I think with every Big Brother, theres a clear division over those that like to be spoiled by the feeds, and those that don't like to be (I tend to like hearing about the feeds). And because the entire BB thread existing is all spoilers anyway, I thought we should have one BB discussion (ie non-spoilers) thread, ie the other one, and this one, a full out BB spoilers thread.

I know there's a spoiler function, but based on the last page of the other thread (21 spoiler messages already up, with 14/15 posts containing spoilers), and the fact that there will be feeds going on, and likely some people here going in between shows, I thought, why not?

Let the spoilers begin! If you do not want to be spoiled, do not read anything after this post of this thread!

Eeep! Maybe this idea isn't so popular.

I like the idea, since it makes sense to separate the spoiler and non-spoiler talk, but I think at the moment people already have their talk/conversation inserted in the official thread, so they are responding there. I think eventually it can migrate here.

PEACE, Mike.

I like the idea.

Are the feeds worth buying? It seems like they go out a lot and anything worth seeing is put on the internet for anyone to see, so I'm not sure.

I was wondering when this thread would pop up after I saw the last page full of spoiler tags in the regular thread

and I think the feeds are definitely worth it, especially last year when Howie/Janelle were fighting with all the friendship, that lasted just about all day but they had to cut it down to a couple minutes on primetime. On the downside they hiked up the price from $30 to $40 for all season this year, and they blacked out the feeds way too many times last year...one time for 24 hours+ (because of the double eviction week).

Oh and as far as the audio leak goes, I think Jase/Janelle will compromise, the question is what will that compromise be? Surely Janelle will not want to nominate a Sovereign, and if Jase is smart he'd definitely want to put one of them up. Perhaps they will just go for people they find to be mutual threats, like Alison, Nakomis, Dani, Dr. Will, etc.

I think the feeds are worth it. They only black out during competitions (except you can see the food comps, luxury comps, and endurance comps) and when there are double evictions. They have raised the price to $40, but if you enter the code "bb7early" into the code box, it's the regular price of $29.99 for the season. There's a lot that go on on the feeds that they don't show on the TV -- and it's hard to really KNOW the HGs based on what CBS shows you because they edit the HGs in whatever light they want to. You get to see who the HGs really are with the feeds. And you get to see the scheming and all that first hand.

The first major spoiler, Janelle has won the veto!

Well, she wins the first hoh, and the first veto. I enjoy Janelle, but imo she's gone within the next 3 weeks. I think people want her out first over Kaysar, Will, James, and others. She's 2/2 already, and it hasn't even been a week...

Also, it appears that Janelle is uncomfortable over Kaysar's crush on Erika...

Alison's looking like the first boot at this point, she's all but given up and the Sovs want her gone since they think she's a bigger challenge threat. The POV comp was some sort of dig through garbage challenge, and aside from HoH and nominees, the players were randomly selected (to prevent backdooring).

Jase looks to be more in with the Sov than anyone else, at least for now. James/Kaysar are annoying me, Howie & Will have a great back & forth, Booger seems almost normal but still unnecessary, Erika is up the Sov's ass and horribly dull, Marcellas is STILL bitter about BB3, Danielle is always interesting to watch, Janie's still adorable (and she seems distant from Kaysar so far), Nakomis & Diane are laying back though hanging around Ali enough to make the Sov worry, and George is always smiling.

Kaysar caught on to my idea already:

"I think the twist is that its actually a million dollars."

I mean, its ALL Stars.

Alison broke the coffee pot in the BB house.

In response:

"Alison is going home!" -James



Janelle: "Howie youcould make Diane the new Busto"



Also, on a side note, the 20 finalists all got $7,000 just for showing up.

I don't like this development:

Howie has been bashing Nakomis non-stop, and wants her out as soon as possible. He said he wanted to vomit in her face.



Also, the BB6 crew is really getting nerd herdish in the house, and overconfident based on what I've read. I'm not liking how some of them, especially Howie, have been acting.

Howie's always been that way. That's Howie. I'm not surprised.

This game is different, so we'll see what happens.

PEACE, Mike.

The BB6ers have been very arrogant in the house. Cotton will love this I'm sure, but I am beginning to HATE Janelle. All the BB6ers for that matter. They're acting like they're running the house. I got very upset when James and Janelle were talking and were saying that if Chicken George wins HoH next week, they're going to go up to him and threaten him and tell him by putting anyone from BB6 he will be fighting with the "best of the best" and he will be gone. Like, who the hell do they honestly think they are? And then Howie keeps sayign that Will "miracled" his way through BB2 and won by accident. He says it jokingly, but he says it nonstop. And they sit there and rip on everyone and just generally act like they rule the house. They don't even mingle with the other HGs much. The other night EVERYONE was sitting on the red couches in the BY and Howie Janelle and Kaysar are in the kitchen by themselves the whole night. Even Diane complained about how Janelle sticks to herself in the HoH room all the time and doesn't talk to anyone else. I'm already hoping that someone other than them wins HoH to knock them right off their high horse.

Yeah, they really do need a wake up call. IMO, Janelle, and Kaysar are gone within the next month.

Not that I disagree with you, but how do you think the BB6 players feel? They have been outcasted by the rest of the house, who see them as a huge threat because 4 of them made it into All-Stars. They can't exactly just enter in and mingle with them.

PEACE, Mike.

They're partly doing it to themselves. There was a moment yesterday where everyone else was outside, and Janelle, Howie, and Kaysar stayed back in the kitchen, and hung there instead. They also have a very strong team (I think Erika, Marcellas are with them, so 6/12 of the houseguests will be in their alliance). They haven't been outcasted at all, they seem very cliquey so far, but that's from what I've seen. They've also talked about stuff like, going to Chicken George, and telling him not to dare nominate anyone in their alliance if he wins hoh. Then there's the Nakomis bashing, which is pretty lame, as she really stays out of everyone's way, and it seems like Howie is just looking for a reason to bully other people and goes straight for the one who looks different.

