For those of you who're interested: Here's a comparison of how the 5 potter flicks compare ticket wise so far in Germany:
http://www.insidekino.com/Y/YDuellHarry ... UTSCHLAND_

The asterisk (*) means extra day (Wednesday opening instead of Thursday)

Please, don't try to be more annoying than you are. I'm tracking numbers for Russian boxoffice long time before than kinopoisk or kinobusiness went on-line though unfortunately some of my old archives got lost with a system crash two years ago. For the first time grosses from Ukraine got separated from CIS for some movies in 2004 but available numbers from 2004 and 2005 for most titles are still including Ukraine.

In 2002 COS grossed 8.1 million and it was a huuge success. It became the highest grossed movie of the year and for several weeks it was highest grossed movie in post-soviet period. Later The Two Towers, The Matrix Reloaded and Terminator 3 beat it but nevertheless I consider it a huge success. In that time Ukrainian share in CIS grosses was much lower than now, some cities with more than one million population like Donetsk had only one or two working movie theaters. Still most likely technically you are right and GOF grossed in Russia more than COS. However, that's not the point. In 2004 the market considerably grew, ticket prices increased and exchange rates were much more favorable. The school vacations just started and PoA was the only movie for children for entire month. Anyone was expecting at least 10 million but it grossed only about 7.6 million. I was really surprised and dissapointed. How come that some trash like Spy Kids 3 grossed 6.3 million and Harry Potter 3 only 7.6 million? That's really weird.

After that in 2005 I wasn't expecting much from GoF. You're right again that it was a stupid idea releasing two movies, HP4 and Narnia in one day. Also there was a monthly delay after US release and with huge piracy level anyone could buy it on streets. Besides next week opened overhyped trash called Day Watch which killed all the competition. GOF grossed only about 8 million (9th place for the year) and it still was another dissapointment for disttributors, especially taking into account that Narnia beat it despite the fact that Clive Lewis' books are much less known in Russia and Ukraine.

Anyway that's why 7 million is a great number. When I went to see the movie in my local theater it had about 180-200 people. I've never seen such a large crowd in this theater on early morning.

That's fantastic. Great job with the site!

Please, don't try to rehabillytate yourself after being dipt into shit.
I never said anything about POA - you answer the question that wasn't asked. It was a dissapointment, nobody argues. In the US and other countries it grossed less than any other part, Russia was not an exception - I guess the reason was the movie itself, so nothing weird.

P.S. And billy, I guess you've mistaken the place. In the community of 100%-idiots on kinopoisk.ru a 50%-idiot may be considered a demigod, but here that's not the case. Don't you feel uncomfortable here since somebody can reveal your stupidity?

Ain't my fault about this mess with numbers including Ukraine or not. I suppose right now no one could part Ukrainian grosses for most older movies, even distributors or guys from kinobusiness (no matter reliable it or not). There is nothing we can do about it except taking those numbers as they are provided to us.

But they can ADD Ukrainian numbers to Russia and CIS as it was before and everything will be OK. I don't understand, what's the point: they add Belarus, Moldova, Armenia, Kazakhstan to Russia, but they take off Ukraine. Where's the logic? Unite all the numbers or divide all the numbers. 'Inventors' from Kinobusiness made up all this crap, but they are too stupid to understand what they've done.

Thank You!

I think the problem is that before 2005 all these countries and Ukraine had same distributors - Karo-Premiere, Gemini, West and others. But since 2005 Ukraine has its own local distributors for hollywood movies like (Sinergia, Kinomania and others). The other CIS countries you mentioned Belarus, Moldova, Armenia, Kazakhstan still have the same distributors as Russia.

Possibly it's somehow related with new policy of Ukrainian goverment that foreighn movies must be mostly dubbed or subtitled on Ukraine language. Maybe it's just also that our theater owners and businessman wanted to make money by themselves without Russian distributors.

I think it's quite possible that when was one distributor for Russia and Ukraine there was no reason to separate grosses from Ukraine from Russian so these numbers for Ukraine are not publically available or even not existed for some older movies. Now it's different distributors so that's probably why they don't want to combine their grosses.

Well $7m is huge which ever way you look at it.....Nazgul9, stop complaining. You're being a baby again...

Hey where's the credit for me...i helped you build that site Mark...and you know that

I thought your too young for that? What did you do in 2001?

I think the problem is that Kinobusiness (and its holder ZAO "Business-media"), which collects box-office numbers, is a media-prostitute, doing everything for its own comfort and ignoring anything that needs thinking and working. I'm boycotting their magazines since they made Bloodrayne the movie of a month, and then Deuce Bigalow 2, putting their posters on cover. Since then I don't take these people seriously, because they can do anything for penny, even cheating with numbers.

P.S. Yeah, since Yushenko came everything went wrong - can't wait when people dismiss him after the election. I'm for Yanukovich.

Watched Fellowship of the Ring 4x

Russian kinobusiness released its official numbers for Russia and Ukraine.

Russia 7.317.937 on 534 screens
Ukraine 863.131

Already surpassing CIS totals of 3 out of 4 previous parts in just 4 days - quite impressive. $1 m. left to catch GOF's $9.2 m. total. Finally, Harry Potter gets what it really deserved long ago!
Not to mention, that Ratatouille crossed the benchmark of $10 m., now it's the 3d highest grossing animated picture of all-time in CIS behind Shrek 3 and Ice Age 2.

P.S. So, with HP5 and very likely Die Hard 4 there's already 10 movies breaking the $10 m. milestone this year, and only one of them is a local picture. Sweeeeeeeet!

Billy, do you see any Russian pictures that can potentially gross $10 m this year?
I see only Fight with a shadow 2 and truly national historical epic movie "1612" about the liberation of Moscow and Russia from Polish invasion.
Yeah, Poles will release a picture about Russian invasion this year and we've prepared an answer, our picture about their invasion, isn't that interesting?

Hp5 grosses 381 million Overseas as of Tuesday accoriding to variety and now has almost 600 million WW.

Ya this will do somewhere between 935-950 million worldwide.

Not so hard anymore crossing $10m, Transformers did it in just 1.5 weeks...

It should be at $450-460m by Sunday....huge

...1 billion+ !!!

Both films have strong potential but so far as I lnow marketing is pretty weak compared to previous Russian box office hits. Maybe it's too early but the hype and advertising look almost non-existing. At the same time the market will be nearly empty in october-november without strong foreign rivals so 10 million or even more is not out of question. I'm definitely not an expert in modern Russian cinema but I think you are totally right here. It seems unlikely that any other Russian film could become a big hit this year.

Returning to subject. Potter is very strong in UK. Now the studio is predicting that it will gross 99-103 million there.

That would be amazing. I am wondering if all the rain that they have been having recently is driving up the movie buisness there? Of course I don't think it helps the areas that are having the really bad flooding. I think 600 is nearly a lock. The question is how much more than that.

Thanks to strong weekdays (schools are out for summer), it now looks like HP5 will beat HP3 in Germany. After this Sunday HP5 should be at 5.1m tix, HP3 was at 4.7m tix after three weekends... Even though SIMPSONS is the expected Juggernaut, HP5 should drop only about 40-45 % to 0.6m tix this weekend

Nice that Potter can hold pretty well against Simpsons....spillover business....