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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Who Will Be President?
Groucho wrote: Let's see.
Days before the election, FBI Director (and Republican) announced that there were new emails involving Hillary Clinton.
He has not seen these and has no idea if there is anything in them.
The emails are not from Clinton's server, and apparently are mostly between Clinton and her campaign staff.
Such an FBI announcement is unprecedented and prosecutors everywhere are calling it inappropriate and an obvious political move. Prosecutors never comment on pending cases, especially when they have not even seen the evidence yet.
Hillary has called for all of the emails to immediately be released so everyone can see that there is nothing incriminating or illegal in them -- just like there was nothing incriminating or illegal in all the other emails that have been released.
Meanwhile, Republicans who gleefully jump on this are happily supporting a man who has a rape trial and a fraud trial scheduled within the next few months. It's a Republican witch hunt. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. I expect this will have minimal, if any, impact. For one thing, early voting has begun and in record numbers. And at this point you're on board with sending a vote Hillary's way or you're not, let's be real.
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Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:37 pm |
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Groucho
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Libs wrote: I expect this will have minimal, if any, impact. For one thing, early voting has begun and in record numbers. And at this point you're on board with sending a vote Hillary's way or you're not, let's be real. Yeah, anyone who cares about this nonexistent "scandal" is already not voting for Hillary. It won't change anything.
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Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:39 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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It is good that it involves (tiny) Weiner, who will take some of the beat of Hillary.
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Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:57 pm |
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Jmart
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Excel wrote: It is good that it involves (tiny) Weiner, who will take some of the beat of Hillary. Why would he take heat? He's not relevant and his career is already dead.
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:06 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
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zwackerm wrote: I wonder if Hillary has any chance for a reelection. Hopefully not. zwackerm - Rooting for the country's failure since 2016! Dumbass. 
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:12 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
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Jmart wrote: Excel wrote: It is good that it involves (tiny) Weiner, who will take some of the beat of Hillary. Why would he take heat? He's not relevant and his career is already dead. Simply minded dumb people will not be channeling all their negative feelings towards hillary but to their memories of that loser
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:42 am |
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Jmart
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Excel wrote: Jmart wrote: Excel wrote: It is good that it involves (tiny) Weiner, who will take some of the beat of Hillary. Why would he take heat? He's not relevant and his career is already dead. Simply minded dumb people will not be channeling all their negative feelings towards hillary but to their memories of that loser Most of those people, at least the ones who are politically minded, are Trump supporters and will definitely be channeling all their negative feelings towards Hillary. Not that they weren't already, but nothing will go towards Weiner.
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:49 am |
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Caius
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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What if Trump did a good job? I am sure you'd still vote against him. I know I would.
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Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:33 am |
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Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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Hillary has lost her lead in Florida. Fucking moron, arrogant Democrats.
"Oh, but look - they are only down by 3 in Texas! Things are going great!"
Good lord. If Trump wins because of the sheer arrogance of her campaign, IDK what to say other than Colin Powell killed it when he said she/her people fuck up everything with hubris.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:21 am |
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Excel
Superfreak
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Groucho wrote: Excel wrote: Polls clearly swinging back in DT's favor. By less than a percentage point, according to Nate Silver. Unless Hillary supporters just stay at home, she's got this. As I said in the article linked above, if you compare states where she is ahead by 5 points or more to states where Trump is 5 points or more ahead, you'll see that she already has the 270 she needs.  And in all the states where they are closer than 5% (the ones not colored red or blue in the map above), she's ahead in of all of them except Georgia. Trump is finished. This is the map I keep coming back to. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the blue states here are all that she wins.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:23 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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That would still give her the win Excel
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:56 am |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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The early voting helps convince me that it's too hard for Trump to win now, just beating her on election day isn't enough
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:34 pm |
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Superfreak
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There is not an ounce of logic behind deploying resources to Arizona, Texas, Utah, Georgia, etc when you are tied or BEHIND in 1) much more important, and 2) more competitive, stages of Florida and Ohio.
Puzzling allocation of resources which is only explainable through Dems absurd arrogance. This is not Barack Obama.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:07 pm |
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Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Excel, no offense, but you need to leave this polling analysis to the big boys. You don't really seem to get it.
Florida is going to be close, no bones about it. But Trump is not simply "ahead" there. He is ahead in a couple of polls, and Hillary is ahead in other polls. The margins are very close between them. What will make the difference there is likely the ground game.
Hillary also doesn't "need" Florida to win. It's a must win at all costs for Trump, as are North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Both of which he is significantly behind in.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:32 pm |
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Groucho
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There will always be polls that vary from the norm, which is why you should do what Nate Silver does -- average them out, weighing them accordingly based on their prior predictive powers and then use a bunch of math I don't understand. Using that tells us that Hillary has been ahead in Florida pretty much most of this election cycle. And she currently has a 59% chance of winning the state. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... t/florida/
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:30 pm |
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Libs wrote: Excel, no offense, but you need to leave this polling analysis to the big boys. You don't really seem to get it.
