The 'Big Brother: All-Stars' Thread
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Mister Ecks
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Cotton wrote: MikeQ. wrote: O wrote: Well, I just found out that Julie Chen was Leslie Moonves' wife. Who's Leslie Moonve? Should I know? Heh. PEACE, Mike. He's the President and CEO of CBS.
Not to mention the guy who tried to sue Howard Stern, for ridiculous reasons, and ended up settling. If anything, it was a good thing, since any Howard fans know that Howard got his K-ROCK tapes back for the SIRIUS show.
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Mister Ecks
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I was a fan of Diane during BB5, when I suppose there weren't so many more popular personalities (Jase? The Other Meatheads? The Twins?). BB7 Diane (according to the show, not the live feeds) is invisible, and when visible, she's covering her eyes while she casts her vote.
And Chicken George... I never understood the hatred for him. I always liked the guy. Maybe I'm a similar person, which would probably be bad for me. But the guy is just fun-loving, trying to have a good time, and make people laugh. I hate it that the houseguests mostly treat him as an unwelcome guest. He's harmless, and ultimately good for a vote (he kept his word with Danielle didn't he?). Other that the horrific "walkout" attempt of BB1, George is fun.
Are Will and Snot distant of the other houseguests? I was looking at all of the HOH snapshots on the CBS site, and only one picture features Snot (he's not looking at the camera either), while one pic features Will in the shot with other houseguests that are posing, and he's got his hand covering his face.
The good Jase is not going to last. Once he becomes threatened, I think he's going to unleash that hell deep inside his soul upon the house. He doesn't have the presence of his fiancee to calm him down now.
I really really really don't like Nakomis. I never have. During her season, she seemed to slowly develop an ego in the house that made her appear to be a powerful personality (and a cocky one). It's running strong this season, but unfortunately for her, she's got about ten other powerful personalities to contend with.
I'm disappointed in the overall lack of camera-time for Howie and Kaysar so far. I hope that changes with Kaysar as HOH. Which reminds me: how ridiculous is the Howie/Will angle that CBS was going for? I read that there were quite a few comical moments between the two, which didn't involve Howie drooling over the Evil Doctor. From what I read, it sounds like they were confused as to why Julie talked about Howie's "crush".
Okay, that's enough random thoughts for the night. I still plan on doing a person-by-person analysis soon, including the evicted and the losers (Cowboy, Dana, Ivette, etc.), as well as anyone I feel should have had the chance to come back.
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Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:04 pm |
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Cotton
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I liked Diane during her season as well. I've always thought she was (compared to the others) a real, tough, scrappy player who played hard and really wanted to win. I also get the vibe that she could kick the crap out of Janelle, Alison, and all the other Big Brother bitches with both hands tied behind her back.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:40 am |
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O
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Cotton wrote: I liked Diane during her season as well. I've always thought she was (compared to the others) a real, tough, scrappy player who played hard and really wanted to win. I also get the vibe that she could kick the crap out of Janelle, Alison, and all the other Big Brother bitches with both hands tied behind her back.
The problem with Diane's season is, you don't really know how good she herself was, or whether it was Drew who brought her so far (top 3), with complete certainty. We know Cowboy relied heavily on Drew to get to #2, but Diane also did things though.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:47 am |
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Cotton
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O wrote: Cotton wrote: I liked Diane during her season as well. I've always thought she was (compared to the others) a real, tough, scrappy player who played hard and really wanted to win. I also get the vibe that she could kick the crap out of Janelle, Alison, and all the other Big Brother bitches with both hands tied behind her back. The problem with Diane's season is, you don't really know how good she herself was, or whether it was Drew who brought her so far (top 3), with complete certainty. We know Cowboy relied heavily on Drew to get to #2, but Diane also did things though.
I think she carried Drew for the most part, actually. She was the one who convinced him to go against the four hoursemen and, in turn, integrated him into her own alliance. Next to Nakomis, she was probably the most influential person during her season.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:27 am |
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Mister Ecks
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And then Drew votes her out before the final two. It was a major knife in the back, and a real heartbreaker for Diane. But, it put Drew in the winner's circle, so there's not much to say about it. He did what he had to for the win.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:47 am |
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haerpinot
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Diane's only mistake in season five was letting it slip that if Drew were up against her in the finals, she would win. I think she misinterpreted something he said about the first part of the final HoH comp that led her to say this, and after that the lightbulb went off in Drew's head leading him to evict her.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:54 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Urgh. Well, after watching tonight's episode, Mike Boogie has hit an all new level of arrogance and cockiness. His comments that ended the show drove me nuts.
I also don't personally see why some people here are upset with the nominations (Nakomis and Diane). I thought everyone here (except for me) loves Mike Boogie? And I'm pretty sure nearly everyone here loves Will. So, isn't it a great thing that neither of these two are going, if you guys love them so much? I dunno, just wondering. I don't like that Diane is up personally, but I'm not a fan of Nakomis AT ALL, and would love to see her go. And I'd rather Will and Danielle, my faves, be safe.
Has the veto competition happened yet, and does anyone know the winner (from feeds or a BB site)? (Put in spoiler box).
