Which Oscar category winner most displeased you?
Which Oscar category winner most displeased you?
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Christian
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Loved Pan's, but I felt that its type of cinematography has been done before in Sleepy Hollow and A Little Princess, which are, ironically by Emmanuel Lubezki.
I was hoping that a sci-fi/action/thriller type of movie would win this time.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:49 pm |
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Christian
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I also find it interesting that Santaolalla won twice in a row (is he 2 for 2 now?).
IN a very insular category, that's pretty out of the ordinary.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:00 pm |
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Christian
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Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
You probably haven't seen an anti-Babel board because you spend more time in the "Little Bitch Breslin Has a Beergut" board. 
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:02 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Pan's winning the cinematography award is the only thing that night that bothered me really. Children of Men had some of the best cinematography I've seen in years.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:57 pm |
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android
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Have you guys heard the whole score for Babel? If not, please STFU. Thank you.
Of the major 8, I'd say The Departed for Adapted Screenplay, honestly (not to mention Picture!). 3 greater works nominated in the same category (Notes, Little Children and Borat), not to mention it's a remake of a supposedly even better film (haven't seen it yet)... Also Arkin for Supporting, but I understand the win since the Academy doesn't have the Best Ensemble award. And Whitaker upset me for being Lead instead of Supporting. Haven't seen Mirren and Hudson's winning performances, so no comments for now. I won't talk about Scorsese.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:18 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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android wrote: Have you guys heard the whole score for Babel? If not, please STFU. Thank you. Of the major 8, I'd say The Departed for Adapted Screenplay, honestly (not to mention Picture!). 3 greater works nominated in the same category (Notes, Little Children and Borat), not to mention it's a remake of a supposedly even better film (haven't seen it yet)... Also Arkin for Supporting, but I understand the win since the Academy doesn't have the Best Ensemble award. And Whitaker upset me for being Lead instead of Supporting. Haven't seen Mirren and Hudson's winning performances, so no comments for now. I won't talk about Scorsese.
Infernal Affairs is a very good movie, but The Departed is simply better. It took most of the good aspects of the original and added a lot of new great stuff. I wouldn't call the original "supposedly" better considering most reviewers and audiences embraced the remake more.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:22 pm |
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Caius
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android wrote: Have you guys heard the whole score for Babel? If not, please STFU. Thank you.
What relevance is that? The award is for the best score to a film, so what portion of the score is in the film, is what is voted on.
COM not being nominated for any of the sound awards still irks me.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:23 pm |
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android
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Dr. Lecter wrote: android wrote: Have you guys heard the whole score for Babel? If not, please STFU. Thank you. Of the major 8, I'd say The Departed for Adapted Screenplay, honestly (not to mention Picture!). 3 greater works nominated in the same category (Notes, Little Children and Borat), not to mention it's a remake of a supposedly even better film (haven't seen it yet)... Also Arkin for Supporting, but I understand the win since the Academy doesn't have the Best Ensemble award. And Whitaker upset me for being Lead instead of Supporting. Haven't seen Mirren and Hudson's winning performances, so no comments for now. I won't talk about Scorsese. Infernal Affairs is a very good movie, but The Departed is simply better. It took most of the good aspects of the original and added a lot of new great stuff. I wouldn't call the original "supposedly" better considering most reviewers and audiences embraced the remake more.
Ok, I just now a really good friend that thinks that way. Wasn't paying too much attention to the critics, when I said "supposedly" better, yeah. 
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:24 pm |
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android
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KidRock69x wrote: android wrote: Have you guys heard the whole score for Babel? If not, please STFU. Thank you. What relevance is that? The award is for the best score to a film, so what portion of the score is in the film, is what is voted on. COM not being nominated for any of the sound awards still irks me.
Nope. Sometimes, just because the score seems so "minimalistic", you think it's just "a few strings", like tons of people like to say. That's all.
(but yeah, hearing the score separately might convince some people...)
Babel's score (as the whole movie) is extremely underrated in here.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:27 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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I think the score nominees this year were all rather weak-ish to be honest. I'd have given it to The Queen from the films I saw and from what I generally heard, to Pan's.
Last year's nominees were all vastly better. Munich, Brokeback, Gardener had splendid scores!
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:34 pm |
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Magic Mike
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bradley witherberry wrote: Mike wrote: Jennifer Hudson winning Best Supporting Actress just because I can't stand that ugly cow. Yow! That's awful mean (and untrue to boot)... It's not even to do with looks either because I didn't like her before I knew what she looked like because she's a religious homophobe. Plus it wouldn't be to do with looks either since I kind of like Queen Latifah and enjoyed Phat Girlz  . It's just Jennifer Hudson herself I don't like. loyalfromlondon wrote: Mike wrote: Hmm, I don't know. I suppose Jennifer Hudson winning Best Supporting Actress just because I can't stand that ugly cow. She's a singer and that's what she did in the movie. She didn't really have to act. She doesn't deserve to win for being able to sing. She better enjoy her Oscar because she'll never get another one. Even though I loved the scores for Notes on a Scandal and Pan's Labyrinth (two of the best scores of the year by far) I am happy Gustavo won for Babel. I thought it was obvious he would. I haven't seen the movie yet but I wasn't even that interested until I learned he did the score music and it had the same cinematographer as Brokeback Mountain. Considering Brokeback Mountain had the best, most powerful score music I've ever heard and the best cinematography I've ever seen I know these aspects in the film will have to be top-notch. I hope he wins every time he's nominated for Best Score  . All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti- Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin. Also, I loved the upsets for Best Animated Film and Best Song. Cars is solid but definitely overrated and Happy Feet was the best animated movie of 2006. It had fantastic animation too. And none of the Best Songs were great, but Melissa Etheridge beating all of the annoying music from Dreamgirls was a friggin' delight. You're one angry gay guy.
