What the? This made the front page. I can't tell if I should laugh or cry? Basically, I want to laugh, I really do, because a spanking tool made the front page of the globe today. That's got some rich oppotunities for sexual banter if I don't say so myself. But alas, I think I shall shed tears, since what I thought was going to be parental outrage over coming-of-age toys in the burbs actually ended up being about God, The Rod (tm), and "chastening" one's kids.






Mah, I'm pretty much with her on most accounts. 1. That kids shouldn't be beaten. 2.That if they are, a company shouldn't be selling the beating apparatuses, and 3. How the Hell did God get into the ads about child corporal punishment?

Ban? I dunno...anyone whose dumb enough to buy it gets whats coming to them when their kids grow up and probably stop talking to them. Either that or because some guy named Bullock is laughing his way to the bank at the expense of their kids backsides.

There are so many jokes here, and too little time.

So, make a funny one up yourself and pretend I said it.

That's really freaky! I'm glad I'm not a little kid anymore.

Anyone who is into spanking for punishment, not pleasure OK Ripper, should be spanked for all of their mistakes also.

i would buy one, i dont have any kids, but ill find a use ...

Uhhhh.....what was that Eagle? You'd give that guy your money? *scoots a few feet away*

@Tony - I know. I just can't decide what to go for. I'm trying to come up with a joke that will encompass the entire issue. Perhaps Bullock had a divine vision informing him to go forth and make money on people that apparently still whip their kids with belts. This sounds like something out of a bizarre episode from, well, the USA. Hey, what's more American than making a buck? Even if its on a device for beating kids? Everything about the article was so wrong.

I'm still trying to figure out why it made the front page to begin with, but I guess its placement there is actually quite a telling sign of the times.

I think one curtain user in here should think about a name change, ROD :wink:

Levy...you wouldn't believe it but I thought the same thing when i read the article. Haha. Proof i spend too much time here. I said to myself *Oh dolce...Rod's gonna either love or hate this one*

I'm going to try and turn the tide of what turned out to be some dramatically unsettling content by hoping Rod doesn't read the article, and just skims to this post. Should that be the case, would it be too far of a stretch to summarize the summary like so...

There's apparently Biblical support for Rod's existance here!

I agree that kids shouldn't be Beaten however I'm a firm believer that kids need a Spanking if all other forms of punishment have failed to correct the bad behavior. I would never use a Rod though. Now a good Leather belt ...

Really? I thought its pretty much been understood that discipline of that style isn't all that productive. I'm not for letting a kid run wild, but I think there are ways in which one can be firm without hitting or whipping a kid. Seriously, when someone's wife or girlfriend gets out of place we (or at least, we should) look down on someone domestic violence as a way of putting her in line. Why not the same with children?

Ever heard that girls that were hit growing up are more likely to date/marry someone who is violent towards them as well? Or perhaps that cutures of violence kind of just reinforce future cultures of violence? I don't know. I think hitting a kid may seem like it gets something done in the immediacy (stop crying or whatever) but takes no long term effects into account. I also the the fact that someone making a product to assist in such things, while within his rights, is just terrible.

I think the advertisements siting NT passages just goes to show us how much more desperate people are for reinfocing their own ideas by trasnposing them on a text that I was scanning last night and am pretty damn sure makes zero references to child discipline of the sort. Why does everything need to be justified by the NT in the U.S. today? Who knows? One can say something is right or wrong without having to resort to Bible thumping. There's no references to cleaning up after one's dog in the Bible. That doesn't mean a city and its people can't come to their own conclusion that its wrong to let your dog go nuts on the streets and in the neighbors yard everyday.

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And I was just about to close the WoKJ window tooo.

And then I'm like...oh look, let's go make some nasty disgusting spanking jokes. And...


A "Stop the Rod" website even??

I have no problems with parents spanking a kid if they do something wrong. I come from strict parents and am proud that they at least disciplined me when I was younger. I know when I was at a younger age at 6, I would get into fights in school and not do my homework. I think the teachers spoke about me and it was about that time that I received disciplinary actions from my parents to ease up. I know if they didnt hit me, I wouldnt of eased up at all. Im asking everyone, whats so bad about spanking a kids behind since you dont get any bruises at all or broken bones. Im not talking about serious hitting there since thats just wrong but its only temporary pain that goes away after awhile. Heck even some catholic schools use a rod to hit a kid and theres nothing wrong with it

There is a difference between smackin your kid on the butt, and switching the shit out of them with a cord, or "the rod." Personally I am against all forms of punishment of that sort...sorta seems hypocritical, but this is just disgusting.

