The 'Big Brother: All-Stars' Thread
Author |
Message |
Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
|
Is it me, or is Chicken George in a good position in the house right now? 
|
Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:22 pm |
|
 |
MovieGeek
Grill
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:38 pm Posts: 3682 Location: Here
|
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JAMES!!!!
_________________ i'm back
|
Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:27 pm |
|
 |
O
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:53 pm Posts: 12197
|
Cotton wrote: Is it me, or is Chicken George in a good position in the house right now? 
It's not just you. He can be on good enough terms with the BB6 people because of Howie, but also be the swing vote that the others might need, and he also wont win too much for a while, so no one I think sees a need to nominate him. Kaysar, Janelle, James, Will, Danielle, Howie, and Mike Boogie would go before him I think (thus could do absolutely nothing for a number of weeks, and finish in top 5).
|
Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:28 pm |
|
 |
Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
|
O wrote: Cotton wrote: Is it me, or is Chicken George in a good position in the house right now?  It's not just you. He can be on good enough terms with the BB6 people because of Howie, but also be the swing vote that the others might need, and he also wont win too much for a while, so no one I think sees a need to nominate him. Kaysar, Janelle, James, Will, Danielle, Howie, and Mike Boogie would go before him I think (thus could do absolutely nothing for a number of weeks, and finish in top 5).
Ugh, that's so depressing, but I agree with you. 
|
Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:39 pm |
|
 |
haerpinot
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 1051
|
Cotton wrote: Is it me, or is Chicken George in a good position in the house right now? 
I don't think so. He's been brought up repeatedly the past week or so as someone who is undeserving of being in the house, who should be dealt with sooner than later, etc. Kaysar's plan was to target him this week as part of his take out the floaters plan, of course it remains to be seen what James will do but it's not out of the realm of possibility [spoil]At this point James actually does want CG out this week[/spoil] I don't expect George to make it to the jury, his lack of allies makes him a rather "safe" boot for any HG, and someone will be unable to resist targeting him since it won't ruffle any feathers.
|
Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:29 am |
|
 |
Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
|
Lucky wrote: Now that's why Will is considered the best BB player ever,he called Kayser out and he blinked.
Chill Town will rule them all.
I just re-watched this episode (my dad was watching it), and really, if anyone blinked, it was Will. He expected to make Kaysar look like the bad guy, and when Kaysar asked who they should put up instead, Will said nothing. After awkward silence, he tries to look like the good guy and says "Put me up!". Will didn't gain much from that, and I don't believe for a second that people like Erika or George are following Chilltown to take down Season 6 when they get the opportunity (if they do).
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
|
Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:09 pm |
|
 |
Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
|
I think a good reason why no one is winning HOH from the other side (or, that is, from a group besides BB6) is that they're not solid enough. Season 6 are determined as hell (although, I don't know if Season 6 is completely together, since I was reading spoilers a few days ago that suggested people were pissed at Kaysar, including Janelle and James). Only Will and Mike are solid enough, but they haven't won yet and may not win. They're trying to rally troops, but you have Jase (and probably Diane) who are closer to Willtown. Then, you got Erika, George, and Marcellas who are floaters, and don't have a set alliance. Erika and Marcellas shift more towards S6 (btw, SeaSick is one of Will's lamer nicknames). And Danielle... I don't know.
Spoiler discussion:
[spoil]If James is looking to get rid of George, it's a horrible move. He's a floater and needs to be dealt with, but not now. If you're in the final four, and George is there, he's not going to suddenly win HOH against three determined players. I like the guy, but he's not a strong player in any way. For two weeks, he's been a vote for or against someone. He's not much more.[/spoil]
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
|
Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:18 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
Marcellus loves Janelle. They hang out together, go to bed together, took a bath together, and Marcellus himself said he wants to have Janelle around as long as possible. He even said that it would be "aesthetically pleasing" in regards to Janelle, and he's gay.
Erika loves Kaysar. There are just so many prime examples of Erika totally flirting with Kaysar. Erika also has doubted Will and his recruitment, considering her comments after the hottub scene.
I think Marcellus and Erika are totally leaning towards Season 6.
