Who will start the next world war?
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Dr. Lecter
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On a serious note:
I don't think that any country will start a world war anytime soon. They are smarter than that.
IF I had to name a possible candidate, I'd probably go with North Korea, though.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:12 pm |
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bABA
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rusty wrote: Krem wrote: rusty wrote: That's what pisses me off about Europe and Asia. It's territory isn't clearly defined like the rest of the world. We all know where North and South (central too I guess) start and finish but not europe and asia. It should just be one huge block. We know exactly where Europe and Asia are divided (Ural mountains, then the Caucusus and then Istanbul). The point about Russia and Turkey is that the majority of their land is located in Asia, but the most important parts of the countries are in Europe (less so with Turkey, but still). So Russia has always considered itself to be a part of Europe, and not Asia. I bet it's the same with Turkey. But every other place has a body of water that shows a clear seperation. For europe and asia all you got is a mountain range. They should flood the area around the ural so there can be a body of water there.
well i'm sorry if europe and asia decided not to follow tradition and stick their land to each other!
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:14 pm |
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Box
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Dr. Lecter wrote: IF I had to name a possible candidate, I'd probably go with North Korea, though.
I don't see how North Korea would cause a world war. Who is on their side if they drop a bomb on Japan or S. Korea? China? Ya, right, as if they would want to compromise their business deals with Europe and America. I don't see anyone backing up North Korea at all.
My main worry is Tokyo. How safe is Japan against a North Korean missile? Tokyo not only has 28-33m people, it's economy is somewhere between $1-1.5 Trillion, so the economic impact could be tremendous.
There is one conflict which worries me (though I don't think it will cause a World War). Taiwan. The US has promised to protect Taiwan at all costs, and with China claiming it as part of itself, that could spell trouble. Especially since the Iraq war was an instance where the US declared war on a country that did not provoke it. If the US can do that, what reasoning could it use against China, which claims Taiwan as part of itself?
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:18 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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box_2005 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: IF I had to name a possible candidate, I'd probably go with North Korea, though.
I don't see how North Korea would cause a world war. Who is on their side if they drop a bomb on Japan or S. Korea? China? Ya, right, as if they would want to compromise their business deals with Europe and America. I don't see anyone backing up North Korea at all. My main worry is Tokyo. How safe is Japan against a North Korean missile? Tokyo not only has 28-33m people, it's economy is somewhere between $1-1.5 Trillion, so the economic impact could be tremendous. There is one conflict which worries me (though I don't think it will cause a World War). Taiwan. The US has promised to protect Taiwan at all costs, and with China claiming it as part of itself, that could spell trouble. Especially since the Iraq war was an instance where the US declared war on a country that did not provoke it. If the US can do that, what reasoning could it use against China, which claims Taiwan as part of itself?
That's why I had a big bold IF in there. The only country that can start a World War is the one that has nuclear potential and I just don't see any other starting it. Maybe Iran, but they are making a step in the right direction at the moment.
China has a blooming economy at the moment, I see no reason for a war.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:23 pm |
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Shad
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Krem wrote: Saying that the killing of Franz Ferdinand started the WW1 is about as honest as saying that the Poles' invasion into Germany started WW2.
There'd be no war if the powers that be hadn't already commited to it.
Sure, the stage may have already been set by the complex web of alliances and counterbalances that developed between the various European powers during the 19th century but what ultimately triggered the war was Franz Ferdinand's assassination. That is what historians generally consider to be the beginning of World War I.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:55 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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The assassination of Franz Ferdinand was a welcome excuse to start the war.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:38 pm |
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Bodrul
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I doubt North Korea, probably India/Pakistan, followed by one in the middle East, possibly Iran or Israel/Palestine
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:21 pm |
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bABA
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hans wrote: I doubt North Korea, probably India/Pakistan, followed by one in the middle East, possibly Iran or Israel/Palestine
while the potential for a world war to be sparked in the indopak region exists, with a little bit of common sense on the part of the 2 countries, that will be avoided. both countries have enough to hurt the other one really really really badly even before another country gets a chance to even take sides. and both sadly, are extremely trigger happy as well.
It could happen but hopefully, i dont see it happening in the near future.
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:32 pm |
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Bodrul
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Token Brown Dude wrote: hans wrote: I doubt North Korea, probably India/Pakistan, followed by one in the middle East, possibly Iran or Israel/Palestine while the potential for a world war to be sparked in the indopak region exists, with a little bit of common sense on the part of the 2 countries, that will be avoided. both countries have enough to hurt the other one really really really badly even before another country gets a chance to even take sides. and both sadly, are extremely trigger happy as well. It could happen but hopefully, i dont see it happening in the near future.
It will not be on a world war scale, but significant nonetheless
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:39 pm |
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bABA
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if it happens ... yes ... it will be bad .... specially if you start considering the regions around the 2 countries and their political relations
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:47 pm |
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baumer72
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I think Luembourg, Lichtenstein and Papua New Guinea are plotting against the rest of the world as we speak.
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:17 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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baumer72 wrote: I think Luembourg, Lichtenstein and Papua New Guinea are plotting against the rest of the world as we speak.
What about Sam Marino and Andorra? :?
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:18 pm |
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baumer72
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I forgot about them Doc. I think they are in cahoots as well as Kazakhstan and Iceland. 
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:26 pm |
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Shad
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baumer72 wrote: I forgot about them Doc. I think they are in cahoots as well as Kazakhstan and Iceland. 
Yeah, it's just too bad we don't have an army, having been a neutral country throughout the ages. That is certainly a catch that will make it much harder for us to start the next world war. But I've no doubt we'll manage. We'll probably achieve this through nonviolence, much in the vein of Gandhi. We'll just use psychological warfare instead! 
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:07 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Exactly how many countries have to be involved for the war to be considered a WORLD war? I've always wondered.
The answer to this would decide what country I think would "start" a world war, because sure, there are a lot of countries that could start a war, but not a "world war".
PEACE, Mike 
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