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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22199 Location: Places
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 United 93 Deserves a Best Picture Nomination
Just saw this..............wow. never been so moved before. ever.
Paul Greengrass deserves immense praise; screenwriting and directing nomiations should defiently go his way-ESPECIALLY the directing of the film was incredible. SO real and gut wrenching.
watching it you really felt THERE. Its such a good movie, easily better then BOBBY or anything else, i cant believe it. its so ridiculous. now iuve just gotta see world trade center.....
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:05 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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I don't think it deserves one, but I can see why it would get one. I wouldn't mind if it did, but I didn't find it Best Picture material. Most of the emotion is derived from the events portrayed, rather than the movie's portrayal of them.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:04 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if it did. It doesn't sound like all these potential nominees are getting the rave reviews some expected. United 93 could be another Crash, with its early release date, September DVD release, and a potentially heavy Oscar campaign.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:09 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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If any of the 9/11 movies deserve it, United 93 is the film. But, I feel if there is a 9/11 film nominated, it'll be World Trade Center, unfortunately.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:26 pm |
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Anonymous
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no no no no no.
can't happen, won't happen
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:23 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Yes. Yes, it does.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:57 pm |
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Anonymous
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I've had enough of trite, manipulative, underwhelming films being nominated for BP.
It's sickening.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:04 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I've had enough of trite, manipulative, underwhelming films being nominated for BP.
It's sickening.
Hahaha Loyal it's so funny that you are literally the only person I've seen express this sort of opinion about U93. I mean, obviously Crash had its legion of haters here, but you're the only one who doesn't support U93.
*cue Debbie Downer music*
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:17 pm |
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Anonymous
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Libs wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: I've had enough of trite, manipulative, underwhelming films being nominated for BP.
It's sickening. Hahaha Loyal it's so funny that you are literally the only person I've seen express this sort of opinion about U93. I mean, obviously Crash had its legion of haters here, but you're the only one who doesn't support U93. *cue Debbie Downer music*
I'm a trend setter AND a website owner.
Deadly combo indeed.
*cue ominous music*
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:20 pm |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Libs wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: I've had enough of trite, manipulative, underwhelming films being nominated for BP.
It's sickening. Hahaha Loyal it's so funny that you are literally the only person I've seen express this sort of opinion about U93. I mean, obviously Crash had its legion of haters here, but you're the only one who doesn't support U93. *cue Debbie Downer music* I'm a trend setter AND a website owner. Deadly combo indeed. *cue ominous music*
Get out of here, and take that A you gave to Lady in the Water with you.
And yup, it absolutely does deserve one, and we'd have to have a fucking terrific winter at the movies for it to not get a nomination.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:44 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Aaahhh....No.
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:47 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Loyal gave Lady in the Water an A and hates U93?
That's idiotic, man 
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:54 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40535
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I have it sitting upstairs right now, I was going to watch it tonight but my friends dragged me out to Step Up... Tomorrow will be the day.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:58 am |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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I refused to watch U93. As alot of people directly compared it to Crash as a movie that is very emotional, but behind it, it's not that good.
Thus... I didn't want to watch another Crash. And I haven't.
And I also gave Lady in the Water an A.
Maybe Loyal and I are twins?!?
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:46 am |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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I don't get the comparison to Crash except for when talking about its chance at Oscar (and there are not a lot of similarities there either). The emotion U93 generates is raw and hardly manipulative. It's a powerful movie regardless if it's based on a real event.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:54 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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xiayun wrote: I don't get the comparison to Crash...
Didn't you stay for the ending?
Yeah, it was good as a propoganda movie, but hardly Oscar material -- though political manipulation will be in full force to twist academy voters arms for this one...
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:21 am |
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Anonymous
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ChipMunky wrote: I refused to watch U93. As alot of people directly compared it to Crash as a movie that is very emotional, but behind it, it's not that good.
Thus... I didn't want to watch another Crash. And I haven't.
And I also gave Lady in the Water an A.
Maybe Loyal and I are twins?!?
