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Uh I wouldn't say In the Bedroom's box-office was any better than Little Children's is.

In the Bedroom:
Date Rank Gross % Change Theaters Per Theater Total Gross Days
11/23/2001 37 $93,972 4 $23,493 $93,972 3
11/30/2001 33 $98,955 +5.30% 5 $19,791 $244,369 10
12/7/2001 32 $81,516 -17.62% 6 $13,586 $373,546 17
12/14/2001 33 $72,787 -10.71% 6 $12,131 $484,447 24
12/21/2001 29 $83,227 +14.34% 58 $1,435 $782,826 31

Little Children
10/6/2006 41 $97,953 5 $19,591 $97,953 3
10/13/2006 45 $84,551 -13.68% 5 $16,910 $230,497 10
10/20/2006 27 $238,390 +181.95% 32 $7,450 $508,772 17

And In the Bedroom came out in late November/December, prime Oscar season.

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You know, I just realized something...

If Dreamgirls is a disappointment, which I could very well see, Little Miss Sunshine is going home with the best Musical/Comedy award. That would at the very least put it as 6th or 7th close call come nominations, if not the nom. Up to know I've never really thought of it as in the race, but I'm coming around to Loyal and Lecter's thoughts... It certainly would deserve it.

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This is from Corliss' TIME mag review of Departed a few weeks back - looks like Leo delivers again in Blood Diamond...dont know if it was posted before...

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"This year, DiCaprio's toughest competition for a Best Actor Oscar may be himself — he'sprettysensationalasaRhodesianjewelsmugglerinEdwardZwick'sBloodDiamond, due out in December. He's gone from precocious child star (in What's Eating Gilbert Grape) to teen idol (in Titanic) to full-fledged Actor, brilliant at allowing the viewer to discover, as if in confidence, the emotions that roil his characters' souls. In his third shot with Scorsese, after Gangs of New York and The Aviator, DiCaprio has become the director's new DeNiro — implosive instead of explosive, but just as crucial to each other's success and identity. I hope they make more films together, with DiCaprio as the tortured good cop in Scorsese's cinematic inferno. "


http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... -2,00.html

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There's just one problem: The studio's "Departed" has become such a hit with critics and audiences that the one movie Scorsese and DiCaprio had no intention of campaigning for has become a serious Oscar contender as well. This leaves the studio scrambling to take care of the needs of all its players.

The studio now will mount Oscar campaigns for both "Departed," which already is a commercial success and doesn't need an Oscar push to attract audiences, and "Diamond," which needs all the help it can get. DiCaprio is facing the happy dilemma of handling two possibly Oscar-worthy performances. Warners says it will campaign for DiCaprio in the best actor category for "Diamond," a movie whose political agenda he cares about deeply.


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There's just one problem: The studio's "Departed" has become such a hit with critics and audiences that the one movie Scorsese and DiCaprio had no intention of campaigning for has become a serious Oscar contender as well. This leaves the studio scrambling to take care of the needs of all its players.

The studio now will mount Oscar campaigns for both "Departed," which already is a commercial success and doesn't need an Oscar push to attract audiences, and "Diamond," which needs all the help it can get. DiCaprio is facing the happy dilemma of handling two possibly Oscar-worthy performances. Warners says it will campaign for DiCaprio in the best actor category for "Diamond," a movie whose political agenda he cares about deeply.


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In that case, they probably will indeed go for Jack/Lead and Leo/Supporting.


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Whoops, just read the rest.

Is it really smart to pit Jack, Matt and Leo all in one catagory?


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I think this is a perfect time for Paramount to announce Zodiac will be coming out in 06' if it's as good as im hearing, it'll have a damn good shot at a best picture nod with other films failing to flat out impress.

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My Oscar preview article:

http://www.teenbachelorproductions.com/ ... tlook.html

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All Updated.

Bobby and Breaking and Entering both received positive reviews. A Good Year got a negative.


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Ok, let's see if I understand the reasoning here.

You're saying that the almost 6000 academy members were hanging out online waiting for the numbers to come in, and as soon as they did, they started making phone calls.

academy member #1 "Hey, did you hear the word?"

academy member #2 "No, I just got back from fishing, what's up?"

academy member #1 "Flags of Our Fathers" dropped 45% on it's second weekend. We're not allowed to vote for it anymore."

academy member #2 "Says who?"

academy member #1 "Uh...well...I read it on a messageboard where everybody is obsessed with box office. :blush: "

academy member #2 "So let me see if I've got this straight. I'm not "allowed" to vote for Flags of Our Fathers, even though I really liked it, and even though Steven Spielberg is one of my friends and I'm dying to work with Clint, all because it didn't do great box office?"

academy member #1 "Yeah, well, it had a 90 million dollar budget, and we must punish it for not making it's money back with it's domestic box office returns. It's all about domestic box office returns!"

academy member #2 "So second weekend drops AND it's domestic gross in relation to it's budget, which nobody even knows due to the many MANY ways that costs are offset, are how we determine what we vote for? Not what we liked? Not who we are friends with? Not even DVD sales and rentals are allowed to be considered? We vote based on internet messageboards that put their focus on box office?"

academy member #1 "Well, when you say it like that, it does sound rather silly."

academy member #2 "Quite. Does this mean you'll be voting for Flags?"

academy member #1 "Yes, I will be. I should have my head examined for letting box office enthusiasts on the internet project their mindsets on me. I don't know what I was thinking."

academy member #2 "Glad to see you've got a better perspective. I'll see you at the SAG awards."

