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Post Re: Transformers (INTL.) - $1.2m OD in Germany
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I knew you were all shooting too high when it comes to Japan. $80m, even $100m? Yeah, right... :(

What total can we expect with that opening? What do the experts say, $35m?


Maybe it will pull a Charlie and the Chocolate factory and do same OR more on its second weekend than it did opening weekend in japan.

MAX 40 million with good WOM
MIN 20 million with bad WOM


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Shockingly poor opening(was it cause of weather??)...but Japan is known for legs...so if it have great wom it can finish around 45-50m$....


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I think this proves my theory in Japan. Potter was down and Transformers has a weak opening. Japan's box office is just struggling right now.


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^^
Agree with you.


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I think this proves my theory in Japan. Potter was down and Transformers has a weak opening. Japan's box office is just struggling right now.



Yeah, unfortunate really, but Potter had a $15m opening with previews.........Transformers couldn't even muster much more than $5m...lameo....

I hate that market now :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

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Is the yen weaker this year than past summers? Maybe it partially has to do with the exchange rate? :unsure:

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JAPAN - Opening Weekend

Awful start. It's didn't even beat Pearl Habor or Armageddon, nor could it outopen Die Hard 4.

The only bright note is that it outopened King Kong, that's not saying much though.

Spiderman 3 - $26,594,091 (Â¥3.13bn - 6-Day - 822 TC) or $29.7m week
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $18,678,847 (¥2.3bn 3-Day or $16,952,890 2-Day incl. $9.5m/ ¥1.2bn p/v - 951 TC)
The Matrix: Reloaded - $18,677,181 (Â¥2.22bn incl. $7.5m p/v - 631 TC)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $15,936,091 (3-Day or $12,093,262 2-Day - 883 TC) War Of The Worlds - $15,116,883 (¥1,644,111,600/ 1,306,314 adms. 5-Day - 765 TC)
The Matrix: Revolutions - $14,882,041 (5-Day - 638 TC/900p)
Mission Impossible 3 - $12,412,091 (or $6,322,846 without p/v - 807 TC)
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $12,359,141 (incl. p/v or $9.5m without - 550 TC)
The Da Vinci Code - $11,301,981 (863 TC) or $19.3m week
Artificial Intelligence - $11,261,483 (or $8,553,416 without p/v - 1,037,879 adms. - $16.07m/2bil Yen 5-Days - 524 TC)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $10.8m (284 TC) or $15.3m week
Spiderman 2 - $10,045,607 (696 TC) or $9,965,335 (incl. p/v or $7,516,538 2-Day - 700 TC)
The Day After Tomorrow - $10,002,367 (incl. $1.7m p/v - 631 TC) or $9,424,476 Actuals
Independence Day - $9m+
Armageddon - $7.3m (Â¥889,500,000 or $11.1m 5-Days - 263 TC)
Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard - $7,243,548 (or $4,898,157 3-Day - 741 TC)
Pearl Harbor - $7,156,452 (Â¥884,600,000 incl. p/v - 424 TC) or $10.8m 5-Days
I, Robot - $6,641,924 (or $5.6m without p/v - 592 TC)
Transformers - $5,299,278 (616 TC)
Ratatouille - $4,124,359 (553 TC)
300 - $3,413,369 (incl. $672,774 p/v - 452 TC)
Shrek 3 - $2,952,556 (543 TC)
King Kong - $2,597,126 (or $2,305,675 without p/v - 708 TC) or $4,133,923 week
X-Men 3: The Last Stand - $2,366,099 (565 TC)

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Is the yen weaker this year than past summers? Maybe it partially has to do with the exchange rate? :unsure:


Even with the weaker yen and such.....this one looked like a $10m+ opener.

Everyone's being saying how bad the market is....but that didn't stop Spiderman 3 from grossing $50m, Pirates 3 from grossing $90m and Harry Potter, even though it looks weak, is a surefire contender for $80m.

There goes its chances of hitting $400m overseas...terrible end to what is a marvellous run overseas...

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JAPAN - Opening Weekend

Awful start. It's didn't even beat Pearl Habor or Armageddon, nor could it outopen Die Hard 4.

The only bright note is that it outopened King Kong, that's not saying much though.

