I am so tiredof being told I come down to hard on this film, my opinion of Crash has not changed since day 1, so really I amnot coming down hard on it. This has always been my opinion, jesus. Its not some new hate, its not some band wagon. I've alwyas thought this was ashit movie, and I am not goign to change mind even other other person in the world disagrees.

I agree with Ripper here. From what I read, nobody here really changed their opinion about Crash that drasitcally just because it won best picture. Ripper, andaroo, Dolce, and loyal have been express their hates toward Crash since day one. They happen to be some of the more active members in the forum, so the voice felt louder, but they have debated about the film with intelligence since the beginning. There are also a lot of others like me, who liked Crash but loved Brokeback, and we still feel the same way and basically expressed our displeasure that it didn't go to a more deserving picture (in our opinion). And some prefer Munich over Crash, and all are legit. Somehow I'm feeling it's Crash's supporters who are going a little overboard with the reactions here, but I can understand that.

I'll bump this thread in a month and prove Kill wrong, because he's stupid.

A Best Picture winner not being remembered in a month.

Yes, that makes complete sense.

She's coming around, guys.

She's finally coming around.

Heh, sike.

And I thought you were a fan of Crash.

Regarding Shakespeare, how can a movie be the biggest upset ever if it wins 3 Globes, it has 13 nominations, not to mention the SAG and the WGA?


And please, don't mention Revenge of the Sith...

Crash won't be remembered in a month? I'll bet you also said Crash won't be remembered come awards season because it was
released in early May, huh?

Crash was well liked, and in many cases, passionately LOVED, by the majority of people. It will long be remembered in a positive light!

BUMP.

I remembered Crash today.

I watched Crash the other day actually.

Watched it as well lately for the 3rd time.

Its impact is horribly diminished by repeat viewings. I loved it when I saw it in cinema's but its sledgehammer lack of subtlety becomes glaringly aparent the more times you watch. It doesn't age well.

I think Kilo was exaggerating just a bit.

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I'll just quote me. Im right, you see anyone screaming masterpiece or classic for this film? It was just a whatever year for the Oscars, it's not a film that stays with people or means much. It happens alot, not just with Crash.

I beg to differ. I have seen it three times as well and the impact is still there, only I see it a bit differently. I did notice the issues many people had with it (caricature characters, unlikely coincidences, little subtlety), but I view the film as a methaphor and methaphors do not usually have a great degree of subtlety, so I am fine with it. After three viewings, I am still sure that I like the film a whole lot.

But how many films does that really happen to? I'd say a spot in IMDB's Top 100 shows that there is a fair share of people who do like it a whole lot. Not that I think it deserves to be there, but it's a fact that many many people like it or love it, masterpiece or not. It should at least stick around for longer than Chicago and A Beautiful Mind...

I remember Crash. I also remember the time I shit my pants at Sesame Place, a nearby children's water park.

Crash just proved that smart people sometimes love bad films.

Or that we sometimes enjoy being spoon fed morality and social commentary without any need for us to stretch our brains.

I'll plead guilty to being like that the first time I saw it.

at least you're willing to admit it.

I will too.

I still haven't rewatched it since May/June from last year... and I probably won't for the next few months...

Munich was robbed!

Were the Police informed? We should get Tony on the case with Groucho on prosecution.

Crash was just over some people's heads. No big deal, it happens.

I second that.