Big Brother Allstars Spoiler Thread: Feeds, Etc.
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MikeQ.
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Mr. X wrote: It didn't even clue in to me before this, but the prom crap will factor in on the HOH competition.
Yep, and Big Bro fans across the internet voted like crazy for Howie for Prom King, since the Prom King or Queen apparently has an advantage in the HOH competition (or some sort of aid/help). Janelle is almost assuredly going to win Prom Queen, because she is clearly the favourite female in the house, but she can't play for HOH. So all of the fans have threw their help to Howie, so he can win Prom King. I think it will go to Will though (Prom King Will and Prom Queen Janelle - surprise surprise).
I bet that the questions we got to vote for on the website will play into the HOH competition (ex. "Who is the best dresser?", "Who is the most likely to die alone?" and such). My guess is the houseguests will be asked who America voted to win each "award" for the prom, and those will be the HOH questions. I think it makes sense. Some houseguests will be surprised by the correct answers (I bet James will win "Most likely to die alone", or at least hope he does).
PEACE, Mike.
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:51 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I've been thinking a lot about this Coup. I can't help but assume that this power isn't going to be so huge that the winner will evict someone on the spot. That's too much power for one person.
My best guess: The Coup holder can take BOTH nominees off the block, thus overthrowing what the HOH wants. I don't honestly think the Coup holder can replace two people though, because that just renders the HOH powers useless. I also don't think it's the power to take just one person off, because that renders the veto useless.
Guesses that I think are wrong: Nullifying eviction votes. That really doesn't overthrow the HOH, it overthrows the entire house.
Taking someone off the block/evicting someone on the spot: The former is basically a glorified Power of Veto, while the latter is WAY WAY too much power for one person to hold. The former is kinda overthrowing the HOH, while the latter isn't overthrowing the HOH at all. It's just evicting someone.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:05 am |
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MikeQ.
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Man, the Coup d'Etat twist is SO cool. The best twist yet I think on the Big Brother show. Finally a real twist!
Regarding super detailed explanation of the Coup d'Etat on tonight's show (possible super spoilers if you haven't seen it yet):
[spoil]Yes! Janelle can't be screwed over. I was wondering about this all week. I was wondering whether the coup d'etat winner could even put up the HOH and POV winner on the block if they were to overthrow the HOH in a certain week. In other words, I thought the Coup d'Etat winner could put up ANYBODY. But it turns out you CANNOT. BB chooses to respect the work it took to win HOH or the POV, so those winners are safe no matter what. Thank goodness.
By the way, I was totally wrong about the winner not knowing what the power was. I (as well as other BB fans) interpreted her earlier comments as saying the winner would not even know what it is. Sorry guys.
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PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:44 pm |
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MikeQ.
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*SPOILERS*
Okay, I'm assuming that anyone in here is willing to be spoiled. This is the spoilers thread! I shouldn't have to use spoiler tags.
On to tonight's show: holy crap! What a show.
Boogie wins the Coup d'Etat and it was completely explained in great detail. He chooses not to use it this week.
It is explained to us that it is a double eviction week!
And then, the most shocking of all, GEORGE of all people wins HOH.
AND AND AND... it's not over.... he puts JAMES and ERIKA on the block!!!
Wow.
Wow.
PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:58 pm |
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newfoundglorysp
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yay no janie on the block :]
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm |
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I think this will be another week that the coup is not used. Why would Mike want to change the nominations, when James could be leaving? I actually think that George's nominations are the best of the game so far. Good work George!
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:31 pm |
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Chris
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Mike only has two more evictions to use it...Saturday and next Thursday, then it's gone. Janelle needs to get POV and then HOH/POV next to survive.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:41 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Chris wrote: Mike only has two more evictions to use it...Saturday and next Thursday, then it's gone. Janelle needs to get POV and then HOH/POV next to survive.
