The Die Hard trilogy is much better and more loved than the matrix trilogy.

Maybe so... now I have to see those movies again.

I do think The Matrix will be looked back on as setting somewhat of a standard for trilogies (and sci-fi films, of course), but I think a lot of that will be based on the hype the films generated, not the standards they set cinematically. The first film was big, as was the second, but Revolutions landed with a resounding thud (and what a disgustingly disappointing thud it was) that, in my opinion, hindered the trilogy from becoming anything more than just a flasy spectacle.

The Matrix is hailed as this orgianl thing, the idea of The Matrix, jacking in, etc all existed before the movie. Heck a women just won a case against the Bros and WB that they stole some fo her stuff that she submitted to them in contest and used in the first film.

All the philosphical ideas in the film are thigns you woud discuss if you took philosphy in college.

Orginal and The Matrix just don't go together.

You shoudl read the book, its orginal publishing dates was in teh 80's, it has been around for a very long time.

As fior the best trilogy of all time, i recently rewatched the sequels and the effects already look bad. You can pick them out easily, it looks like a video game not a movie. The last two were not very good,a nd when you can pick out efffects your movie looks dated. I stillwa tch T-2 and the effects look awesome. So no, itsnot the best trilogy ever, its not even in the top 10 of trilogies.

I still enjoy the first movie though.

No, it's the worst trilogy ever because they screwed it up with revolutions and just destroyed it with the last one

Quite simply -- not Matrix. Reloaded and Revolutions are simply too weak to support the claim. When 70% of your trilogy is looked upon as a disappointment, you're not going down in the history books as "the best." For this generation, it's generally The Lord of the Rings. The three films are loved by a majority of people, as evidenced by the increasing box office from one film to another.

Star Wars isn't a trilogy. The Godfather, maybe, but Part III kind of weighs the whole thing down. Personally, I'm partial to Back to the Future, but it still doesn't compare to Peter Jackson's trilogy.

Ehem, Lord of the Rings is the best trilogy...

The End

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My list of best trilogies.
1.LOTR
2.Indiana Jones
3.Evil Dead
4.Star Wars OT
5.Back To The Future
6.Die Hard

Not with such an over-rated finale it isn't. And the middle film is hardly worth watching except to allow one to not miss anything in between the first and third films.

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:worthy: to Lord of the Rings

I still want to know why people are listing the Star Wars OT. If we're allowed to pick and choose, I kind of like the Halloween, Halloween II, Halloween H20 trilogy.

Huh? Too easy to be copied? What does that have to do with anything?

Is the Matrix original? Sure. That doesn't make it the best. "Monkeybone" was original too.

The Godfather trilogy, the original Star Wars trilogy, and the Lord of the Rings trilogy will still be around long after people have lost interest in the Matrix...

Wait, is "Monkeybone Reloaded" on the horizon?

Do you sincerely believe the Matrix series will fade into obscurity over time?

Without question the Matrix movies made a big impression on the current generation of youth and young adults. It also made a lasting impression on the film world, in terms of groundbreaking effects and westernized kung fu.

I don't argue that there was a small chunk of people that were disappointed with one or both of the sequels (according to imdb.com approx 70% of people rate MRel a 7 out of 10 or more, and approx. 60% rate MRev a 7 or higher). But, I have trouble believing that a movie series that raked in over 1.5 billion worldwide, won 4 Oscars, and left such an impression with an entire generation will fall into oblivion or be forgotten anytime soon.

If history teaches us anything, movies like this live a long time and as this generation gets older they will associate it with fond memories and continue to view it. And, thus it'll be passed down to the next generation.

I'm not arguing which is better between LOTR, Godfather, or Matrix - just pointing out that movies like the Matrix don't fade away with time. Hell, it's been almost two years since the Matrix Reloaded came out and it still frequently comes up in topics here.

I think this is a sign you might be getting too old, Mike. When you see the new fangled thing the kids like and then stand on your porch, shake your fist and scream "it'll never last! It'll die just like Rock N Roll, Elvis, and Rap music!!!". :wink:

Maxtix is no where near the best.

Star Trek II - IV = A
Star Trek VII-X = A-
Matrix = B-
SW OT = A
SW PT = B-
LOTR = B-

Hell no

Godfather ( Even though #3 is weak, it's better then Reloaded and Revolution put together )
Star Wars ( ep 4-6 )
LOTR
Indiana Jones
Terminator

All those are much better then Matrix.

