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What grade would you give this film?
A 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
B 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
C 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
D 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
F 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
I don't plan seeing this movie 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
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I really need to get around to watching a Saw film.


You're missing out on a few of the best horror films in years.


I'm curious what you thought of other films of this genre like Wolf Crap, the Hills have eyes, TCM and Hostel.

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nghtvsn wrote:
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I really need to get around to watching a Saw film.


You're missing out on a few of the best horror films in years.


I'm curious what you thought of other films of this genre like Wolf Crap, the Hills have eyes, TCM and Hostel.


Wolf Creek and Hostel are okay, nothing great.

I loved TCM '03 and Hills.


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I really need to get around to watching a Saw film.


Nah.

This was my first Saw film. Ho. Ly. Shit. Indeed. I can't believe there is an audience for tripe like this. Someone please explain to me what is fascinating about watching a man explode from inside, a woman have her rib cage ripped inside out, a man drowning in pureed pig, or seeing a woman freeze to death? This is just sick. Absolutely no skill in writing, acting, direction, or entertainment.

WOW!!! All that happens!!? Can't wait to see it now..sounds like my kind of film. :smile:

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An awsome end to such an amazing franchise, this is my favorite by far

I love this movie

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baumer72 wrote:
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I really need to get around to watching a Saw film.


Nah.

This was my first Saw film. Ho. Ly. Shit. Indeed. I can't believe there is an audience for tripe like this. Someone please explain to me what is fascinating about watching a man explode from inside, a woman have her rib cage ripped inside out, a man drowning in pureed pig, or seeing a woman freeze to death? This is just sick. Absolutely no skill in writing, acting, direction, or entertainment.

WOW!!! All that happens!!? Can't wait to see it now..sounds like my kind of film. :smile:


This was a glorified brutal snuff film that caused me to stop by Church on the way home and dip myself in holy water.. I loved it..


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Wow.

That was positively the most intense movie I've watched in a long time. I cringed more then I think I ever have in any movie. I'm not usually too affected by these types of gore-flicks but this just was over the edge.

Anyway, great, great film. The writing has improved dramatically from the first film, the acting was mostly good, though Amanda had some pretty bad acting at some points. The twist was fantastic though it was a lot more far-fetched then any of the others. It was cool though, as it increased the scope of Jigsaw's games quite dramatically.

I think this will end up as my second favorite in the series. A-


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I found the story terrible, boring and tired, this is one of the worst films of the year, i saw the twist coming a mile away, and the deaths were nothing impressive.

*1/2 /****


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They did it again. Yet another great Saw movie with an ending that is just as great as the previoius films. That surgery scene even made me a little squeemish (which is hard to do). Can't wait to see how they make Saw IV!!

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it seemed like it was quite a bit gorier than the previous 2. i liked it but the ending was kinda stupid.

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I fuckin loved this film. Gory, intense, well written, beautifully acted by all and I have to say that Tobin Bell has been one of my faves over the years with his minor performances in films like Mississippi Burning, The Firm and Malice. And Shawnee Smith goes back as far as Summer School as the pregnant girl whom Shoop helps out. And how about Bahar Soomekh, who was beautiful in Crash. I know these films are more known for their gore and such, but the casting for this film is top notch. As for the story itself, what a rush.

I realize the Jigsaw and Amanda dying pretty much prevents there from being a fourth and I hope there isn't. This is a perfect way to end it. Also, the fact that it shows that Jigsaw really wasn't a murderer, so to speak, is very cool.

It's a great trilogy and I certainly hope they don't ruin a good thing. The finale is about the best finale of perhaps any horror film, definitely the best explanation of a killer and his/her motives ever. I just love this film.

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I fuckin loved this film. Gory, intense, well written, beautifully acted by all and I have to say that Tobin Bell has been one of my faves over the years with his minor performances in films like Mississippi Burning, The Firm and Malice. And Shawnee Smith goes back as far as Summer School as the pregnant girl whom Shoop helps out. And how about Bahar Soomekh, who was beautiful in Crash. I know these films are more known for their gore and such, but the casting for this film is top notch. As for the story itself, what a rush.

I realize the Jigsaw and Amanda dying pretty much prevents there from being a fourth and I hope there isn't. This is a perfect way to end it. Also, the fact that it shows that Jigsaw really wasn't a murderer, so to speak, is very cool.

It's a great trilogy and I certainly hope they don't ruin a good thing. The finale is about the best finale of perhaps any horror film, definitely the best explanation of a killer and his/her motives ever. I just love this film.