Spiderman 3 - $26,594,091 (Â¥3.13bn - 6-Day - 822 TC) or $29.7m week
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $18,678,847 (¥2.3bn 3-Day or $16,952,890 2-Day incl. $9.5m/ ¥1.2bn p/v - 951 TC)
The Matrix: Reloaded - $18,677,181 (Â¥2.22bn incl. $7.5m p/v - 631 TC)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $15,936,091 (3-Day or $12,093,262 2-Day - 883 TC) War Of The Worlds - $15,116,883 (¥1,644,111,600/ 1,306,314 adms. 5-Day - 765 TC)
The Matrix: Revolutions - $14,882,041 (5-Day - 638 TC/900p)
Mission Impossible 3 - $12,412,091 (or $6,322,846 without p/v - 807 TC)
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $12,359,141 (incl. p/v or $9.5m without - 550 TC)
The Da Vinci Code - $11,301,981 (863 TC) or $19.3m week
Artificial Intelligence - $11,261,483 (or $8,553,416 without p/v - 1,037,879 adms. - $16.07m/2bil Yen 5-Days - 524 TC)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $10.8m (284 TC) or $15.3m week
Spiderman 2 - $10,045,607 (696 TC) or $9,965,335 (incl. p/v or $7,516,538 2-Day - 700 TC)
The Day After Tomorrow - $10,002,367 (incl. $1.7m p/v - 631 TC) or $9,424,476 Actuals
Independence Day - $9m+
Armageddon - $7.3m (Â¥889,500,000 or $11.1m 5-Days - 263 TC)
Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard - $7,243,548 (or $4,898,157 3-Day - 741 TC)
Pearl Harbor - $7,156,452 (Â¥884,600,000 incl. p/v - 424 TC) or $10.8m 5-Days
I, Robot - $6,641,924 (or $5.6m without p/v - 592 TC)
Transformers - $5,299,278 (616 TC)
Ratatouille - $4,124,359 (553 TC)
300 - $3,413,369 (incl. $672,774 p/v - 452 TC)
Shrek 3 - $2,952,556 (543 TC)
King Kong - $2,597,126 (or $2,305,675 without p/v - 708 TC) or $4,133,923 week
X-Men 3: The Last Stand - $2,366,099 (565 TC)



YIKES!!! Below DH4 is embarassing.
DH4 got 7+ million from 5 days and went on to do only approx $30 million!!!


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Archangel wrote:
JMorphin wrote:
Is the yen weaker this year than past summers? Maybe it partially has to do with the exchange rate? :unsure:


Even with the weaker yen and such.....this one looked like a $10m+ opener.

Everyone's being saying how bad the market is....but that didn't stop Spiderman 3 from grossing $50m, Pirates 3 from grossing $90m and Harry Potter, even though it looks weak, is a surefire contender for $80m.

There goes its chances of hitting $400m overseas...terrible end to what is a marvellous run overseas...


Ya i am looking at some of the european boxoffice and it doesn't look good at all. I think it chances of doing 50 million in UK are not looking good becasue Bourne Ultimatum will kill it.

It has done $29+ million so far while simpsons already did $49+ million.

Transformers did impressive in asia only. I mean its highest grossing markets be south korea, china, taiwan and australia.


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Looks like a moderate success overseas...great in some areas and a flop in others.
Don't think there's any way for it to get to $700m WW now.


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Superhero movies are usually strong in Asia and relatively weak in Europe, and Transformers will be no exception. Japan isn't a surprise either, that market is just sick of big monsters (apes or robots, it doesn't matter) destroying a town.

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Transformers remained No. 1 in China last week, but down about 50%.

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JAPAN - Opening Weekend

Awful start. It's didn't even beat Pearl Habor or Armageddon, nor could it outopen Die Hard 4.

The only bright note is that it outopened King Kong, that's not saying much though.

Spiderman 3 - $26,594,091 (Â¥3.13bn - 6-Day - 822 TC) or $29.7m week
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $18,678,847 (¥2.3bn 3-Day or $16,952,890 2-Day incl. $9.5m/ ¥1.2bn p/v - 951 TC)
The Matrix: Reloaded - $18,677,181 (Â¥2.22bn incl. $7.5m p/v - 631 TC)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $15,936,091 (3-Day or $12,093,262 2-Day - 883 TC) War Of The Worlds - $15,116,883 (¥1,644,111,600/ 1,306,314 adms. 5-Day - 765 TC)
The Matrix: Revolutions - $14,882,041 (5-Day - 638 TC/900p)
Mission Impossible 3 - $12,412,091 (or $6,322,846 without p/v - 807 TC)
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $12,359,141 (incl. p/v or $9.5m without - 550 TC)
The Da Vinci Code - $11,301,981 (863 TC) or $19.3m week
Artificial Intelligence - $11,261,483 (or $8,553,416 without p/v - 1,037,879 adms. - $16.07m/2bil Yen 5-Days - 524 TC)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $10.8m (284 TC) or $15.3m week
Spiderman 2 - $10,045,607 (696 TC) or $9,965,335 (incl. p/v or $7,516,538 2-Day - 700 TC)
The Day After Tomorrow - $10,002,367 (incl. $1.7m p/v - 631 TC) or $9,424,476 Actuals
Independence Day - $9m+
Armageddon - $7.3m (Â¥889,500,000 or $11.1m 5-Days - 263 TC)
Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard - $7,243,548 (or $4,898,157 3-Day - 741 TC)
Pearl Harbor - $7,156,452 (Â¥884,600,000 incl. p/v - 424 TC) or $10.8m 5-Days
I, Robot - $6,641,924 (or $5.6m without p/v - 592 TC)
Transformers - $5,299,278 (616 TC)
Ratatouille - $4,124,359 (553 TC)
300 - $3,413,369 (incl. $672,774 p/v - 452 TC)
Shrek 3 - $2,952,556 (543 TC)
King Kong - $2,597,126 (or $2,305,675 without p/v - 708 TC) or $4,133,923 week
X-Men 3: The Last Stand - $2,366,099 (565 TC)



