huh? theres 97 delegates in virignia alone, hes getting a lotmore than 31 tomorrow...

There are some too close to call ones. Also the way the delegates are allocated, if a congressional district has 4 delegates, each will get 2 unless Obama gets over 60%(? I think) of the vote, so Clinton could receive a better proportion than the actual result shows. Also, if it does end up say 58-42, Obama would "only" get 16 more delegates in Virginia even if we go strictly by the proportion.

theres 168 up for grabs, obama should take atleast 90 of em

He will need to take 100 of them to gain a net of more than 31 on Clinton. I hope he does, but it's not a sure thing yet. The analysis from that link shows Obama should win at least 93, Clinton 62, and 13 delegates too close to call.

And that would mean Clinton would get 78, which would mean a 12 delegate net gain. So hopefully it's closer to the 31 xiayun is quoting.

OH your saying of obama wants to be ahead by 31 delaged in total-like 1,200 to 1,169....ok.

anybody have an updated delegate count?

Northern VA (Arlington, Alexandria, Fairfax, that whole area).

Ah, those crazy rich white liberals that surround DC, huh?

Haha yup

So are you solidly on board the Obama train, Libs, or will you feel a twinge of regret not voting for Hillary?

Halfway between those two.

I am seriously hoping for a Sebelius vice-presidency now. That would pave the way for a great female chief executive, and I would like to see (a good) one elected before it is too late.

You know, I'll be the same way a little bit.

My vote on March 4 will be going to Obama, undoubtedly. But I think I'll always wish that I could have voted for Hillary had circumstances been different.

It's still a daily thing for me: I dread seeing her push past Obama, yet I still really like her.

I did no such thing. Please desist from dissembling. You tried to be dismissive of the experience of being First Lady, I pointed out that Nancy was encouraged to run for office.

I never argued that all First Ladies experience were equal, merely pointing out that experience can be considered as important and valid.

In regards to your other points, you ignored the countless examples I gave you of wives of politicians serving as politicians, and that is not just an American phenomena. You ignored the Roosevelt example. Do not pretend you answered in good faith or seriously any of the points I made. I don't think using a non-existant equivalent situation, proves anything. Although, at least it kind of answers your disregard of the position, which I find absurd.

I wasn't accusing you of being a sexist, just the point you were making came across as a sexist arguement. We obviously disagree on this issue, most likely due to our different frames of reference on the issue.

You constanstly dissemble, cut and paste and leave out important facts. There is spin and there is being dishonest. I stated in another post that I wanted people to be skeptical. If you go to the link you know it is opinon and not reporting. I can't walk everybody through ever step.

I'll remind everyone to take any information no matter the source with a grain of salt.

I don't allude to things that can't be verified and then chastize candidates.

I find your obstinacy extremely frustrating. You are obviously intelligent, but your boorish behaviour has left me a bit unfeeling towards your plight. I don't understand someone voting for McCain if Clinton or Obama are the alternative. I question how liberal they actually are. Sue me, it shouldn't bother you much if I can't make a coherent arguement.

Why don't you start a thread where you logically make the case that support McCain over Clinton is the liberal thing to do. Try and leave out emotion and do it rationally. I promise to read it, maybe I can help you with some points to make a stronger case.

Where did you go to college? I went to William & Mary.

I don't know how it would help Obama much. I don't even know if she would win KS. She is just not that well known outside the state to have much impact. Although, she might help in KC a bit. Obama should be able to win MO anyways, but a little help never hurts.

That is not true. Hillary supports ending discriminaton in the military. She also endorses the Stop Aids 08 Platform, among many other issues important to the Gay community. Clinton, Obama, and McCain are all against Gay marriage. She is much more supportive of Gay rights and issues than McCain.

I couldn't find anything better but this site is pretty good.

http://outforhillaryclinton.blogspot.com/

I went to UVA. It's like VA College Central all up in this thread, heh.

I'm assuming Mike went to either URichmond or VCU.

I wasn't sure if he was referring to Richmond or VA in his there.

I came from a lower middle class family, and I went to Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond because (a) it was cheaper and (b) I could live at home (at first) and save money.

I remember visiting W&M a lot though, because I was on the debate team and we would have tournaments down there. It's a really nice school!

Obama wins Virginia, as expected.

McCain/Huckabee too close to call. Not good news for McCain, as isn't this an open primary?

Look like VA will go 60/40 in favor of Obama.

Yep.

The exit poll has him winning by 6%. See if it will hold.

Matters very little for McCain, he'll get the nomination and the party will fall into form behind him.