9/10


It was good and highlight for SPOILERS: SAW IV is a done deal..


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I absolutely loved it, which surprised me, I liked the second one, but I liked this one more.


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A bit disappointing, and the weakest of the trilogy for me. I'm not usually bothered by gore, if it has a stylistic or narrative reason for being in the film, but some of the stuff in this film seemed there just to gross out the audience (like the brain surgery). The devices weren't as interesting this time around, mostly because they had no way to get out of them (though I guess that was the point). The beginning felt very choppy, and didn't flow well into the rest of the film. It seemed to be there just to resolve the stuff from the last film. The main story was alright, the twist wasn't as shocking as I thought it would be - I knew how it was all gonna play out once all the characters were introduced. The relationship between Jigsaw and Amanda was intriguing, though I would've like some more flashbacks into the behind-the-scenes stuff of the first two films. Pretty intense at times, but not as well-written as the first two. The very end was killer (pun intended), but not really logical. All in all, it was okay, but not great.

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I really, really like the style of the crew of these films, and I can't wait to see what the same filmmakers could do with a subject matter that's a little more pleasant. That said, it was a really fun movie with a lot of little side plots and bits that I loved (Donnie Wahlberg, the "making" of the first two films etc) brought down somewhat by a ridiculously stupid ending. [spoil]eff not being able to pick up a hint despite going through all these other challenges with similar hints didn't bother me that much. Maybe he was too pissed off to think things through. But how the hell is Amanda, who knows Jigsaw so intimately, not able to pick up on a hint that killing the doctor is a bad idea? Worst of all was the wife not making any attempt to stop her husband from "killing" Jigsaw, that was just ridiculous. Since when does getting shot mean you're not able to communicate, not even through movement? [/spoil]Maybe I was just expecting the twist to be somewhat on par with the last film, but I thought the ending to this movie was a huge step down from the last two. The ending music's impact was also deluded by being used in every single scene. B


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Hmm well just saw it, and while I liked it more than the 2nd film, I think on later viewings this will go on to be the weakest of the series. The acting was good and behind the movie moments "looking back" was very well done. Though something about it made it weaker for me. The deaths were good, but not all that imaginative as the others, though the fact that there was no way out kinda hurt the movie for me.

Plus I found this time to predict the twist and so I left without the shocked feeling. And I found the final part of the film to be very forced and just didnt make sense.

I'll give it a B- for now after the 2nd with a low B and the first with an A-.

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How did it not make sense?


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How did it not make sense?


The way I mean it didnt make sense is that Amanda is so smart and couldn't put two and two together that he was testing her. Also the fact that the father could forgive everyone, including the one who killed his son, and yet killed jigsaw, who offered nothing but to save his wife and to walk out alive. By it didn't make sense, I meant to me because it was forced.

These were my main gripes with the film
- They didnt show what happened to Donnie Wahlberg's character, Amanda walked away and he was still alive, so did he survive?
- As imaginative as the deaths were, Jigsaw's becoming repatative, a lot of times the people aren't bad, they have just become reckless, and his reasoning is becoming more and more the same.
- And I dont get Amanda being a crazy bitch this time around. She was in love with Jigsaw in the 2nd film, or at least completely faithful to his thoughts.
- The movie kind of went against Jigsaw's principle in the fact that he murdered innocent people. Now before you say, That was Amanda, I'm talking about killing the daughter at the end for no reason, and involving the judge who did nothing but follow the law.

With that being said, the direction is simply superb in all of the films, and they are highly entertaining, if Ill admit they are getting worst in my opinion. Its still leagues above Friday the 13th, chucky, Hellraiser, but its still well below other horror franchises for me.

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The way I mean it didnt make sense is that Amanda is so smart and couldn't put two and two together that he was testing her


It's not about where Amanda realized it was her game or not. She couldn't put aside her personal emotions.

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They didnt show what happened to Donnie Wahlberg's character, Amanda walked away and he was still alive, so did he survive?


The movie pretty explicitly states she left him for dead and that Jigsaw killed him to protect her. Why wasn't this shown? It was widely rumored Donnie Wahlberg walked off the film before finishing his scenes.

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As imaginative as the deaths were, Jigsaw's becoming repatative, a lot of times the people aren't bad, they have just become reckless, and his reasoning is becoming more and more the same.


What was so bad about Adam in Saw?

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The movie kind of went against Jigsaw's principle in the fact that he murdered innocent people. Now before you say, That was Amanda, I'm talking about killing the daughter at the end for no reason, and involving the judge who did nothing but follow the law.


