I feel Pan or water should have won that.

So pissed.

other than that it was great the award show, marty got his award finally.

I share your feeling. Pan's was soooooo much better than our entry. And to see Donnersmarck, one of the biggest jerks in the movie business get the award was just gut-wrenching

I haven't seen the Foreign winner yet, but I've only heard good things.

But as for Pan's Labyrinth -- it already got way more recognition than it deserved -- I'll never forgive it for stealing the cinematography Oscar from Children of Men -- that was just plain wrong!

Pan definitely got robbed, then again I felt Apocolypto deserved to be nominated too.

Indeed. Retribution, I say.

Then again, Apocolypto was not even eligible.

Hehe, I'm obviously very happy for Germany.

I thought Pan's was an incredible, overwhelming movie. Extraordinary stuff.

That said, I haven't seen Lives of Others, but have read the glowing reviews. So...I can't be too upset about this. Yet.

Having now seen both films, this is one of my favorite choices of the night. The Lives of Others would easily get my vote over Pan's Labyrinth - if it's not the best film of the year, it's certainly right up there.

I have now seen Pan's Labyrinth which was excellent. I have hard time imagining that Lives is better, yet I'm still happy for Germany Germany should have won for Downfall and Sophie Scholl anyway.

i'm sorry but did you ever see the winner?? did you??

stop criticizing awards just because your local and preferred films didn't win.

Who exactly are you ranting at?

Everyone's been quite supportive of the winner in this thread, even the OP who suffers from the popular new disease Pan's Dementia included a second choice...

why the thread starter ofcourse.

you need to see all 5 nominees in theaters to vote for a category, so the people that voted Pan's in for the technical awards probably didn't vote for foreign film.

I was a little pissed that it didn't win because it was in my top five of last year, and although I haven't seen The Lives of Others yet, I highly doubt it is better than Pan's. Downfall was robbed two years ago, so maybe this was a make up for that?

I'm seeing The Lives of Others this weekend. Hard to see it topping Pan's, but I'm still excited.

Pan's Labyrinth is still my favorite, but The Lives of Others is very solid too. A strong A- and should remain in my top 10 throughout this year.

Just got back from The Lives of Others, and it was a great film. It's not a masterpiece though. Pan's is a masterpiece, but I can completely understand hwo this beat Pan's. The voters (those who have seen all 5 foreign films nominated) are pompous elitists, and most definitely often had trouble taking Pan's seriously. Lives offered a much more conservative option, and a damn good one at that....but like I said, Pan's is the masterpiece, Lives is a great film. Better than anything last year except for Pan's, actually. I'm happy it won, it's bringing an audience to Lives, which Pan's already has.

So, I've seen 'Lives of the Others'..

I loved Pan's Labyrinth.. but 'Lives of the Others' is also really really great..