Wait a minute, you're changing your argument now. Before, it was that we are all duped because we're not as wise as the almighty BKB. Now the reason we are wrong is because we don't agree with you on foreign policy? Geez, make up your mind.

OK, your argument is basically that experience in foreign policy is the most important thing there is, even more important than judgment, morality and leadership skills. By your argument, the most qualified person for President would have to be Dick Cheney with Donald Rumsfeld as VP -- nobody in the US has more experience in foreign policy than those two.

As for your continued reliance on a tainted news source -- well, there's no hope for you.

Actually, the true reason you (and your brethren) are wrong is in your refusal to question the media reality of Obama. But I'm sure you'll slough that off as usual...

Haven't we been willing to talk with China since the Nixon Administration? Do you mean North Korea?

Seriously, what's with this?

well this farce just raised 50 million dollars in 28 days, nearly 2 million a day.

I meant looking at them with mistrust which the previous administrations have been doing. It was one of the question raised towards Obama where he said we shouldnt look at China with mistrust but more like trade partners

this thread is amusing

I think he's made the leap from the Reverend Jim Jones to the next logical step in suicide cult leaders - the pope.

Though I must admit, I'm surprised he skipped the Archbishop of Cantobama.

You know, I really want to just ignore you, but you're like the idiot on the streetcorner yelling about Jesus wanting to send me to hell - I can't keep my eyes away. And I guess it's also because you are so fucking insulting that I really want you to suffer some sort of pain, too.

Seems sorta cultish to me.

How about you go to this dumb site and shut up for a bit and do some reading then come back and tell us that he doesn't spell out what his opinions, thoughts, and plans are OR maybe you're just to vapid to do even this before preparing your fingers to respond to this thread again.

www.barackobama.com/

Pop quiz: True or false. There will be always be miliatry American presence in Iraq according to Obama.

Loyal may be really against Obama, but at least he knows why he's against Obama. What do you have? Listening to biased third-party sources? This thread is a sham, with no credibility. There is absolutely ZERO excuse for willful ignorance. Yet you continue to come into this thread and say that he is not clear on his issues...even though his positions are spelled out plain as fucking day on his website. The link has even been given to you. All you have to do is click!

I can respect a man who makes an educated opinion. Just check loyal's thread. Beeble and I may disagree on a lot of issues, but he knows his shit. Same with Groucho and KidRock and basically every other person in the Political forum. This thread, however, is a fuckin' joke. It makes a mockery of the election because, just as you claim Obama supporters are following blindly, you are rallying against him JUST AS BLINDLY.

This thread is a joke, and so are you.

Versus Hillary's ralies where she tries to get people to chant "Yes we will" and they don't go along with it.

Translation for the BKB impaired:

"Facts!? Don't cloud my opinion with facts! If I based all my opinions on facts, I would have no opinions at all!"

I think BKB must have seen Obama next to a poster of The Dark Knight and the chip in his brain exploded.

Because, as I said, I'm happy tp agree to disagree, but the original post of your to which I responded was so completely and utterly off-the-wall fucknut crazy that I HAD to say something to appease my conscious. Vote for Hillary. I don't care. Vote for McCain, or Ron Paul, or Nader. I don't give a shit. But DON'T pretend your candidate is all high and mighty without even checking what the other stands for.



Ironically, I don't disagree with that much here. I think he's a wonderful leader and motivator, but he needs to be more upfront with his issues in his rallies.



What? loyal can suck my dick for all I care. I know I have loyal's respect (and even if I don't, I like to think I do). I don't need to attempt to earn it. If I did, there are better ways than this. I'd also like you to point me in the direction of any other ass-kissing I've done, whether it's to loyal or not. I'm really interested in this, since, to the best of my knowledge, I don't even like most of the posters on this board. Or are you going to jump in my head here too and say that I'm blindly loving certain posters, just like Obama?

This thread has gotten me more worked up than I have been in months. Probably in over a year. I tolerate a lot of shit from a lot of people. I can usually find the peace of mind to accept things, especially those that I cannot change. But the one thing that I absolutely cannot and will not stand for is WILLFULL IGNORANCE, which is what you are showing here. Say what you want, do what you want. Do NOT come in here and claim to be some absolute beacon of reason and intelligence when you can't take the time to click on a fucking link THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR YOU! And then, to top it off, you go on a hypocritical spree, spouting off shit about people's blind acceptance when you're doing the exact same thing.

Am I the only one who sees this?