What did Zepp do? Jigsaw had no problem forcing Zepp into killing Dr. Gordon's family if Adam wasn't killed.


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Interesting (and very believable) about Donnie Wahlberg walking off in the film. My problem with the ending was just that people got ridiculously stupid. I can believe Amanda let her emotions get in the way, and I can believe she had totally lost it too. What I can't believe is that someone who has seen Jigsaw trick people so many times by not listening directly to him would go ahead and make the same mistake. He was telling her over and over that four people's lives would all be destroyed if she killed her, and she knew that her very angry and armed husband was about to be in the same room as them, and she kills his wife anyways? That's almost as dumb as Jeff's wife not making any attempt to communicate to Jeff that her head will explode if he kills Jigsaw. What's worse, by having Jigsaw live through to Saw IV, it makes this ending feel like a cheat.


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Interesting (and very believable) about Donnie Wahlberg walking off in the film. My problem with the ending was just that people got ridiculously stupid. I can believe Amanda let her emotions get in the way, and I can believe she had totally lost it too. What I can't believe is that someone who has seen Jigsaw trick people so many times by not listening directly to him would go ahead and make the same mistake. He was telling her over and over that four people's lives would all be destroyed if she killed her, and she knew that her very angry and armed husband was about to be in the same room as them, and she kills his wife anyways? That's almost as dumb as Jeff's wife not making any attempt to communicate to Jeff that her head will explode if he kills Jigsaw. What's worse, by having Jigsaw live through to Saw IV, it makes this ending feel like a cheat.


Amanda knew that a very angry and armed man wouldsoon be in the room, she didn't know it was Lynn's husband, though Jigsaw comments about 4 people should have given her hte hint, and really its five people if you think about the little kid.

Jigsaw shouldn;t live through Saw IV, but Lionsgate will continue with the serious with the original creators, so that will likely lead to continuity problems, etc. I'm not gonna fualt Saw III for the greenlighting of Saw IV. The terrible SW prequels don't change my opinion about the OT, but I see your point.

I can see some of the complaints about Saw III, but when I am entertianed I am less picky, its when I am bored that I nitpick, and here I was entertained enough that overall the film worked in spite of any problems.


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Interesting (and very believable) about Donnie Wahlberg walking off in the film. My problem with the ending was just that people got ridiculously stupid. I can believe Amanda let her emotions get in the way, and I can believe she had totally lost it too. What I can't believe is that someone who has seen Jigsaw trick people so many times by not listening directly to him would go ahead and make the same mistake. He was telling her over and over that four people's lives would all be destroyed if she killed her, and she knew that her very angry and armed husband was about to be in the same room as them, and she kills his wife anyways? That's almost as dumb as Jeff's wife not making any attempt to communicate to Jeff that her head will explode if he kills Jigsaw. What's worse, by having Jigsaw live through to Saw IV, it makes this ending feel like a cheat.


Amanda knew that a very angry and armed man wouldsoon be in the room, she didn't know it was Lynn's husband, though Jigsaw comments about 4 people should have given her hte hint, and really its five people if you think about the little kid.

Jigsaw shouldn;t live through Saw IV, but Lionsgate will continue with the serious with the original creators, so that will likely lead to continuity problems, etc. I'm not gonna fualt Saw III for the greenlighting of Saw IV. The terrible SW prequels don't change my opinion about the OT, but I see your point.

I can see some of the complaints about Saw III, but when I am entertianed I am less picky, its when I am bored that I nitpick, and here I was entertained enough that overall the film worked in spite of any problems.


Y'know I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these Saw sequels took place before the end of this film. The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre showed how often prequels can flop, but based on how well this movie did without showing off any of plot in the trailers they could definately pull it off. That's my mistake about it not being her husband but there's no reason she wouldn't have heeded his warnings after seeing what happened when Det. Matthews didn't. I'd never normally fault a film for it's sequel but in this case it was clear that everyone involved fully planned on making Saw IV. I agree about it being much harder to nitpick a movie when it engages me. I just get annoyed when characters become completely illogical just to make the twist work.


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Interesting (and very believable) about Donnie Wahlberg walking off in the film. My problem with the ending was just that people got ridiculously stupid. I can believe Amanda let her emotions get in the way, and I can believe she had totally lost it too. What I can't believe is that someone who has seen Jigsaw trick people so many times by not listening directly to him would go ahead and make the same mistake. He was telling her over and over that four people's lives would all be destroyed if she killed her, and she knew that her very angry and armed husband was about to be in the same room as them, and she kills his wife anyways? That's almost as dumb as Jeff's wife not making any attempt to communicate to Jeff that her head will explode if he kills Jigsaw. What's worse, by having Jigsaw live through to Saw IV, it makes this ending feel like a cheat.


