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2 hours:

Live Free or Die Hard - 3,720 (751), 1,100 (141) Friday, +179 (+18), A-
Ratatouille - 859 (127), +154 (+30), A-
Sicko - 1,955 (1,245), 1,535 (1,138) Friday, +80 (+26), C+ (down from B-)
Evening - 92 (32), +14 (+2), B (down from B+)

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Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:45 pm
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I'm surprised at Sicko's C+. Good jump for Rat. How many more updates after this?


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I think Ratatouille has a shot at $20M. Its evening pacing is strong and the crowd reports suggest a low ratio. I could see it finishing with 1000+ reviews and a ratio of 50. That would make sense in this era of lower ratios.

Die Hard looks solid and should be about $10M today.

Sicko's ratio is a crapshoot, but I think it has at least $2.5M in the bag.

Despite the TC, I expect Evening to have a lower than anticipated ratio. I think it can eek out $1M since there have been sporadic sellouts for it tonight.


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Mr. Inc wrote:
I'm surprised at Sicko's C+. Good jump for Rat. How many more updates after this?


4 more, with the last one at 3:30 AM EST.


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Rolling Thunder wrote:
Sicko's ratio is a crapshoot, but I think it has at least $2.5M in the bag.


The problem with Sicko is that when it wasn't on frontpage, its pace slowed down quite significantly comparing to what it was getting before, so being on frontpage could really throw the ratio off.

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xiayun wrote:
Rolling Thunder wrote:
Sicko's ratio is a crapshoot, but I think it has at least $2.5M in the bag.


The problem with Sicko is that when it wasn't on frontpage, its pace slowed down quite significantly comparing to what it was getting before, so being on frontpage could really throw the ratio off.


Yeah, it may end up having one of the highest ratios we've ever recorded. It went totally bonkers when it was on the front page.


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It is still possible for Ratatouille to get to 1,100? It's nearly at 1,000 with two hours to go.


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Yeah, the written percentage is definitely the highest we've ever seen.

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Are you guys going to be able to predict the Friday number for Die Hard? Or does this Yahoo tracking only work for the opening day?


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Speevy wrote:
Are you guys going to be able to predict the Friday number for Die Hard? Or does this Yahoo tracking only work for the opening day?


For Wed openers, Yahoo doesn't normally tell us much from what we could already project from its Thursday number.

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2 hours:

Live Free or Die Hard - 3,845 (769), 1,225 (159) Friday, +125 (+18), A-
Ratatouille - 1,003 (143), +144 (+16), A-
Sicko - 2,031 (1,278), 1,611 (1,171) Friday, +76 (+33), B- (up from C+)
Evening - 102 (34), +10 (+2), B

Ratatouille is having one of the best legs late night legs I've ever seen for an animated feature. It has been running neck-in-neck with Die Hard all night even though it will definitely have a lower ratio. $20m is no doubt in play.

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So if it gets $20m on Fri, will it get past $60m?


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Considering crowd reports, is a 1,000 ratio seriously in play for Sicko? That'd be a major shame. Great for Da Rat tho.


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So if it gets $20m on Fri, will it get past $60m?
I think it can. Though it's farther into the summer than Cars, I think WOM can help it have a similar IM.


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So $65 million is in play. Not bad at all. It could have Monsters, Inc.s legs if that one played in the summer.

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It may make it to 1200 reviews!!!

Which would guarantee a $20 OD, imho.

Maybe even slightly above.

$20-24 mil

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I wonder how long Live Free or Die Hard can maintain that A-. The only other movies with that grade: Shawshank Redemption, LOTR:ROTK, The Godfather, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Schindler's List. :wacko:


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This guy wrote an excellent review on Ratatouille:

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I love the way Ratatouille director Brad Bird pushes the edges of family entertainment ever so slightly. His last work was The Incredibles, which contained the somewhat uncomfortable specter of death -- the part where Mr. Incredible discovers many of the old superheroes had been killed off stung in the gut. A supposed kids' movie isn't supposed to make death feel this close, this threatening, is it?

But Bird apparently believes one of two things: either kids shouldn't be coddled, or that his movies aren't necessarily for kids. Either way, one of Ratatouille's earliest scenes involves a rifle-wielding granny suddenly discovering a rat infestation in her house. Normally, all those rats should give anyone an icky feeling, and I'm no exception; but these rats are also kind of cute, and as they run from the rifle blasts, I naturally wanted to see them get away. But still -- all those rats! A kids' movie shouldn't be making rats cute, should it?

Bird's decision to work primarily in animation, which, in the U.S., sadly equals family fare, is at odds with his penchant for crafting stories filled with adult urgency, and I'm always happy to see he hasn't allowed the genre's expectations to stifle his creative side. Better yet, it doesn't stifle his subversive side either. On the surface, Ratatouille is a story about following your dreams, but more deeply, it's about understanding and following your talents. Added to this theme is the idea that talent is special: at first, the film has you believing its motto follows the one of a celebrity chef -- "Anyone can cook," he says -- but by the film's end, that concept will have been slyly subverted.

