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Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh.
You don't?
This explains a lot. 
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:27 pm |
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Gulli
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Lord Squeekington wrote: Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh. You don't? This explains a lot. 
You take this round Squeekington 
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:29 pm |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh.
To me it is a style of funny, just to me.
Their is slap stick, crude, situational, and wit.
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Gulli
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh. To me it is a style of funny, just to me. Their is slap stick, crude, situational, and wit.
But if something makes you laugh you don't go.
"Oh that was funny, but unfortunately because it was more a situational laugh then a laugh based on dry wit I won't be as happy with that laugh"
Thats just barmy.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:56 pm |
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mdana
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Quote: KNOCKED UP....I saw Knocked Up yesterday. I wouldn't normally bother mentioning this, but because it's gotten so many enthusiastic reviews I want to add mine to the pile: It was quite possibly the worst movie I've seen in the past year. Or three. I almost walked out halfway through out of sheer boredom.
The dialogue is leaden. The plot was phoned in. There is not a single engaging character in the entire cast. Seth Rogen is almost completely charmless. There are no jokes worth more than a slightly upturned lip. We are expected to believe that Katherine Heigl has trouble getting a date. The supposed anguish of the characters is vapid and platitudinous. And aside from a change in the tempo of the music at the end, there is no genuine reason to believe that any of them has actually changed in any serious way. So, um, I guess that's a thumbs down from a married, childless, 48-year-old grump. Just thought I'd share in case there are other people out there like me.
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I didn't quite hate it that much, but this movie was a disappointment from someone that loved 40 YOV and thought Freeks and Geeks may have been the best show on TV the last 2 decades.
OK Judd, we get your man crush on Seth Rogan, not sure why you have to subject the rest of us to him. However, do you have to subject us to more Rogan and Rudd bantering that I am sure cracks up your crew, but goes nowhere on screen. It just comes across as lame and lazy when you continue to do it when it was the weakest part of 40 YOV. Also, nice that you think your family is adorable, but I don't want to see home movies of your family. Get some actors that can act.
That stated the best acting was done by your wife, and your oldest daughter was effective. However, your youngest child may be adorable in your eyes, but the screen doesn't like her, and she could never deliver her lines in anything approaching understandable language. Next time, spend some money on a casting director. Also, chip in on a cinematographer, again like Virgin there were scenes where the top was cropped and it just looked cheap.
Rudd did a good job and both his and Mann's characters were the best thing in the movie. For your/Rudd's obsession with
"Everybody Loves Raymond", the movie was more like "Will and Grace" where Jack and Karen are much more interesting than the leads.
I like Heigl, but how was her acting any different than what she does on Gray? I am no fan of Rogan, but he did his best with a role I never believed in for a moment.
The were way too many unrealistic bits or scenes that went nowhere. Rogan blurts out how they got pregnant as soon as he meets a group of Heigl's old friends, did the pot fry his brain? What type of person just starts blabbering stuff like that people as soon as introductions are over. Just poorly constructed scenes throughtout the film.
What I really hated about this movie was how simplistically it treated a serious decision, to bring life into this world under less than ideal situations and made it as pro-life bs as possible. Heigl's mom was presented as cold while recommending termination, when she was trying to be pragmatic and realistic.
After seeing Waitress last week, when an unwanted pregancy was also treated unrealistically (however, the whole movie had kind of a surreal fantasy aspect, so I didn't find it bothersome), I am fed up with how modern films treat desired terminations. I trace the problem back to Ron Howard's Parenthood which talked the talk (Keanu Reeves speech about licensing parents), but didn't walk the walk, every unwanted pregancy was delivered and was a blessing. It is like pro-lifers have taken over Hollywood. These are not typical mainstream films either, these are indies or close to it. In films like this abusive husbands just disappear never to bother anyone again. Dads with substance problems who have never had a job quit cold turkey and land nice jobs overnight.
I am not stating every character faced with an unwanted pregnacy has to terminate it, but it would be nice to see that option explored as opposed to just summarily mentioned or used to villify a character.
I long for the days of when a basic high school comedy, for example "Fast Times at Ridgemont High", could show a underage girl end a pregnancy, and she was more upset that her overwhelmed "boyfriend" doesn't show up, than with the procedure. Added bonus, no moralizing by director Amy Heckerling.
I am not one that misses the 80s in movies or in real life, but in this aspect I am nostalgiac for that sense of maturity for a situation much more complex than today's filmakers seem willing to acknowledge.
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Squee
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Believe it or not, some people wouldn't have to struggle much with the idea of keeping the baby over getting an abortion. Even in an inconvenient situation.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:04 pm |
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mdana
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Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh. To me it is a style of funny, just to me. Their is slap stick, crude, situational, and wit. But if something makes you laugh you don't go. "Oh that was funny, but unfortunately because it was more a situational laugh then a laugh based on dry wit I won't be as happy with that laugh" Thats just barmy. \
Bullshit. If you get off, you know like an actual erection, there are cheap ways and sophisticated ways. A member of the opposite sex maybe attractive and push your buttons, but there is no passion, your brain is not engaged it is just carnal flesh pleasures.
Same thing with laughter. There are ways that make you want to take shower afterwards to wash yourself of the cheapness or tawdryness. There are plenty of times I laugh and I don't respect myself or the creator of the joke. It appeals too much to the reptilian id than to my humanity.
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Gulli
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Then I feel sorry for you.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:08 pm |
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mdana
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Lord Squeekington wrote: Believe it or not, some people wouldn't have to struggle much with the idea of keeping the baby over getting an abortion. Even in an inconvenient situation.