My favorite trilogies by average grade:

1. Lord of the Rings - 96.9%
2. Original Star Wars - 93.8%
3. Indiana Jones - 91.2%
4. Jurassic Park - 90.3%
5. Harry Potter - 90.0%
6. Back to the Future - 88.8%
7. The Mummy - 87.4% (Scorpion King counted)
8. Matrix Trilogy - 86.7%
9. Spy Kids - 75.8%

Yeah, in the same way there aren't that many Star Trek fanboys any more. Oh sure, people are still buying the old 60s TV show on DVD, but it's not like there is anything like the fan base that once had. The new films and TV shows can't even get an audience.

I never said the films would fade away into obscurity anyway. I said people would lose interest. There will always be people who will like them, but in 100 years, you're not going to see them on lists of great films like you will the other trilogies I mentioned.

All I can say is that you have a warped definition of "fading away" by comparing it to Star Trek, a TV show that is almost 40 years old, spawned several movies and TV shows that are still being cranked out. Sure, Star Trek went to the well one too many times and after 40 years it's popularity is slowing down, but geez...what do you want? I'd also put good money that someday down the road Star Trek will have a resurgence - perhaps a remake of the original movie, or something like that.

Anyhow, I've never been a fan of Star Trek, but I certainly hope you're right and the Matrix will have staying power like that! And, I hate to break the news to you, but 40 years from now I doubt anybody will be wetting their pants anymore over LOTR either.

Without even reading anyones reply to this, I will simply state that "No", The Matrix Trilogy is NOT the best trilogy ever and doesn't even come close to the ballpark, textbook definition and serving of the phrase "Best Trilogy Ever"... The Matrix, the original Matrix, was a very well done, stand alone movie that did not require 2 other movies to explain it.. Some movies are not meant to be beaten to death and made into trilogies and the Matrix was one of them.. The Wachowski Bros will tell you differently however and imply that this was the way it was meant to be all along, but when reality sets in and the dust settles, the other 2 movies were made because the 1st Matrix became a Cult hit on video.. As a matter of fact, the 1st Matrix did better on video than it did in theatres when it first came out.. As a result of it's Cult success, the Wachowski Bros put both there heads together to create 1 Brain and came up with the idea for the other 2 piss poor sequels that generated more Hype and didn't live up to it than anyother sequel I could remember.. It was quite laughable and so unnecessary to.. Chalk it up as the 1st Matrix was Brillaint, The Matrix Rehashed, er Reloaded was exactly that: A complete Rehash of the 1st film and the Matrix Revolutions = Now the Best Trilogy when you get right down to it, will never be solved and a mutual agreement will never be reached by the fanbase, especially when it involves both the LOTR Trilogy and YES, as much as you hate it or like it, the SW Prequel Trilogy... Myself?? I still maintain the Old Star Wars Trilogy is what started it all and for a name like Star Wars that after 30 Years since 1976 is still making the $$$ it has been is an unprecedented feet unto itself, especially as divided as the fanbase is over it... A set of movies that can generate 430 Million dollars domestically and 300 Million respectfully, says something about a franchise that can do that for as old as it is.. With that having been said: SW Wins it hands down and 1 day, 30 Years from now, if anyone is so much as breathing the name LOTR or even cares like they do about SW?? Then YES, LOTR will be on the same Plateau as the SW Name... Let the Flame War being folks.. =D>

Matrix did a not too shabby $170 million in the theaters, especially considering it was an R rated movie. I'd hardly call it a cult film that found it's audience on home video. Most movies do better on DVD than in the theater these days. Hell, even LOTR:TTT sold more DVDs than it made in the theater, same goes for Lion King and Finding Nemo. If you sell 20 million DVDs at $20 a pop, that rakes in $400 million.

As for your opinion on the sequels, it's just that - your opinion. Personally, I found a lot of meat in the sequels, and was fascinated by them. Listening to the philosophers commentary on the Ultimate disc only made me like the movies even more and gave me lots more to ponder.

Yeah, I dont think a movie that makes almost 200mil domestic can be considered a cult film, it did extremely well on dvd, because it had a huge fanbase and was very popular.

But that cult group abandoned the series. You can't be considered "the best trilogy ever" in terms of public concience when your third film makes less than half as much money as the second. By comparison, the Terminator franchise, which was dormant for over a decade, managed a more successful third installment than the "more popular" Matrix series.

From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball

oh crap, thats not a trilogy :-$

All the trilogies that are listed will be remembered, but I think it will be Lord of the Rings in th end. What if they stop after the 3rd Spider-Man movie, you may have another top trilogy.

The Matrix may be remembered years from now, but it will not be anywhere near where Lord of the Rings is (and this isn't personal preference guys, I even loved Revolutions! :razz: ). But realistically, all the high schoolers and the next generation I know would have the Matrix trilogy be the first thing that comes to there head when you saw "sequels that didn't live up." It may be remembered in the ways Back to the Future was, but that's it.