Florida is going to be close, no bones about it. But Trump is not simply "ahead" there. He is ahead in a couple of polls, and Hillary is ahead in other polls. The margins are very close between them. What will make the difference there is likely the ground game.
Hillary also doesn't "need" Florida to win. It's a must win at all costs for Trump, as are North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Both of which he is significantly behind in. What? I don't care about "must wins' for Trump if he is setting himself to win them...
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Shack
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Realistically there's no reason to think the popular vote winner won't win the election after it's happened once since 1888 and cause the Bushes cheated. The national poll average has to be 5 points+ wrong for Trump to have a chance and good luck with that
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:20 am |
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Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Excel wrote: Libs wrote: Excel, no offense, but you need to leave this polling analysis to the big boys. You don't really seem to get it.
Florida is going to be close, no bones about it. But Trump is not simply "ahead" there. He is ahead in a couple of polls, and Hillary is ahead in other polls. The margins are very close between them. What will make the difference there is likely the ground game.
Hillary also doesn't "need" Florida to win. It's a must win at all costs for Trump, as are North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Both of which he is significantly behind in. What? I don't care about "must wins' for Trump if he is setting himself to win them... I just told you he's not setting himself to win them. He is behind in North Carolina and Pennsylvania. He cannot win the election without winning both of those states, even if he wins Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Arizona, Utah, etc, etc, etc. The electoral path does not add up.
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stuffp
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Excel
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Libs wrote: Excel wrote: Libs wrote: Excel, no offense, but you need to leave this polling analysis to the big boys. You don't really seem to get it.
Florida is going to be close, no bones about it. But Trump is not simply "ahead" there. He is ahead in a couple of polls, and Hillary is ahead in other polls. The margins are very close between them. What will make the difference there is likely the ground game.
Hillary also doesn't "need" Florida to win. It's a must win at all costs for Trump, as are North Carolina and Pennsylvania. Both of which he is significantly behind in. What? I don't care about "must wins' for Trump if he is setting himself to win them... I just told you he's not setting himself to win them. He is behind in North Carolina and Pennsylvania. He cannot win the election without winning both of those states, even if he wins Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Arizona, Utah, etc, etc, etc. The electoral path does not add up. He is making progress in both. Hillary can put the whole thing away by taking Florida where she did basically live this weekend. Puny crowds though...enthusiasm gap between die hard supporters is real.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Caius wrote: What if Trump did a good job? I am sure you'd still vote against him. I know I would. What? This is a stupid post. IF Trump won, and IF he did a good job, why would I not want him re-elected? Besides being a disgusting piece of human trash? Right now Hillary is qualified for the job, Trump is not. If she did a bad job, I would not vote for her again. But at least there is evidence she is capable of doing the job.
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:22 am |
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Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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There's a report surfacing that the FBI concluded Russia is trying to undermine the election but Comey thought it was too close to the election to say so. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-com ... ource.html So that's not OK to share because it's too close to the election but causing a totally unsubstantiated ruckus with the email nonsense is? OK, Comey. Makes perfect sense. Dude is not keeping his job much longer. Also, there's a new NBC/Survey Monkey poll which literally shows no difference in polling after Comey's letter: Quote: NEW—NBC|SurveyMonkey tracking poll 10/24-30
Clinton 47 Trump 41 Johnson 6 Stein 3
Pre-Comey M-F HC 47 DT 41 Post-Comey Sat/Sun HC 47 DT 41
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:18 pm |
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Chippy
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:24 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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I've accepted that Trump stands a real shot to win. He will be the most vulnerable incumbent in history barring an epic first term.
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:58 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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African American and Millennial early voting in Florida is WAY down from 2012. http://www.politico.com/states/florida/ ... lls-106931Summon the fucking busses! Where is this "ground game"? Probably in Arizona. The fucking fools running her show think Barack Obama is on the ticket. They think this is 2012 and there is serious enthusiasm for their candidate among those voter demographics. So. Fucking. Dumb. Picking Kaine over Warren or Booker is looking like a major mistake. Given all of her advantages, I would go as far as to say this is one of the worst national campaigns I can personally recall. She is doing so little with so much. She has massive cash advantages, inherited enormous infrastructure from Obama campaigns, good will with independents from Obama Presidency, had one of the greatest conventions in history and the most dominant 3 debate performance on record. But here she is, tanking in the polls yet again. Trump looks likely to win in Ohio, Florida is 50/50 at best and leaning his way, the gaps are shrinking in NC and Colorado, and Trump unquestionably has all the momentum. DH Hillary supporters should be fucking terrified right now. All of this data is NOT good. 
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