PEACE, Mike.
|
Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:58 pm |
|
 |
mdana
Veteran
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
|
I still don't get why Nakomis went out over Diane, since Diane has the Mr. and Mrs. Smith thing going with Jase. IMO Nakomis was the stronger player, but Diane was/is the bigger threat alligned with Jase. Why keep someone marginally weaker as a player, but significantly stronger in terms of alliances?
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:54 pm |
|
 |
Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
|
I think the Mr. and Mrs. Smith thing was amplified by the editors. I'm not sure if the houseguests take it that seriously.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:40 pm |
|
 |
haerpinot
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 1051
|
The HGs do believe the Mr & Mrs Smith thing, or at least still have their suspicions about it - and the rumor about that was not started by Danielle, but the editors had to shape it to look that way since a reality star from another series was involved.
Diane was kept over Nakomis because the S6 could not get what they wanted; they wanted to keep Nakomis because they found her more trustworthy, but they realized all too late that they did not have the votes to save her. Jase, Booger, Will & CG were all definitely voting out Nakomis. That left Danielle, who had already promised her vote to Diane days earlier (and had her own reasons for getting out Nakomis), and Marcellas, who fell for Diane's sob story and wouldn't vote her out either. Erika was willing to vote with S6, but that would leave the vote 6-4, and they needed a tie to get Diane out. So at that point the S6 were resigned to voting out Nakomis, except the pity vote by Janelle and the mockery vote by Will. They could've used the POV to save Nakomis (Erika would have used it if Kaysar gave the go-ahead), but before the ceremony they didn't realize the votes to save her weren't there.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:06 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
Ooh, Georgie has a darker side to him. Maybe James was right?
Didn't seem like everyone was upset (infact, everyone seemed incredibly relieved that they were safe and George was up). But they didn't really show much reaction, anyways.
SPOILERS:
[spoil]Even though we know George has won the veto, him being nominated did at least call him out a bit and make him less floater-y. He may not be in the best position anymore now. I can't wait to see James flipping out, anyhow. What a drama queen. Heh.[/spoil]
PEACE, Mike.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:06 pm |
|
 |
Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
|
MikeQ. wrote: Ooh, Georgie has a darker side to him. Maybe James was right? Didn't seem like everyone was upset (infact, everyone seemed incredibly relieved that they were safe and George was up). But they didn't really show much reaction, anyways. SPOILERS: [spoil]Even though we know George has won the veto, him being nominated did at least call him out a bit and make him less floater-y. He may not be in the best position anymore now. I can't wait to see James flipping out, anyhow. What a drama queen. Heh.[/spoil] PEACE, Mike.
[spoil]His reaction kind of reminds me of April, when she called the people who watch Big Brother "pieces of shit" for voting for Janelle to win America's Choice. Oh well....  [/spoil]
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:23 pm |
|
 |
mdana
Veteran
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
|
I haven't read the spoilers, so perhaps I am missing something, but I don't get putting up George. He is so lame, I don't think he could win no matter who he went up against in the finals, if by some miracle he made it. Danielle and Will (and the already departed Allison) are the only two to make it to the finals, I think. I don't understand not getting rid of them at the earliest possible moment. All this getting rid of floaters b.s. is just buying those two more time and momentum in the house.
Is it just me or does George look like what Haley Joel Osment would look like in 30 years if he went to seed?
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:57 pm |
|
 |
mdana
Veteran
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
|
haerpinot wrote: The HGs do believe the Mr & Mrs Smith thing, or at least still have their suspicions about it - and the rumor about that was not started by Danielle, but the editors had to shape it to look that way since a reality star from another series was involved.
Diane was kept over Nakomis because the S6 could not get what they wanted; they wanted to keep Nakomis because they found her more trustworthy, but they realized all too late that they did not have the votes to save her. Jase, Booger, Will & CG were all definitely voting out Nakomis. That left Danielle, who had already promised her vote to Diane days earlier (and had her own reasons for getting out Nakomis), and Marcellas, who fell for Diane's sob story and wouldn't vote her out either. Erika was willing to vote with S6, but that would leave the vote 6-4, and they needed a tie to get Diane out. So at that point the S6 were resigned to voting out Nakomis, except the pity vote by Janelle and the mockery vote by Will. They could've used the POV to save Nakomis (Erika would have used it if Kaysar gave the go-ahead), but before the ceremony they didn't realize the votes to save her weren't there.