I doubt Boogie is going to use it this week (or this half week I should say). The only way he would use it this eviction is if someone wins the POV and takes James or Erika off and one of Woogie is in danger. Then he would most definately use it. Otherwise, him using it is a complete waste. They have they votes to oust Erika and save James (Woogie + Danielle to evict Erika). Erika and James just aren't worth using the Coup D'Etat, I don't see it.
It's the 2nd half of this week that Janelle needs HOH or the POV, or else I think she is done for.
George winning it this week is pretty amazing for Janelle and Howie. Howie and Janelle are safe so far, and George takes heat, taking some off of the Sovs. George didn't nominate Howie or Janelle because Howie is the one person in the house who has been buddies with him, and Janelle spared him last week and doesn't feed him BS. Now James is pissed, and says he wants to put George and Howie up next eviction if he wins. lol. He's Mr. Flip Flop, and he's ready to implode. George also said when Danielle asked him if he is trying to backdoor Janelle, that it was never his intention. He may be talked into if the POV is used, but I dunno. We'll see.
PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:00 pm |
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MovieGeek
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Holy crap! what a good show! I'm so glad with George winning. And I'm glad he put up James and Ericka. I also don't think Boogie won't use it. He is there for Himself and Will. He will not save those to. George needs the veto to keep the nominations as they are.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Libs
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Am I the only one who doesn't really...understand the motivation behind George's nominations?
Other than the fact that James is a douche. I would truly enjoy seeing him getting evicted, but there is no way Erika would have the votes.
I have to say that I'm glad Marcellas is gone, though. Also that Janelle/Howie didn't win HOH so they couldn't nominate Danielle, who I'm pretty much rooting for along with Evil Dr. Will now.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:58 am |
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Libs wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't really...understand the motivation behind George's nominations?
Other than the fact that James is a douche. I would truly enjoy seeing him getting evicted, but there is no way Erika would have the votes.
I have to say that I'm glad Marcellas is gone, though. Also that Janelle/Howie didn't win HOH so they couldn't nominate Danielle, who I'm pretty much rooting for along with Evil Dr. Will now.
Well, only one player has really put up George, and that was James. Also, Marcellas brought up a good point about Erika in this episode, everytime she wants to kick someone out of a competition, its George. She does this so that she doesn't cause much of a scene, but for George, its clear that he did take it personal. Erika sweet talks him, but when it comes down to it, Erika hasn't done much to push George forward in the game.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:03 am |
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MovieGeek
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He just told boogie that he wants to back door Dani. He feels betrayed.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:04 am |
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Libs
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MovieGeek wrote: He just told boogie that he wants to back door Dani. He feels betrayed.
Uh?
By what?
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:08 am |
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MikeQ.
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Libs wrote: MovieGeek wrote: He just told boogie that he wants to back door Dani. He feels betrayed. Uh? By what?
She led him on to vote to evict Erika, when everyone else was voting to evict Marcellas. He feels she was trying to set him up, and he feels betrayed. I believe he said he would put Danielle up if the POV is used (and not by Danielle). Of course, Boogie is really trying to convince George not to put her up, and he's really talking down to George, telling him everything he should do. Interestingly though, Boogie did not tell Danielle in his report that George said this.
I think his rationale for the nominations are pitch perfect, by the way. He put up James because James already tried to come after him (Remember James had a hissy fit when George saved himself with POV?), and he put up Erika thinking that with her up there, James would easily go. Remember, everyone is in the dark about the whole LOD thing (although not for long if Boogie keeps spilling things to George. He's laying it on thick when talking to George in the HOH room, and he's letting slip some things he shouldn't be. It doesn't look like George is falling for it.)
By the way, George's HOH room is bright yellow and lime green. Hehehe.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:30 am |
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MikeQ.
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POV ceremony happening now; flames up on feeds. In about an hour probably we'll know who the POV winner is (depending on how long the competition takes). I think someone said that it is one of those "one at a time" competitions, where one players goes out at a time to do it. But not positive.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:36 am |
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MovieGeek
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James won POV. GRR.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:47 am |
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Libs
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God, stupid James. Ugh.