Kids' movies these days subscribe too easily to the simplistic notion that anyone can accomplish anything they desire, and Bird must see a potential pitfall in encouraging others to succeed in areas they may not necessarily be suited for. He communicates an idea that all people are not necessarily created equal in regards to the things they may naturally be good at (indeed, they may each be naturally good at different things). The Incredibles showed this by contrasting the superheroes' amazing and varying inborn abilities against those of its villain, Syndrome. He had no super powers but wanted to become a superhero; bitterness at not being able to accept not having powers leads him to become a villain.

Ratatouille follows up the idea of talent not being an entitlement by saying discovered talents should be nurtured. The main character, a lovable rat named Remy (voice of Patton Oswalt), has a natural talent for cooking -- the problem is, well, he's a rat. But he finds a way to exercise his abilities through a partnership with a pushover wannabe-chef named Linguini (voice of Lou Romano). Linguini can't cook a lick, but working with Remy gives him a way to pretend that he can. The direction in which this story goes is surprising -- in any other contemporary animated film, we could expect a certain outcome -- for Linguini in particular -- but Bird, instead, doesn't go for any kind of pandering denouement, and the movie is ten times better for it.

The film is filled with layers of rich delight, both in themes and technical achievements. It is, frankly, a beautiful looking movie, with the character designs of the rats semi-realistic in bodies and movement, and the designs of the humans delightfully cartoony. Any new computer-animated feature scores bragging points by showing what it can do with water and with hair, and this movie increases the bar. And its technique is in harmony with its theme of longing for more artistic appreciation. To Remy (and a few other characters, including the food critic Anton Ego, voiced by Peter O'Toole), eating isn't just eating -- good cooking is an art and should be savored. Likewise, Bird and the Pixar studio take pride in their animation, even including a disclaimer in the end credits that says it's 100% percent pure animation -- no motion captured was used in the creation of this movie!

Ratatouille is not without problems; a few things bothered me here and there. For instance, in its Paris setting, why do some of the more minor characters have French accents, while many of the major ones do not? And then there's the idea of making rats cute again -- how is a parent supposed to explain, afterwards, that rats aren't cute and often carry diseases? I can forgive that one a little more easily because I was born in the year of the Rat; all kidding aside, I'm glad Bird decides explaining such things should not be his problem. Animation shouldn't be just for kids -- animation should be used to tell good stories, like any other mode of cinema. And, with its many strengths, Ratatouille is a great story, and a great movie.

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Links opened before top of the hour update:

Live Free or Die Hard - 3,910 (785), 1,290 (175) Friday, +65 (+16), A-
Ratatouille - 1,044 (152), +41 (+9), A-
Sicko - 2,059 (1,295), 1,639 (1,188) Friday, +28 (+17), B-
Evening - 102 (34), +3 (+1), B


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LFODH's grade is just great. Even if it drops, word-of-mouth must be excellent for it to hold that grade for three days straight.

Looks like $20-21m for Ratatouille, $10m for Die Hard, $2-2.5m for Sicko and I guess $0.9-1.0m for Evening.


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Fantasy Moguls Estimates are in....


1. Ratatouille (Buena Vista) - $16.5M [$16.5M cume]
2. Live Free or Die Hard (Fox) - $9.25M [$24.25M cume]


Seems real low given how busy the Mercado was tonight.


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lancer1997 wrote:
Fantasy Moguls Estimates are in....


1. Ratatouille (Buena Vista) - $16.5M [$16.5M cume]
2. Live Free or Die Hard (Fox) - $9.25M [$24.25M cume]


Seems real low given how busy the Mercado was tonight.



Mercado was probably buy outs by local tech firms (maybe even Pixar) it's Yahoo I think who does the crazy several show buyouts for opening night. Maybe Google.


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That seems way low for Ratatouille, and slightly low for Die Hard.

That's about a 70+ ratio for Ratatouille.

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notfabio wrote:
lancer1997 wrote:
Fantasy Moguls Estimates are in....


1. Ratatouille (Buena Vista) - $16.5M [$16.5M cume]
2. Live Free or Die Hard (Fox) - $9.25M [$24.25M cume]


Seems real low given how busy the Mercado was tonight.



Mercado was probably buy outs by local tech firms (maybe even Pixar) it's Yahoo I think who does the crazy several show buyouts for opening night. Maybe Google.



Yahoo is right next door. Sun Micro is down the street too.

Either way Can you interpret the numbers you posted on HSX for us?


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Final projections:

Live Free or Die Hard - $9.5m
Ratatouille - $18m
Sicko - $2.2m (random guess)
Evening - $1m

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