YIKES!!! Below DH4 is embarassing.
DH4 got 7+ million from 5 days and went on to do only approx $30 million!!!


It's not fair to compare Transformers' first 2 days with DH4's first 3 days though. :roll:


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The actual number is 25m RMB ($3.3m), down 48%, for a $34.3m total. COTGF was at $33.8m after week 4, but it was coming out of a $5.1m week with the holiday boost. Depending on how hard a hit Transformers takes from HP5, it's going to be close between the two in dollars. COTGF will still be ahead in RMB regardless since the exchange rate has moved from 7.8 to 7.5 in the last six months.

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The actual number is 25m RMB ($3.3m), down 48%, for a $34.3m total. COTGF was at $33.8m after week 4, but it was coming out of a $5.1m week with the holiday boost. Depending on how hard a hit Transformers takes from HP5, it's going to be close between the two in dollars. COTGF will still be ahead in RMB regardless since the exchange rate has moved from 7.8 to 7.5 in the last six months.


Though it's done extremely well to come close to COTGF....biggest mvoie of the year no doubt

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The actual number is 25m RMB ($3.3m), down 48%, for a $34.3m total. COTGF was at $33.8m after week 4, but it was coming out of a $5.1m week with the holiday boost. Depending on how hard a hit Transformers takes from HP5, it's going to be close between the two in dollars. COTGF will still be ahead in RMB regardless since the exchange rate has moved from 7.8 to 7.5 in the last six months.


Though it's done extremely well to come close to COTGF....biggest mvoie of the year no doubt


Definitely, and hard to see any foreign film come close to it in some time. It just hit the nostalgia feeling perfectly, as it was one of the first imported toys we (born in late 70s/early 80s) played, and this generation is the one that has both the time and money right now.

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xiayun wrote:
The actual number is 25m RMB ($3.3m), down 48%, for a $34.3m total. COTGF was at $33.8m after week 4, but it was coming out of a $5.1m week with the holiday boost. Depending on how hard a hit Transformers takes from HP5, it's going to be close between the two in dollars. COTGF will still be ahead in RMB regardless since the exchange rate has moved from 7.8 to 7.5 in the last six months.


Though it's done extremely well to come close to COTGF....biggest mvoie of the year no doubt


Definitely, and hard to see any foreign film come close to it in some time. It just hit the nostalgia feeling perfectly, as it was one of the first imported toys we (born in late 70s/early 80s) played, and this generation is the one that has both the time and money right now.


hahah kinda reminds me of the Netherlands when u say that....a country where teen movies do really well.....White Chicks, Mean Girls, American Pie....etc. :lol:

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JAPAN - Weekend 2

Say goodbye to $50m. Looks to end around $25-30m. Lame.