It sounds as if Boogie has drilled enough suspect information into CG's head that he's probably going to put up Janelle now. In that case, adios Janelle.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:18 am |
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MikeQ.
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Janelle's going home now. Danielle, Erika, James and Mike all talked about how Janelle has to go up, and in Boogie's case, he even threatened George. Not in a menacing way, but he argued that he knows someone in his group has the power, and that if Chicken George doesn't do what the "house" wants, he's in trouble. They've all manipulated him into putting up Janelle. He promised Janelle and Howie safety this week, so now he is going to break his promise.
Erika and Danielle (yes, Danielle!) are making me sick right now, because they go into the HOH room and tell George they will protect him, that he needs to get rid of Janelle, and they will protect him, and they cry and guilt trip him. And then they go into the next room and talk about how they will put him (Chicken George) on the block next week if they win HOH! Talk about quick and immediate backstabbing. Danielle makes me more upset because she claims to have these higher morals in the game, but Danielle is being the most wretched right now. Why Danielle, why? You're making me dislike you.
I'm so disappointed in everyone, especially Goerge who originally stood his ground and did not take any of Erika and James bullshit. You should have seen George, he was really trying to stick up for himself. But by the time Danielle and Boogie were in, he had completely caved.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:06 am |
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Mister Ecks
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I'm glad to see everyone working over the guy who doesn't honestly know what to do for himself.
If George doesn't put up Janelle, Mike will. The next three days are going to suck.
Boo All-Stars.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:54 am |
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mdana
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George is a little creep. Marcellas gave him a slop pass and George still voted him out. George is not the decent, humble guy he pretends to be on the show. He is a chickensh#t. I want to barf everytime he starts into one of his b.s. spiels.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:20 pm |
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Libs
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mdana wrote: George is a little creep. Marcellas gave him a slop pass and George still voted him out. George is not the decent, humble guy he pretends to be on the show. He is a chickensh#t. I want to barf everytime he starts into one of his b.s. spiels.
Because Marcellas has such a noble, kind heart.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:27 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Well, good news and bad news (well, depending on who you are, it could be reversed). Good news: I read a chat CG had with Janelle today, where he said everyone is gunning for her, especially James, but he does not want to put her up. He's ready to give a big "Fuck you" to everyone else and not put up Janelle. He wants to be with Howie and Janelle, and she agrees to it.
Bad news? Mike has that Coup d'Etat. Over the course of however long it is between the veto ceremony and eviction, Will could convince him not to use it, in case Howie won HOH and put them up. In reality, it's not a good move to use the Coup when neither of Chilltown is on the block (unless of course George puts up either guy in place of James). But, if Mike feels safe enough that Howie won't win HOH (assuming he puts up Janelle and Howie, and Janelle goes), he'll likely use it this Sunday night before eviction.
Essentially, the only way for Howie and Janelle to still be here a week from today, one will have to win the next HOH and the other will have to win the Veto. Unfortunately, they don't know that.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:08 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Of course, CG could just be weighing out options, and might end up turning on Janelle and voting her out.
(on the subject of the Coup) Then again, if Danielle goes up in Janelle's place (not sure if CG would go after her), Mike would be smart not to touch the nominees, because Danielle won't choose CT over anyone else after Howie and Janelle.
And while I'm at it...
My Favorites List Revised:
8. Erika
7. James
6. Danielle
5. Mike
4. Chicken George
3. Will
2. Janelle
1. Howie
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:11 pm |
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Libs
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Apparently Chicken George now wants to put up Will, although Erika is (somewhat pathetically) begging and sobbing for him not to do that since he would never get voted out. Considering how many times CG has changed his mind already, who knows.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:37 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Well, now it appears that it doesn't matter. If CG doesn't do it, Mike will use the Coup. Oh well. I guess Janelle's chances are dwindling.
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