But Will voted to evict Diane, didn't he? If I were James, I wouldn't want Jase with Diane by his side in the house, so I don't get his whole "what's best for Howie and Me" philosophy.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:01 pm |
|
 |
mdana
Veteran
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
|
If I were James, my 3 biggest concerns/threats would be Danielle, Jase, and Will. I guess he believes he can beat them in competions late in the game, but those are crapshoots for the most part.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:04 pm |
|
 |
haerpinot
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 1051
|
mdana wrote: But Will voted to evict Diane, didn't he? If I were James, I wouldn't want Jase with Diane by his side in the house, so I don't get his whole "what's best for Howie and Me" philosophy.
Yes but he did that because he knew how the vote was going, he was just being a smartass voting for Nakomis to stay. and I if I were James I wouldn't want Jase in the house anymore, period. He's a very strong player physically & mentally and it's confounding that the S6 have gone after George over him.
As for the Chicken George nomination, the S6 in particular have been gunning for him somewhat inexplicably for weeks now, they think that he is some sort of student of the game and has studied all about it. They think his nice guy persona is basically a front, plus they don't want to target Chilltown because they think the other floaters will go after CT if they're still in the house. Marc, Dani, and Erika are on S6's side for all intents and purposes, hence their lack of nomination. Targeting CG is also a smart move for someone who doesn't want to cause controversy, since ousting him would upset absolutely no one as he has no allies.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:08 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
Yeah. I think nominating Jase or Boogie would have been better, personally, but putting up George wasn't a make or break it move or anything. They have their reasons, and it isn't going to offend anyone, so it's not a huge mistake (or any mistake, depending what you believe).
SPOILERS
[spoil]If you've been reading the spoilers though, you know that George has won the veto anyways, and he is taking himself off. So, James will have to put up Jase or Boogie anyways. In a way, this might have been the best move now, by luck itself. James has called out George (even if George didn't really do anything, he's made him seem like a sort of threat) and now either Will or Boogie/Jase (or someone else who is a threat) will be leaving.
Although, I personally hope Will stays. Same for Danielle. I love 'em both. Heh.[/spoil]
PEACE, Mike.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:20 pm |
|
 |
Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
|
haerpinot wrote: mdana wrote: But Will voted to evict Diane, didn't he? If I were James, I wouldn't want Jase with Diane by his side in the house, so I don't get his whole "what's best for Howie and Me" philosophy. Yes but he did that because he knew how the vote was going, he was just being a smartass voting for Nakomis to stay. and I if I were James I wouldn't want Jase in the house anymore, period. He's a very strong player physically & mentally and it's confounding that the S6 have gone after George over him. As for the Chicken George nomination, the S6 in particular have been gunning for him somewhat inexplicably for weeks now, they think that he is some sort of student of the game and has studied all about it. They think his nice guy persona is basically a front, plus they don't want to target Chilltown because they think the other floaters will go after CT if they're still in the house. Marc, Dani, and Erika are on S6's side for all intents and purposes, hence their lack of nomination. Targeting CG is also a smart move for someone who doesn't want to cause controversy, since ousting him would upset absolutely no one as he has no allies.
True, but I still don't agree with their logic (imo). In fact, the big reason why the S6 crew lost in BB6 was because they chose to target James instead of their rival alliance, the Nerd Herd. Plus, wouldn't the floaters be more likely to throw the HoH competitions, thus giving Chilltown a better chance of winning? Moreover, Kaysar's comment in the diary room that he doesn't want to give the floaters a free pass to the end is kind of ineffective, since it can pretty much apply to anyone who doesn't get nominated.
Anyway, I think S6 (especially James and Kaysar) are too caught up in these perceptions that certain people are "floaters" while others are "threats". It just seems easier to go after the people who are gunning for you. Nominating Chicken George is a popular move, but the other houseguests are still going to go after them regardless. They might as well beat them to the punch.
