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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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 Braveheart
Braveheart Quote: Braveheart is a 1995 epic historical drama film directed by and starring Mel Gibson. The film was written for the screen and then novelized by Randall Wallace. Gibson portrays Sir William Wallace, a 13th century Scottish knight who gained recognition when he came to the forefront of the First War of Scottish Independence by opposing King Edward I of England, also known as "Longshanks" (Patrick McGoohan).
The film won five Academy Awards at the 68th Academy Awards, including the Academy Award for Best Picture and Best Director, and was nominated for an additional five.
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:39 pm |
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Atoddr
Veteran
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:07 am Posts: 3014 Location: Kansai
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A great, inspiring movie. Mel deserved his Oscar and also gives a very underrated performance. It's a classic. I pull out the DVD and watch it every six months or so. I rate it an A.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:46 am |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Everything about this movie is amazing. My #1 All-Time Movie.
A+
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Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:20 am |
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Maximus
Hot Fuss
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:46 am Posts: 8427 Location: floridaaa
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A+
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Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:00 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68341
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Braveheart - A-
One of my favourite movies. Enough said.
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:44 am |
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Heinrich Himmler
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:17 pm Posts: 2716 Location: Berlin, Germania
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fun, but too long medieval movie with great battle scenes and a lot of hollywood cheese- B
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:48 am |
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Levy
Golfaholic
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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Good, but a little bit overrated (B+)
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:23 am |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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this is a great movie!, ....but to long for me :???:
A-
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:13 pm |
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raditz147
Speed Racer
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:45 pm Posts: 100 Location: I am everywhere, yet nowhere
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Amazing movie
A
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:41 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Really good and yet, really overrated.
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:58 pm |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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bump 
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Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:38 pm |
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are-why-a-en
MISSING IN ACTION
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:42 pm Posts: 4292 Location: The Beautiful Islands of San Diego
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BUMP so we could see a review from Eagle
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:33 pm |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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The greatest epic ever. It inspired me to wear kilts and paint my face in public. Not to mention the occasional screams of FREEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM by me
You Shall not take away our freeddddddddooooom
You Shall not take away our freeddddddddooooom
You Shall not take away our freeddddddddooooom
You Shall not take away our freeddddddddooooom
9.5/10

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Sat May 07, 2005 10:46 pm |
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dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Meh. An uncreative retelling that makes politics into some simple valour and the middleclass into the ultimate traitors and backstabbers. There's one woman in this entire movie and she's pretty much offed in the first few minutes. The other one, is just there because otherwise it would feel like an outright war movie (which it would have been better as). Dialogue is epic in nature, and by that, I mean it never comes across as natural. Not even in more intimate moments. The glory of war is a bit much, and I just found this to be about as interesting as reading old American Revolution historias out of a textbook in highschool. Which is to say, not very interesting. There's something about media, any media, having to do with Revolutions or "the fight for freedom 9tm)" that fail to be insightful in the least. Always conservative, and really repetitive.
I'll give it props for "epic" production, and Gibson clearly isn't the kind of guy that cuts corners the way some other directors do. He takes his time, and the pace never really bothered me in this movie the way it has others. Gibson's strength seems to be direction, not storytelling, and his message just didn't resonate with me at all. The ending did drag a bit with the herodom and the fight to the last breathe, but not in any way more creative than your sword, kind of way.
C+/B-
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Fri May 20, 2005 12:39 am |
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Atoddr
Veteran
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:07 am Posts: 3014 Location: Kansai
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dolcevita wrote: Meh. An uncreative retelling that makes politics into some simple valour and the middleclass into the ultimate traitors and backstabbers. There's one woman in this entire movie and she's pretty much offed in the first few minutes. The other one, is just there because otherwise it would feel like an outright war movie (which it would have been better as). Dialogue is epic in nature, and by that, I mean it never comes across as natural. Not even in more intimate moments. The glory of war is a bit much, and I just found this to be about as interesting as reading old American Revolution historias out of a textbook in highschool. Which is to say, not very interesting. There's something about media, any media, having to do with Revolutions or "the fight for freedom 9tm)" that fail to be insightful in the least. Always conservative, and really repetitive.
I'll give it props for "epic" production, and Gibson clearly isn't the kind of guy that cuts corners the way some other directors do. He takes his time, and the pace never really bothered me in this movie the way it has others. Gibson's strength seems to be direction, not storytelling, and his message just didn't resonate with me at all. The ending did drag a bit with the herodom and the fight to the last breathe, but not in any way more creative than your sword, kind of way.
C+/B-
You're such a girl, dolce.....j/k
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Fri May 20, 2005 7:19 am |
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dolcevita
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Ehehehe!
I just thought it was really simple and conservative. Gibson did The Patriot too, which is why I mentioned the American Revolution. They were both pretty weak and uncreative.