It's funny because I'm sure that nobody who actually knows me would describe me as angry. They'd probably describe me the exact opposite. I'm not really a very angry person. But I know I came off angry in the post since I was ranting.
Anyway, it was disappointing that Pan's Labyrinth didn't win Best Foreign Film, since it is a great film, but since it got the other awards and is already a big hit for a foreign film and will obviously live on and be a cult favorite it doesn't bother me that much.
And Cate Blanchett should have won Best Supporting Actress, even if it was obvious she wouldn't.
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Dkmuto
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I think the score nominees this year were all rather weak-ish to be honest. I'd have given it to The Queen from the films I saw and from what I generally heard, to Pan's.
Last year's nominees were all vastly better. Munich, Brokeback, Gardener had splendid scores!
At the end of the year, Babel's score was the only one that impressed me to the point where I actually remembered some of it. That and The Departed's, which I think is underrated.
Pan's' was good, and listening to it later, I'm really impressed by it. But it didn't really strike me while watching the film, and I think that's where it's lacking. At least for me.
But yeah, I agree, I think the nominees for Score this year paled in comparison to those for last year.
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:54 pm |
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Korrgan
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Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
Hahahaha,ohmyGod.LittleMissBeergut. Sotrue.
IhatethatHappyFeetwontheOscar.Itwassuchahorriblemovie.Whywasn'tOvertheHedgenominated? 
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Bradley Witherberry
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Korrgan wrote: Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
Hahahaha,ohmyGod.LittleMissBeergut. Sotrue.IhatethatHappyFeetwontheOscar.Itwassuchahorriblemovie.Whywasn'tOvertheHedgenominated? 
I wonder where girls get their body image problems from?
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:05 pm |
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android
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Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
I know people also didn't like it outside KJ, but it sure seems like KJ is the microcosmos of the Babel haters.
Well, we're still a little more than half dozen here. Me, you, Dk, PE, Gun, thompson, makeshift and zennier(?) 
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:09 pm |
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Rod
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android wrote: Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
I know people also didn't like it outside KJ, but it sure seems like KJ is the microcosmos of the Babel haters. Well, we're still a little more than half dozen here. Me, you, Dk, PE, Gun, thompson, makeshift and zennier(?) 
*ahem*
If I could think of a single reason why babel didn't deserve score it is that, as i mentioned before, it reminded me quite a bit of the score for amores perros and 21 grams. it was perfect for the movie, though.
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android
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Rod wrote: android wrote: Mike wrote: All of the Babel hate here puzzles me. It's like it's the anti-Babel board. I haven't seen a place more negative towards it, and this is actually a board for movie fans. Weird. Yet everyone loves the overrated Little Miss Beergut, which had grating performances by Arkin (though I'm glad he beat a-hole Eddie Murphy) and Breslin.
I know people also didn't like it outside KJ, but it sure seems like KJ is the microcosmos of the Babel haters. Well, we're still a little more than half dozen here. Me, you, Dk, PE, Gun, thompson, makeshift and zennier(?)  *ahem*  If I could think of a single reason why babel didn't deserve score it is that, as i mentioned before, it reminded me quite a bit of the score for amores perros and 21 grams. it was perfect for the movie, though.
 and YOU of course, sweet Rod.
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zennier
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all these posts from android.... *swoons*
yeah, put me in the "i like babel" group... i don't love it, but i like it. the score win was deserved. i quite like that 'stuff'.
i think little children really, really should have won best a. screenplay. :-(
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Christian
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zennier wrote: all these posts from android.... *swoons*
It's probably the Iberian breeze he takes in 
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kypade
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Score of Pan's, Notes, Queen >> Entirety of Babel.
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zennier
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ValleyGuyChristian wrote: zennier wrote: all these posts from android.... *swoons*
It's probably the Iberian breeze he takes in 

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Hm... I'm thinking Arkin winning. As much as I love the movie I didn't think his performance was anything award worthy.
My personal pick was Haley, but I honestly wouldn't have been bothered with Murphy, or even Wahlberg winning. (haven't seen Blood Diamond...)
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:21 pm |
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Alex Y.
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I thought Babel's score was an improvement over Brokeback Mountain's score last year. Where were the haters last year against the composer or it's just an anti-Babel-winning anything sentiment?
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android
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zennier wrote: ValleyGuyChristian wrote: zennier wrote: all these posts from android.... *swoons*
It's probably the Iberian breeze he takes in  
You're making me blush. Stop it... 
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Mine was Forest whitaker. I remember I had posted that they wouldn't award a BA for a performance about a insane dictator but somehow he had hollywood spellbound by his performance which some have considered more on a BSA level rather than BA and also that the overall film itself was lackluster. I just don't understand his win other than for me to conclude that he's obviously very well respected among the members and they really really liked his performance.
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