No shit, but it is always the same decision in movies, keeping the fetus. It is not a baby until it is actually born, so get your terms right. First of all you use pro-life terminolgy, it is a voluntary termination not an abortion. I worked in a hospital and this pro-life bullshit in things like House, Grey's Anatomy, and everything coming out of Hollywood is fantasyland bullshit, just as destructive as having starving starlets paraded around as some sort of ideal.
If people want to have kids under trying circumstances, that is their perogative. I have seen the situation countless times and it is never what is presented in the films. The abusive husband that drinks and cheats before the baby is born does the same thing afterwards and then the child and mother are in the E.R. for the next few years until she leaves and the father respects the court order or ends up killing them. However, on TV or films, the child is such a blessing and everything is wonderful. The baby isn't beaten to death, neglected, or abandoned at McDonald's in the middle of the night.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:33 pm |
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Squee
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Oh sorry, what I meant to say was: "Believe it or not, some people wouldn't have to struggle much with the idea of keeping a parasite living off of their body alive long enough for it to come to term over having it voluntarily terminated."
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Libs
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I find the whole argument that the movie is apparently excessively pro-life to be ridiculous.
A woman's right to choose (i.e. PRO-CHOICE) indicates she has the right to CHOOSE (key word: CHOOSE!) what she wants to do with her baby. Whether that means termination or keeping it. Allison CHOSE to keep her baby. End of story.
The movie didn't ignore abortion (and I disagree that it made Allison's mom look like a cold psycho, since you see her happily playing with the baby over the end credits), Apatow just elected to have Allison decide against it.
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Gulli
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mdana wrote: The abusive husband that drinks and cheats before the baby is born does the same thing afterwards and then the child and mother are in the E.R. for the next few years until she leaves and the father respects the court order or ends up killing them. However, on TV or films, the child is such a blessing and everything is wonderful. The baby isn't beaten to death, neglected, or abandoned at McDonald's in the middle of the night.
Hmmm, not challenging the example but I don't think that would work in the context of a comedy, unless its a Roddy Doyle novel he might pull it off.
Actually go watch "The Snapper" you'd love that film.
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xiayun
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Hmm, I'm on the left and certainly pro-choice, but I enjoyed the film for what it is and never felt it is somehow trying to make a political agenda of promoting pro-life. I could see people have different emotion due to personal experience, that happens to films (like United 93), but to concentrate on that particular aspect for such a comedy is a little nitty picky, IMO.
And I didn't know that "abortion" is a pro-life term that people like me couldn't use when debating with girlfriends/wives to make our choice.
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bABA
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apparently, the idea of abortion as women's choice only applies if its the only choice.
wait a minute.
this reminds me of something .. you know ... those numnuts who state that pro life IS the only choice.
who would have thunk!
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Gullimont wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: There were many funny parts, I just was expecting more wittiness. That makes absolutely no sense. Wit is a type of funny. If something makes me laugh I don't go to a filing cabinet and check on my laugh quality meter to see if its a valid laugh. To me it is a style of funny, just to me. Their is slap stick, crude, situational, and wit. But if something makes you laugh you don't go. "Oh that was funny, but unfortunately because it was more a situational laugh then a laugh based on dry wit I won't be as happy with that laugh" Thats just barmy.
Problme is, I didn't laugh.
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Jonathan
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Th creators have stated that they're pro-choice, it's just that a film where she gets the abortion would only be about 15 minutes.
Very valid reasoning IMO.
Ugh I need to see this. I don't think I've seen anyone quote the same quote twice yet from this movie.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:33 pm |
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Libs
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Ben: Do you want to do it doggie style? Alison: You're not going to fuck me like a dog. Ben: It's doggie style. We don't have to go outside or anything.
I think that might have been the movie's funniest scene. There are other worthy contenders of that title, though.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:44 pm |
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Libs
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Magnus wrote: I think the best was when the gynecologist said, "You look a lot like your sister."
Subtle humor at its best.
My favorite gynocologist was the female one who said, "Oh, wait, that is your asshole, not your vagina."
The audience I saw it with didn't stop laughing for like 2 minutes after that.
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Rev
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Had some hillarious moments but overall not as good as 40YOV or WC.
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The best movie of the year and one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. The entire cast was brilliant. I especially loved Paul Rudd and Kristen Wiig. I laughed at every single thing Wiig said...she delivered everything so well. I am trying to go over in my head what the funniest scene was, and I really can't decide. The hotel scene in Vegas is a top contender. Rudd and Rogen played off each other perfectly. Ahh, I loved this movie so much.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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I did like the chair scene, maybe the only time they use wit.
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KNOCKED UP
Pretty funny movie but there are three annoying things about it.
1. Way to much drug usage.
2. Annoying and continual use of the word Fuck.
3. Annoying sister.
Yes, it's rated R but I wasn't expecting Money Talks level profanity and the use of drugs was just tiresome. I'm so sick of seeing marijuana portrayed like it's a feel good drug with no consequences all the time, but yes it's rated R. Lastly, the sister was just so annoying and so controling that even I wanted to "get away" from her. Overall, it was a pretty funny film but certainly no classic and I think it was even par with 40yrd old.
Grade - B
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Johnny Dollar
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Every misguided negative-ish review I read here makes me like the film more and more.
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Bradley Witherberry
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yoshue wrote: Every misguided negative-ish review I read here makes me like the film more and more.
You are not a contrarian!
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:21 pm |
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Ben: Do you want to do it doggie style? Alison: You're not going to fuck me like a dog. Ben: It's doggie style. We don't have to go outside or anything.
That's not funny, it's just gross.
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