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Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Posts: 2913 Location: Portugal
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 So... is World Trade Center still a contender for Picture?
Right now, it has a 70 rating at RT and it should finish somewhere in the low 70's... but the cream of the crop rating is surprisingly higher for a more "conventional" film (88%) and its metacritic score is 69 with 25 reviews (Crash also got a 69 in the end, I think...). The BFCA score is also quite good (88)
it should at the very least double United 93's box office gross and has a good shot at 100 million.. but will that be enough to consider it as a BP nominee?
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:26 am |
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40260
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Nope. Reviews need to be a bit better than that for the position it's in, and for the most part it's being seem as the convential uplifting flick. Not to mention, Stone will need to work himself up for a few more movies including this, the Alexander bad taste is still there. Honestly I don't think it was ever in the race, there's too much against in the first place anyways, from Stone, to the release date, to U93, and so on.
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:38 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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no but it supposably has flags of our fathers trailer that certainly is 
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:45 am |
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torrino
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:52 pm Posts: 16020
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If it does hit $100m, I'd consider it a contender.
But, unless it does so comfortably (no rereleases or whatever), nope.
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:36 am |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Slant liked it; can't be good news.
The reviews are not strong. No standout performances judging from the consensus, and there is no prestige or default-frontrunner factor like Munich and a few others. I'd say even a Walk the Line type of box office run is likely not going to be enough.
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:40 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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No, but the good thing is that U93 is still game.
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:43 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 pm Posts: 5812
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Dr. Lecter wrote: No, but the good thing is that U93 is still game.
I disagree, as I cannot phanthom a scenario where U93 gets through. People who want to vote for a 9/11 film will vote for either Empty City (depends on how good it is) or World Trade Center (it encompasses qualities more generally found in best picture nominees than U93). Whatever emotional impact one felt with U93, seeing WTC makes U93's impact feel less diminished, so even if one doesn't like WTC, he is less likely to vote for U93 (over, say, a non-9/11 film).
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:24 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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I don't think World Trade Center really has much of chance at this point, but I could be speaking too early.
It's RT score and average continues to drop and is low (even Crash has a higher percentage/rating at this point at RT), at 71% and 6.9 rating overall right now. And the COTC is down to 75% now, no longer a discrepancy. Metacritic is down at 67. A lot of reviews seem to call it conventional and boring and such (but maybe that's not a bad thing). And World Trade Center will always have to live under United 93's shadow since they were closely released together. I saw a few reviews even using United 93 as a comparison. (That being said I believe that United 93 has little chance of striking any Oscar gold either - it'll be a critic's darling, but it doesn't feel like Oscar material.)
All in all, I don't feel any buzz at all. No reviewers immediately calling this a top 10 film of the year or an immediate Oscar contender. Even United 93, which isn't a typical Oscar film at all, got some reviewers to say immediately that the film will be in their top 10 of the year. It just doesn't seem to have a passionate group of supporters. Crash was at least a love it or hate it film (I compare it to Crash only because some people seem to be doing so.)
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:49 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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Babel seems like a smarter push for BP than World Trade Center. (Paramount)
United 93 (which I'm unconvinced will be nominated) is going to have an easier time as a more hardcore, serious film, that will likely get critics awards, than World Trade Center which, as of tonight, seems good but not overwhelmingly positive.
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:53 pm |
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Amer
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:35 pm Posts: 1912 Location: Texas
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I dont think so.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:55 am |
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Levy
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Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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I hope it doesn't even show up in discussions come year's end. United 93 was sooooo much better that WTC shouldn't even be an afterthought.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:37 am |
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