UA93 wouldn't be the worst movie ever nominated for BP in recent memory. But it would be one of the most undeserving.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:44 am |
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Dkmuto
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Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 6502
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ChipMunky wrote: I refused to watch U93. As alot of people directly compared it to Crash as a movie that is very emotional, but behind it, it's not that good.
Thus... I didn't want to watch another Crash. And I haven't.
And I also gave Lady in the Water an A.
Maybe Loyal and I are twins?!?
By a lot of people comparing it to Crash, you mean, like... 2?
The elements that undermine United 93's emotional intensity (that those deriding it claim it to have) are completely different from those that undermined Crash.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:48 pm |
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Anonymous
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They're both shit. Just packaged differently.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:55 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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If I see it... I'm sure I'll like it initially... but I liked Crash initially too...
I HATE Crash now...
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:16 pm |
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makeshift
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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I watched it again the other day...
The first hour or is fucking terrible cinema. It's a bunch of really bad actors screaming about blinking green dots on computer screens while the camera operator appears to be having some sort of epileptic fit. It gets better during the final act when it finally gains some focus, though.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:21 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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makeshift wrote: I watched it again the other day...
The first hour or is fucking terrible cinema. It's a bunch of really bad actors screaming about blinking green dots on computer screens while the camera operator appears to be having some sort of epileptic fit. It gets better during the final act when it finally gains some focus, though.
Interesting, considering that several of those people screaming at green dots are played by people who do this job for real.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:00 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: I watched it again the other day...
The first hour or is fucking terrible cinema. It's a bunch of really bad actors screaming about blinking green dots on computer screens while the camera operator appears to be having some sort of epileptic fit. It gets better during the final act when it finally gains some focus, though. Interesting, considering that several of those people screaming at green dots are played by people who do this job for real.
And that makes them qualified to peform that role in a film?
Using this logic, a Taco Bell employee would have definitely given a better performance than any of the cast members in Clerks II.
U93 is a prime example of stunt casting backfiring.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:06 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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makeshift wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: I watched it again the other day...
The first hour or is fucking terrible cinema. It's a bunch of really bad actors screaming about blinking green dots on computer screens while the camera operator appears to be having some sort of epileptic fit. It gets better during the final act when it finally gains some focus, though. Interesting, considering that several of those people screaming at green dots are played by people who do this job for real. And that makes them qualified to peform that role in a film? Using this logic, a Taco Bell employee would have definitely given a better performance than any of the cast members in Clerks II.
Um, if the Taco Bell employee was supposed to behave like a normal Taco Bell employee, why not? The point of Kevin Smith films is not being normal usually, though. Those folks in U93 were supposed to be authentic and I don't think anyone can be more authentic at a job than the people actually working this very job. It is not like the movie tried (or was supposed) to show something non-authetic, something that had to be acted. Trying to argue that appear ridiculous to me.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:09 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
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Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: makeshift wrote: I watched it again the other day...
The first hour or is fucking terrible cinema. It's a bunch of really bad actors screaming about blinking green dots on computer screens while the camera operator appears to be having some sort of epileptic fit. It gets better during the final act when it finally gains some focus, though. Interesting, considering that several of those people screaming at green dots are played by people who do this job for real. And that makes them qualified to peform that role in a film? Using this logic, a Taco Bell employee would have definitely given a better performance than any of the cast members in Clerks II. Um, if the Taco Bell employee was supposed to behave like a normal Taco Bell employee, why not? The point of Kevin Smith films is not being normal usually, though. Those folks in U93 were supposed to be authentic and I don't think anyone can be more authentic at a job than the people actually working this very job. It is not like the movie tried (or was supposed) to show something non-authetic, something that had to be acted. Trying to argue that appear ridiculous to me.
Thing is, they weren't behaving like normal employees in U93. I'd hardly call 9/11 a normal day for the aviation community.
Even if their job was to just act like they do everyday (which it wasn't), they still have to be able to deliver lines, hit their marks, etc...
I fail to see how being experienced in a certain profession automatically makes you qualified to perform that profession in a film.
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:14 pm |
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