Amanda knew that a very angry and armed man wouldsoon be in the room, she didn't know it was Lynn's husband, though Jigsaw comments about 4 people should have given her hte hint, and really its five people if you think about the little kid.

Jigsaw shouldn;t live through Saw IV, but Lionsgate will continue with the serious with the original creators, so that will likely lead to continuity problems, etc. I'm not gonna fualt Saw III for the greenlighting of Saw IV. The terrible SW prequels don't change my opinion about the OT, but I see your point.

I can see some of the complaints about Saw III, but when I am entertianed I am less picky, its when I am bored that I nitpick, and here I was entertained enough that overall the film worked in spite of any problems.


Y'know I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these Saw sequels took place before the end of this film. The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre showed how often prequels can flop, but based on how well this movie did without showing off any of plot in the trailers they could definately pull it off. That's my mistake about it not being her husband but there's no reason she wouldn't have heeded his warnings after seeing what happened when Det. Matthews didn't. I'd never normally fault a film for it's sequel but in this case it was clear that everyone involved fully planned on making Saw IV. I agree about it being much harder to nitpick a movie when it engages me. I just get annoyed when characters become completely illogical just to make the twist work.


I thgoutht he doctor should have said something as well, but I attributed it to shock, like as her husband wlaked in she suddenly understood, combine that with pain and you might not react either. As for Amanda, she was more obsssed with Jigsaw then in love with him, she tranferred her drug obseesion onto him, so I suppose i could se eher missing his warnings, she's may feel like she past all the tests.

Did they really plan on a Saw IV, niether Wan or Whannell or involved, nor is Bousman. I think IV is more the studio, seeing as the ending of Saw III is clear place ot end the serious, but if the have Tobin Bell and they do, people will come.


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Interesting (and very believable) about Donnie Wahlberg walking off in the film. My problem with the ending was just that people got ridiculously stupid. I can believe Amanda let her emotions get in the way, and I can believe she had totally lost it too. What I can't believe is that someone who has seen Jigsaw trick people so many times by not listening directly to him would go ahead and make the same mistake. He was telling her over and over that four people's lives would all be destroyed if she killed her, and she knew that her very angry and armed husband was about to be in the same room as them, and she kills his wife anyways? That's almost as dumb as Jeff's wife not making any attempt to communicate to Jeff that her head will explode if he kills Jigsaw. What's worse, by having Jigsaw live through to Saw IV, it makes this ending feel like a cheat.


Thats not true, The rumor was a publicity stunt to help suprise fans that Donnie Wahlburg was actually in the movie. Donnie has said so in recent interviews.

One more thing, Amanda didnt know that they were husband and wife.

And Dark Shape, agree or disagree, Adam, who wasnt bad either, but gained money through others troubles, and Zepp was someone who had another problem, I can't remember, probably a shallow of his former self like most of Jigsaw's rants, is much different then a victim, like the little girl. From a serial killer profiler standpoint, it goes against his character of Jigsaw trying to teach his victims the error of their ways. The daughter had nothing to do with that.

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But he still had no problem with murdering Dr. Gordon's daughter should he fail the test, so I don't quite get the hypocrisy of him doing it to Jeff's as well.


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The way I mean it didnt make sense is that Amanda is so smart and couldn't put two and two together that he was testing her. Also the fact that the father could forgive everyone, including the one who killed his son, and yet killed jigsaw, who offered nothing but to save his wife and to walk out alive. By it didn't make sense, I meant to me because it was forced.

These were my main gripes with the film
- They didnt show what happened to Donnie Wahlberg's character, Amanda walked away and he was still alive, so did he survive?
- As imaginative as the deaths were, Jigsaw's becoming repatative, a lot of times the people aren't bad, they have just become reckless, and his reasoning is becoming more and more the same.
- And I dont get Amanda being a crazy bitch this time around. She was in love with Jigsaw in the 2nd film, or at least completely faithful to his thoughts.
- The movie kind of went against Jigsaw's principle in the fact that he murdered innocent people. Now before you say, That was Amanda, I'm talking about killing the daughter at the end for no reason, and involving the judge who did nothing but follow the law.

With that being said, the direction is simply superb in all of the films, and they are highly entertaining, if Ill admit they are getting worst in my opinion. Its still leagues above Friday the 13th, chucky, Hellraiser, but its still well below other horror franchises for me.


Jesus, dude you read wayyy too much into movie's like this for your own good..


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