They've been outcasted by ONE member. BB5 has three people in there. It's not that big of a deal. And thye already have recruited Erika and Jase into their alliance although Jase doesn't trust them and is just using them. Then they're going to sit and bitch that people want them out -- well what do you expect when you ignore everyone and stay in your little clique. Will is one of the biggest threats in that house and he still goes from group to group and talks and jokes and mingles with them. Sticking to only your cast is not going to make people like you any more and it's going to make you an even bigger target. And even if they don't want to mingle, is it necessary to say they're going to threaten Chicken George if he dares to nominate htem. There is no reason why they can't talk to other people. They're just choosing to be snots and act like they're better than other people. James planning to tell George that they're the "best of the best." No. Will is the best of the best. Danielle is the best of the best. Even Alison is the best of the best. Kaysar and Howie are not even all stars. James and Janelle, yes. But are they better than Dr. Will, Danielle, Alison in terms of how they each played their season? No. The only reaso nthat Kaysar, Janelle, Howie, and James were loved last season was because the nerd herd was despicable. With no one like that going against them this time, they're proving that they're just like Cappy in the way they bully people around. They hated how Cappy told everyone to vote and told everyone who to nominate and whatnot this year, yet they're planning to do exactly that with Chicken George if they win. Hello, pot. Meet the kettle. You're both black.

Also, can anyone explain to me, what exactly is going on with the vote this week? How will it work? They have two people nominated, say Janelle doesn't use the veto, and leaves it. They still have two people up, and two are leaving this week, so are people even voting for anything, or will Janelle's veto decision ultimately wrap up the week and have them leave the house?

Two people aren't leaving this week. One person is.

And on a sidenote, my posts earlier aren't bias at all. Janelle and Kaysar are among my top 5 fav players ever for Big Brother. But I'm just not happy with what I've been seeing so far. Howie, yes, im bias, he's annoying...

Howie right now is talking to Janelle saying Nakomis wins HoH they're going to go up to her and say if you put one of us up, one of our remaining members are taking you out.

This is what I'm talking about. Who the fuck do they seriously think they are. If I was in the game and they told me that, I would nominate them and then say in my speech, "I rather leave the house next week knowing that I got one of you out than staying and letting you try to threaten people into doing things your way."

And now Howie saying she's a freaky tattooed person. He needs to go to hell. He isn't half the player Nakomis is and I don't even like Nakomis.

Nothing here is new for me. Howie has always been like that, seriously. It was probably easier last season since we hated the "friendship".

I'm still rooting for my faves: Will, Danielle, Janelle and Kaysar, despite your comments.

PEACE, Mike.

I still like Janelle after watching the feeds, it's the others that are bugging me. James/Howie walk around like they own the place, and Howie's rant against Nakomis was a bit much, all she did was tell Booger to stop doing his Monica impression. But then again as entertaining his Busto rant was last year, it hardly made a lick of sense but we all lapped it up since the friendship was so hated. I wasn't liking Kaysar as much last year but I'm liking him more now since he's distancing himself from the Sov a bit, and I feel kinda sorry for him since the others see him as their weak link. I think he may align with Dani down the road, and perhaps Erika, he spends a lot of time with them.

Jase is officially part of the Sov, or at least that's what the Sov think. They treat him as their 5th wheel over Erika & Marcellas. He's in the best position of them all right now, no one is after him though a few (Diane, Nik) have his number.

Alislut is basically gone already, the only person who entertains the thought of keeping her is Diane but I think she realizes it's futile. The vote should be unanimous against her this week. Danielle meanwhile is falling off of everyone's radar for now, I don't even think Marcellas would go after her if he gets HoH next week, unless he decides to play with his emotions. He is still very fixated on what happened in BB3, even having a minor squabble with Dr. Will about how Dani was/wasn't robbed last night. I'm not sure where he stands though alliance-wise, he's another the Sov think is with them but he seems to playing both sides as well.

Dr.Will/Booger especially Will are rising to the top of some people's hit lists since they act like they don't care about the game, they don't want to be there and that's the same strategy Will used in BB2. Some find it insulting. Erika appears to want to Amber her way through the house but Janelle is wise to it, and doesn't want someone like her to win this year.

Chicken George is the #1 target for some of the Sov, they think he's playing the dumb card way too hard. He has no allies really but I think he'd side with the anti-BB6 folk just cause it makes the most sense. I don't see how booting him next makes any sense for the Sov, he'll never pose much of a threat. Nakomis is #1 for Howie but the others don't seem to be buying into it. Nakomis meanwhile is after James, then Janelle...Howie is actually the last of the Sov she wants gone. Diane is allied with Nakomis but wants Janelle out first. Diane also seems to have herself locked up in the red room most of the day.

I think that's everyone. Only thing else to say is the feeds haven't been that exciting so far, all the houseguests seem to do most of the day is talk about what happened on their season or who they know, etc. with some moments of interest. Even some of the houseguests have noted how dull things have been.

Janelle has NOT used the veto. Alison and Danielle are still nominated.

Considering all they love they got last year (and this year with the votes), it's clear they think America is on their side and that they have this aura of entitlement over the game. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I remember calling Janelle out last year, saying she wasn't as smart as most people thought and all of the love she was getting was mostly a product of circumstance. I don't think a lot of people realized they only liked her in a "she's an enemy of my enemies" sort of way.

I also think it's strange that they're (supposedly) viciously trash talking George, given that he's not really much of a threat. All this hypothetical thinking about him winning HOH just seems like such a waste.