely with the Clinton campaign to ensure there were no irregularities in the Texas caucuses.

“I would ask you to join with us this evening in ensuring that the serious problems that are ongoing as we speak in Texas are addressed,” Wolfson said, adding that they did not hold Bauer "personally responsible.”

Bauer returned to his original charge, saying that the Clinton campaign had attempted to interfere with the process in both Iowa and Nevada, adding: “How is this (complaint) any different than the series of complaints registered against every caucus that you lose?"

After several minutes, Wolfson ended the conversation, telling Bauer he looked forward to "asking our own questions on subsequent calls of yours."

Ignorance is bliss! You and Gore should get together and throw a party, invite Kerry too and ask the two of them how much the popular vote meant for them.

sorry but im telling you. whoever has the popular vote will get it. if you also lead in delegates than thats even better and it looks like both will be obama.

do you remember 1968?

ok, i lied. i am celebrating quite a bit.

A riot at the Convention that helped to hurt the party and led to a Nixon win? We can only hope (subject to McCain not being Nixon).

What point are you making?

They gave the nomination to the person with the less votes (george mcgovern) and aside form losing the election, the party was a national embarassment.

If Obama leads in all 3 of these: votes, delegates, and states- he will get the nomination. There is absolutly no way - 0% chance- they give to Hillary if he's earned more. There would be such an enormous backlash against the democratic party in general for one big reason: the person who gets the most votes did not win. And the public will either hate that or laugh at it, either way its aweful for the party.

Latino voters are up from 2004, 24 to 34% in TExas.

African American voter turnout is actually down from '04...21 to 19%

Might have made all the difference.

Really? Down from '04 primary turnout?

How is THAT possible?

Numbers is not the same thing as percentages. Clearly if one demographic is rising based on percentage of the whole, the other ones are dropping. It might not mean that less actual voters turned out, just that that number was proportionally less to the whole.

Nahh, it would be water under the bridge.

Why would Obama pass up a chance at 16 years in the white house vs Hill's 8?

Almost 35,000 Ohioans cast votes for John Edwards today.

I'm sorry but who are these people and what are they thinking?

Almost 35,000 Ohioans cast votes for John Edwards today.

I'm sorry but who are these people and what are they thinking?

Hillary was defeated after Wisconsin. Obama is going to get the nomination. It's impossible for Clinton to catch up. She'd have to get like 75% in all the remaining states she wins (Because Obama will win a few like NC)

The only question being decided is how much damage she's going to do before she concedes. The party honchos know this. I bet Pelosi, Gore and a few other leaders break for Obama within a week.

Eagle's idea of her getting it with the superdelegates is unlikely for two reasons. A lot of them don't like her, and also a lot of their own constituencies voted for Obama and they are going to want to get re-elected.

As to him taking the vp slot, he'd be a fool to. What he should do is do what she's doing: go negative. Make some ads highlighting her corporate lawyer past and her ties to lobbyists. It would damage his new politics theme a little but it would crush her.