THE END

*takes a bow*

The moral of this little theatrical performance should be pretty clear. Just because WE are obsessed with box office to the point that we hang on every number and percentage and per screen average that comes done the line, doesn't mean that the academy members are even considering such nonsense. Do you REALLY believe they are taking budget/domestic gross ratios into consideration when filling out their ballots? Do you seriously believe that they were all sitting at home waiting for Friday's numbers, and the fate of Flags was hanging in the balance?

Guys and girls, please. :huh:


Great post. True too. We're talking about an Eastwood movie here but the same point could be made of any movie in that if the Academy likes/admires something enough they'll vote for it. They (rightly) couldn't care less what internet geeks are saying about the domestic theatrical gross or what the RT rating of Flags is - or any of this other trivia which seems to so totally obsess Oscar prognosticators.


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Damn, and all along I thought Kill was spelling his name wrong.

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Notes on a Scandel, eh? Is that a real contender?

It looks really good.


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New Line drops the ball

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New Line Cinema appears to have pulled back fairly radically on its Little Children bookings. The Oregonian's Shawn Levy is reporting that Todd Field's Cheever-esque drama is "getting a very scattershot release from its distributor and, frankly, may be in trouble. It was meant to open in Portland on 11.3, but that date has been pulled and no new date has yet been announced."

We all know Children hasn't done much business, or been given much of a chance to, I should say. Since opening on 10.6.06 it's only been booked into 32 theatres, and has taken in a total of $801,000, according to http://www.boxofficemojo.com. I understand that a film of this stripe might not play in the boonies, but it's been fairly well reviewed (it has an 88% positive on Rotten Tomatoes) and is widely respected, and you'd think, given this, New Line would at least give it a limited art-house opening for Chrissake in a major city like Portland, if for nothing else than to prime the market for the DVD release in early '07.

I called four New Line people in a position to know something and they were all in meetings.


http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives ... dren_3.php

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^ I hardly even seen ads for the film before release. Every info I got, I got from the net. :hug:

Stupid New Line.


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New Line seems to be clueless when come to pushing art-house films for Oscar. Last year, A History of Violence and The New World managed 3 nominations total.

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I think the race is opening up by quite alot.

The only near-locks are The Departed and The Queen.

I guess, at this point, Dreamgirls would be a safe bet. But aside, from that... :unsure:

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New Line seems to be clueless when come to pushing art-house films for Oscar. Last year, A History of Violence and The New World managed 3 nominations total.


Once again showing LOTR could've been distributed by monkeys and it still would've been big.

Boy does New Line suck.

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Completely updated.

Volver is now being linked at metacritic and is off to a strong start there.


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Updated.


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News on Curse of Golden Flowers.

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The RT stuff is updated. Metacritic isn't working right now for whatever reason.


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Having just seen The Departed, I just can't picture it as a BP winner...


don't get me wrong, the movie is extremely good (and Scorsese's best in a decade, at least) though not as perfect as the hype says it is, but I just don't see it... if we were in the 70's, maybe...


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Having just seen The Departed, I just can't picture it as a BP winner...


don't get me wrong, the movie is extremely good (and Scorsese's best in a decade, at least) though not as perfect as the hype says it is, but I just don't see it... if we were in the 70's, maybe...


But look at the rest of the contenders.

I honestly don't see almost any film that would garner as many votes as The Departed potentially could.

I have yet to see The Queen but something just tells me it's more of a critics thing than an Academy favorite. The only other possibilities are films that have yet to be released and out of those, the only one with enough clout to possibly outshine The Departed is Dreamgirls. And I can't believe it's come to that. I don't even know how much Dreamgirls will live up to the Oscar hype but as of now, it IS the most buzzed about Oscar contender yet to be released.

there are still a few smaller films we'll have to wait and see about, most notably The Good German, but I'm starting to think it's going to come down to the following.

1) the Departed has it in the bag

2) Dreamgirls really surprises and becomes a clear cut front-runner

3) The academy doesn't open up as michbas hoped for The Departed or for Dreamgirls leaving the race pretty spread out so that any one film could gain impulse steam at the end.

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Mav, I think we should track Pan's Labyrinth. It's at least a strong contender for foreign language.

And Borat too. The reviews are just too good. Screenplay and actor noms are possible.

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