The Matrix: Reloaded - $39,843,950 ($9,364,162, -50%)
Spiderman 3 - $36,297,112 ($4,938,209, -51%)
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $36,189,637 ($7,243,642, -57%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $36,147,242 ($9,614,786, -20.5%)
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $31,939,732 ($5,656,288, -66.6%)
The Da Vinci Code - $31,768,272 ($9,041,674, -20%)
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $29,007,954 ($8,900,467, -28%)
The Matrix: Revolutions - $27,835,393 ($5,690,225, -62%)
Mission Impossible 2 - $27.2m (-29%)
War Of The Worlds - $26,174,549 ($8,879,977, -41%)
Artificial Intelligence - $25,118,842 ($6,542,602/ 545,444 adms., -24%)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $23m+ (9-Days or $16.5m 6-Days or $29.2m 2-weeks)
Mission Impossible 3 - $21,362,402 ($3,656,450, -41%)
The Day After Tomorrow - $19,758,913 ($5,172,285, -48%)
The Matrix - $19.6m (-40% or $21.3m 12-Days)
Spiderman 2 - $18,728,085 ($5,169,167, -49%) or $20,666,857 ($4,559,981, -39%) Actuals
Armageddon - $18m+ ($4.3m, -26%)
Pearl Harbor - $17,455,660 ($3,744,811/463,504,450 Yen, -48%)
Deep Impact - $17.2m (16-Days or $18.5m 19-Days)
I, Robot - $15,347,428 ($3,148,907, -53%)
Jurassic Park 3 - $15,193,492 ($4,013,508, -27%)
Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard - $14,619,439 ($3,258,726, -33.5%)
Transformers - $13,472,074 ($3,363,405, -36.5%)
Minority Report - $13,235,089 ($2,982,536/360,697,600 Yen, -53%)
Night At The Museum - $12,433,706 ($2,995,672, -41.3%)
Mr. And Mrs. Smith - $12,125,985 ($3,299,454, -29%)
Ratatouille - $10,769,784 ($2,215,140, -46.3%)

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German total after 12 days is 1,081,940 admissions. Definetely won't make it to the 2m tix mark, probably somewhere around 1.6m...

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Transformers remained No. 1 in China last week, but down about 50%.


damnit.

What is the total in japan because the weekday numbers in japan are much stronger for all movies.


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JAPAN - Weekend 2

Say goodbye to $50m. Looks to end around $25-30m. Lame.

The Matrix: Reloaded - $39,843,950 ($9,364,162, -50%)
Spiderman 3 - $36,297,112 ($4,938,209, -51%)
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $36,189,637 ($7,243,642, -57%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $36,147,242 ($9,614,786, -20.5%)
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $31,939,732 ($5,656,288, -66.6%)
The Da Vinci Code - $31,768,272 ($9,041,674, -20%)
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $29,007,954 ($8,900,467, -28%)
The Matrix: Revolutions - $27,835,393 ($5,690,225, -62%)
Mission Impossible 2 - $27.2m (-29%)
War Of The Worlds - $26,174,549 ($8,879,977, -41%)
Artificial Intelligence - $25,118,842 ($6,542,602/ 545,444 adms., -24%)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $23m+ (9-Days or $16.5m 6-Days or $29.2m 2-weeks)
Mission Impossible 3 - $21,362,402 ($3,656,450, -41%)
The Day After Tomorrow - $19,758,913 ($5,172,285, -48%)
The Matrix - $19.6m (-40% or $21.3m 12-Days)
Spiderman 2 - $18,728,085 ($5,169,167, -49%) or $20,666,857 ($4,559,981, -39%) Actuals
Armageddon - $18m+ ($4.3m, -26%)
Pearl Harbor - $17,455,660 ($3,744,811/463,504,450 Yen, -48%)
Deep Impact - $17.2m (16-Days or $18.5m 19-Days)
I, Robot - $15,347,428 ($3,148,907, -53%)
Jurassic Park 3 - $15,193,492 ($4,013,508, -27%)
Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard - $14,619,439 ($3,258,726, -33.5%)
Transformers - $13,472,074 ($3,363,405, -36.5%)
Minority Report - $13,235,089 ($2,982,536/360,697,600 Yen, -53%)
Night At The Museum - $12,433,706 ($2,995,672, -41.3%)
Mr. And Mrs. Smith - $12,125,985 ($3,299,454, -29%)
Ratatouille - $10,769,784 ($2,215,140, -46.3%)



Shit. That is worse that I robot total. Hell even NATM will be ahead of it.

I think when u make a movie from a japanese cartoon and put too much american shit then this is what happens.

Damn you MB for putting american soldiers and pentagon in TF. Remove all that crap and i bet it would have cracked $50 million in japan.


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Down 60%, so the month-long impressive run is nearing the end.

EDIT: officially, 371,024 admissions, 10.5m RMB for the week, 270.50m RMB total.

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Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:11 pm
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Post Re: Transformers (INTL.)
Par's "Transformers" added another $11.8 million at 4,750, led by its third Japanese frame of $2.5 million. Michael Bay's actioner, which has far exceeded studio forecasts overseas, has cumed $354 million outside the U.S.

Without IMAX.....Looks like a $380m finish overseas and another $308m Domestic for a total of $688m.....huge but Japan dissapointed badly....

Oh well...with IMAX release it should make it to $700m????we hope...

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