Hotwheels tracks work just fine, trust me. I didn't get it much, because it hurt like hell. I knew to walk the line , I got good grades, have never been in trouble, and still love my mom. I think children's services need to stay out of people business, because the youth today has damn little respect, and takes everything for granted. One welt from a hit of a hotwheel track can go a long way. Hell, when I was in school, teachers were allowed to hit students on the ass with wooden paddles. Nowadays, a kid has no reason to do what he's told, because their aren't any consequences that scare them. Fear can be a powerful ally. :ph34r:

your comment on childrens services shows you know very little about thm, and what their mission actually is

Your cocky disrespectful tone proves my point about youth who aren't being raised with any manners, because they think they know everything.

Settle mav...I didnt mean it as an insult :razz: What I mean is, child protective services get a VERY bad rep and for no reason...Social work is my major, and trust me...its not like they come take your kids for spanking, THey are out there protecting children who are getting the living shit beat out of them , or sexually molested by their shithole father.

And by the way...I was "spanked" if thats what you want to call it, alot when I was younger :wink:

No, don't get me wrong, I know they have to exist, and they serve a purpose, but they also have got it to the point where parents are afraid to discipline their children, because they will get in trouble for it. This happens way too often. They've allowed children to walk all over teachers, by taking away a teacher's discipline powers. A crack on the ass isn't going to kill a kid, but it will make him think twice before doing something again. That's no longer an option, because children's services thinks that babying an unruly child is a better solution than stinging his ass a little.

NO...mav...OK, what do you mean by "babying" I think your wrong on this one mav, it's not like child services is going to come take somones children away because they were spanked on the ass...There may be one or two stories like that, but generally it never happens. School teachers have no right to physically dicipline a child...that is not their right, but I don't see how inflicting physical harm on a child in school who is so "unruly" will really help.

I know two different people who were reported to children's services for disciplining their children, and they literally crawled up their asses, and put a fear in them about ever hitting their kids again. Two different cases, the same result, and I doubt this is just a big coincidence.

As far as school teachers having the right, that should be up to the parent to decide, not some service organization. Why should they have rights to decide that, where the parents and teachers don't. That's just another example of them having too much power, and the result is once again, one that discourages the hitting of a child. Even you called it "physical harm" , which is blowing it way out of proportion. It sounds like you are being trained to think exactly like those children's services workers.

Have you investigated Children service workers? Met any? Gone to their locations? Done any research on them at all? It really does not sound like it, and that is understandable because most people don't. But there is no sense in arguing something, you know little about(I dont mean that in a mean way)


NOw....onto the punishment in school. You think it should be up to the parents? Hmmm well what if the parents abuse the children themselves? Are they the best to determine this, and besides what are you going to do sign a letter that says the teacher is allowed to...."chide" the kid if he/she gets out of hand?

Dude, I just told you that I know of two cases. Two people who I know very well, and who told me everything they were put through. That's about as good of as investigation as I need to do. You will understand when you get older (and I don't mean that in a bad way) that it's YOU who had the learning to do. It's understandable, because a lot of young people don't realize how much they actually didn't realize until the years of experience add up.

I think it should be up to the teachers. There wasn't crime in the schools like today when I went to school. Teachers have no power anymore. They should. How many cases did you ever hear of, where a teacher physically harmed a kid? It wasn't an issue in all those years, yet children's services stuck their big noses in anyway.

I'd love to continue this conversation, but I have to go, and I'm not going to open your eyes anyway. ](*,)

^^Shall we continue over PM? or at a later tim in this thread?

Yes! You found the thread? =D>

Although I am not supposed to talk to child beaters :wink:

I come from a very strict family but if theres one thing my dad laid off from, it was ever touching his kids in any violent way. He never believed in it and according to me, for good reason.

I see both sides of the argument on this though .... spanking will indeed produce results ... but fear is an ally I'd rather use against those I care little for, to stop them from doing things i'd rather not see done at any cost. My own kids ... unless they fall into that category as mentioned above, are old and mature (hence, no longer kids) ... I hope to never resort to doing it .. cause I don't believe in it.