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:23 pm |
|
 |
Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40593
|
I love Big Brother, but I can never watch it, as I'm always away at nights in the summer.
I wish it was just a fall show like everything else.
_________________Shack’s top 50 tv shows - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=90227
|
Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:46 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
So, after a watching a bit of tonight's episode, it appears that everyone in the house believes there is a lot more to George than he lets on to be, and that that's why he's a player that you would want to evict.
And now that the show has to concentrate on George, because he's a nominee, I can totally see how he can be really annoying. Some of his comments are a bit sarcastic, and he's just talking, talking, talking about everyone else (going on and on about "the master" Will, etc). I still think he's a harmless guy, but his attitude has certainly changed. His rap? Wow....
PEACE, Mike.
|
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:14 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
Wow, that veto competition was self-esteem crushing.
I can sort of (in a weird twisted way) see why James thinks the game is rigged. George has no problem doing the "no veto next week" challenge, because he NEEDS the veto this week. It's harder for someone like James, who is HOH this week and cannot compete next week. It's just how it is, but I can see the difference. Anyways, don't get me wrong, I'm not calling it rigged and that George shouldn't have won. George clearly had perseverence.
And I can really see why Kaysar would be upset now. He went all the way, and hesitated big time on buzzing his hair (he could have stepped out) but went for himself and his alliance, and then loses on a tiebreaker. I'd be sad. At least he doesn't have to eat slop for 60 days like I thought.
And congrats George. Totally persevered. (Does anybody know from the live feeds or whatever what was blurred out on Chicken George's chest? Someone wrote something on his chest that wasn't allowed to be viewed on TV. Was it just a swear word or something?)
PEACE, Mike.
|
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:37 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
So....
who was it that called it about Jase soon blowing and losing his cool? Was it Mr. X? Cotton? I can't remember. Whorever it was, you were just proven right. Jase just exploded. lol. On the entire house. I can't believe that public discussion went down. I thought it was going to be a private one. I think it was smart on Kaysar/James part, because now Jase exploded at everyone, and the fight was mostly between Marcellus and Jase who were bitch fighting at eachother (and everyone else was just smirking, heh).
PEACE, Mike.
|
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:46 pm |
|
 |
MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
|
Wow at Will's speech.
George's speech started off really sweet and really heartfelt, but then it got fake and suck-up-ish (he must have repeated "I'm honoured to be in the house with you all" 3 or 4 times). Still, the house clearly felt it. There were teary eyes.
I think Jase is going, but I dunno with Will's speech (which was brilliant by the way). "I realized that I hate all of you equally. There is nobody in here I hate more than anyone else." Him threatening to throw the competitions (including the food competitions) to force people to eat slop may just make people vote him out, though. So, I dunno...
PEACE, Mike.
|
Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:58 pm |
|
 |
O
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:53 pm Posts: 12197
|
That was just a satifying Tuesday episode. Those Tuesday's are usually the worst, as we know everything that happens, but this was a really well put together one. James, Jase, acted bad this episode, George, even if it was all fake, was very interesting this week. I LOVED the Marcellas/Jase argument. I don't get the "backdoored talk." Backdoored means that your nominated after the veto is used, and aren't able to play for the veto. Jase was 1/6 people who could have played the veto. He doesn't know what being backdoored is, which is surprising considering his history. Also, this was a very Jase heavy episode too, so I would have LOVED to see Nakomis around as that would have made Jase even more tense (since he disliked her so much). Will started out interesting with his speech, but it, along with George's got a bit tiring after a while. I guess if he didn't say "vote me out" at every minute, than his speech would have been more enjoyable, but its all he's been saying on the feeds, etc forever.
Danielle was fun in this episode. I can't wait for her to win an HOH. That will be fun. Marcellas gets alot of coverage for someone who does absolutely nothing in the house.
Was that a rock on the couch just lying there? No, it was Erika. Never mind.
Good for George though. He won the veto. All of the other people could have too if they wanted it enough, but didn't go the extra mile. So I don't see at all how it is remotely rigged. Now that Maggie competition last year, where she gets HOH the week after Eric leaves...THAT was rigged.
|
Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:08 pm |
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 69 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|