I think the only thing I actually liked about Braveheart were the battle scenes, its everything else that sucked. :wink:
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Fri May 20, 2005 11:14 am |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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The reason what makes Braveheart such a masterpiece and seperates it from all the other modern epics is its use of symbolism and music. You get a sense that William Wallace is a very real person when he shows no mercy to the murderer of his wife Murion. But with that brutality he balances it out with being a real human being as when he bows down to his slain wife's parents asking them for forgiveness over his wifes death.In a sense its a guy's tearjerker movie. Its what Titanic is to women as Braveheart is to men, it makes men weep and yes theres alot of tearjerker scene like the one where Robert the Bruce betrays William Wallace. The look in William Wallace's emotionally hurt face leds Robert the Bruce to have an epithany and re-examine his belief. It really doesnt quite matter if alot of the depictions aren't based on fact since most true stories arent,its how the events are used to convey the message. The scene that sealed the deal with me that it is without a doubt my top 3 favorite of all time was the execution of William Wallace where he cries out for freedom, its very emotionally draining when combined with the musical score. It also segways into the battle of Bannockburn where Robert the Bruce pleads to the scotsman "You have bled with Wallace,.....now bled with me". Its the way Robert the Bruce delivers his line that gives you goosebumps.
I rate Braveheart higher than it was 10 years ago because no other epic has aroused any emotion the way the movie does. Not Troy,not Kingdom of Heaven and not even Gladiator
A+
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Fri May 20, 2005 1:06 pm |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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dolcevita wrote: Ehehehe!
I just thought it was really simple and conservative. Gibson did The Patriot too, which is why I mentioned the American Revolution. They were both pretty weak and uncreative.
I think the only thing I actually liked about Braveheart were the battle scenes, its everything else that sucked. :wink:
I dont think its conservative at all. You can apply the situation in politics today with almost the US being the england of that time and islamic nations as Scotsman. Middle East countries to some are seen as barbaric to the US just like how the English viewed the Scotsman at that time. Theres so many ways to interpret the movie but I see it as an underdog movie and a martyr who united the repressed people for a common cause
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Fri May 20, 2005 1:15 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: The reason what makes Braveheart such a masterpiece and seperates it from all the other modern epics is its use of symbolism and music. You get a sense that William Wallace is a very real person when he shows no mercy to the murderer of his wife Murion. But with that brutality he balances it out with being a real human being as when he bows down to his slain wife's parents asking them for forgiveness over his wifes death.In a sense its a guy's tearjerker movie. Its what Titanic is to women as Braveheart is to men, it makes men weep and yes theres alot of tearjerker scene like the one where Robert the Bruce betrays William Wallace. The look in William Wallace's emotionally hurt face leds Robert the Bruce to have an epithany and re-examine his belief. It really doesnt quite matter if alot of the depictions aren't based on fact since most true stories arent,its how the events are used to convey the message. The scene that sealed the deal with me that it is without a doubt my top 3 favorite of all time was the execution of William Wallace where he cries out for freedom, its very emotionally draining when combined with the musical score. It also segways into the battle of Bannockburn where Robert the Bruce pleads to the scotsman "You have bled with Wallace,.....now bled with me". Its the way Robert the Bruce delivers his line that gives you goosebumps.
I rate Braveheart higher than it was 10 years ago because no other epic has aroused any emotion the way the movie does. Not Troy,not Kingdom of Heaven and not even Gladiator
A+
=D>
Just your little analysis brings a tear in my eye.
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Fri May 20, 2005 1:18 pm |
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The Steeeve
Star Trek XI
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Sad Clown wrote: In a sense its a guy's tearjerker movie. Its what Titanic is to women as Braveheart is to men I very much agree with that statement. It was one of only two or three movies I've ever cried in. It was everything I could do to hold back when he yelled Freedom at his death, but then when he saw Murron in the crowd and it was the last thing he ever saw it was just too much 
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Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:10 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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One of the best films ever made, handsdown. A+
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Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:42 am |
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Amer
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:35 pm Posts: 1912 Location: Texas
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Great Film. Gibson does a great job. Even though I think it is a little long and could have been shorter, still in my top 25. A
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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There is one thing about Braveheart that really annoys me and thats the messy melding of 20th century moralism with medieval history and then attempting to pass the whole thing off as a grand gesture on freedom and the unbreakable will of men.
Everything is so patently fake and forced almost to the levels of Crash, the faux romance music whenever Gibson stares longingly at his love and the utterly absurd caricatures that pass as the English oppressors. The English king is like a stupid pantomime villain designed so blatantly to be hated while conveniently sidelining all the ancillary meat of the British Isles history. If this was dealing with 20th century events then I might forgive it but not on this occasion.
If I was to point out the most blatant hypocrisy of this movie it's the contrived romance between Gibson and the French Queen. This movie so desperately wants to play both sides, the multiplex pleasing romantic interest and the modern morality lesson rammed into middle ages history. Its fake fake fake and I hate that.
Gibson can pull off bloody mayhem like no other man I'll give him props there and the battle sequences are pretty sweet but in the end despite the pretty front he's peddling rotten fruit behind it.
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TDH
Iron Man
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Good movie, but over rated, like Gladiator. B
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Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:36 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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TDH wrote: Good movie, but over rated, like Gladiator. B
I would agree that it's overrated, but much moreso than Gladiator, which I actually don't think was. Anyway, I got a little bored with this film, but it has been a while since I've seen it, so maybe it deserves another viewing.
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