Thanks.
Oh, and if Will is really sooo upset being in the house, couldn't he have lost the food competition, had to eat oatmeal, but then eat real food, and take the penalty and automatically be put up? Isn't that how it goes? That way, he would be able to get himself out a lot easier. Clearly, he doesn't want to be out that badly, unless I've mistaken something.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:07 pm |
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mdana
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Can someone explain why Kaysar put up these two? How does it shake up the house when they are working together? You can't rely on the veto to backdoor someone, because it could be random. Dr. Will and Danielle are the biggest threats and perhaps the best players, any vote not to eliminate those two is a major mistake. Kaysar made another blunder almost as bad as Howie going after James. BB6 are really poor players, they constantly do the dirty work for the players aligned against them.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:23 pm |
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MikeQ.
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mdana wrote: Can someone explain why Kaysar put up these two? How does it shake up the house when they are working together? You can't rely on the veto to backdoor someone, because it could be random. Dr. Will and Danielle are the biggest threats and perhaps the best players, any vote not to eliminate those two is a major mistake. Kaysar made another blunder almost as bad as Howie going after James. BB6 are really poor players, they constantly do the dirty work for the players aligned against them.
I think he wants to see where people's loyalty lies. Because of his two choices, people have to drop their neutrality and choose between two relatively liked people that everyone got along with. So the non BB6 alliance people have to choose a side, and in effect, in theory, it would cause some conflict among them. I think it makes sense (Kaysar is generally pretty smart, but not always), but I think it would have been better to make a different move personally. But who knows where this will go. We actually to wait until the eviction and such to see whether this really stirred things up and exposed some people or not. If it doesn't, his whole thing will end up rather worthless.
That's how I read it, but I'm not sure exactly. I might be wrong in his intentions. *shrug*
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:27 pm |
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BennyBlanco
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When the hell has Will ever won a competition? Nakomis is a far bigger threat in competitions than chill town are, not to mention the fact that she no doubt would have put up Kaysar and Janelle is she had won HOH. It's a perfect move. In their minds, chill town will be dealt with eventually, they have the hugest target on them next to BB6, so why not go for Nakomis/Diane who might slip a little under the radar and end up biting you in the ass?
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:40 pm |
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haerpinot
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I thought Kaysar was trying his best not to shake things up...he knew Nakomis/Diane were together and after S6, so it was a choice between them and Will/Booger. Rather than pissing both alliances off by nominating one of each, he decided to make a deal with one and nominate the other two who are bigger HoH threats, so that worst case scenario next week there is only one person out to get him (whoever survives of Nakomis/Diane). I think it would have been better for him to target Booger/Jase since they have more sway with the others than anyone else. Diane/Nakomis really have no power in the house, and are only truly aligned with each other. Last week's vote should have shown Kaysar that they're pretty out of the loop, heck even Chicken George voted with the house.
I can't stand Booger but I'm glad he's willing to take out some of the S6ers. Erika unfortunately looks to be in the best game position now, I'd say Dani/Marcellas are up there too but they should make a gentleman's agreement to leave each other alone...the only people who want to take either of them out right now are each other. Kaysar/Howie are in the best position of the S6ers, and whichever of Diane/Nik survives this week should stick around for quite awhile.
As for a veto spoiler [spoil]Erika won it, ceremony is tomorrow but she probably won't use it[/spoil]
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:40 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Oh, and isn't Boogie like, switching back and forth in comments? At the beginning of the show, he says that he didn't want the BB6 people to win the veto, and he most definately didn't want Kaysar to win the veto. He says Kaysar would have been last on the list to win, for him. But then at the end of the episode, before the nomination ceremony, he says he trusts Kaysar more than the other BB6 people to make a good move because he's smart. Um, contradiction?
Boogie sounds like a guy who likes to think he's all smart and strategic, but he's really just spouting out contradictory stuff all over the place.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:12 pm |
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Cotton
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Well, I recorded tonight's episode, but unfortunately my cassette ran out of tape 10 minutes before the end, therefore I missed the nomination ceremony (what did Boogie say that pissed you off so much, Mike?). Rats!
Even though I detest Mike, I'm a big fan of Dr. Will (like everyone else), so I'm glad at how things turned out. I think we all knew before the episode that it would be either Mike/Will or Diane/Nakomis up on the chopping block. I personally like both Diane and Nakomis, but I guess I'd prefer to have Diane stay in the house, since if it were up to me, Nak wouldn't have been selected to begin with.
But really, between the two pairs, who's the bigger threat? Scrappy Diane and her tattooed friend, or the best Big Brother player in history and his scheming beeyotch? I just think Kaysar chose the lesser of the two evils, and I'm scared (for him, at least) that he'll regret letting the opportunity to evict Will pass him by.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Cotton
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BennyBlanco wrote: When the hell has Will ever won a competition? Nakomis is a far bigger threat in competitions than chill town are, not to mention the fact that she no doubt would have put up Kaysar and Janelle is she had won HOH. It's a perfect move. In their minds, chill town will be dealt with eventually, they have the hugest target on them next to BB6, so why not go for Nakomis/Diane who might slip a little under the radar and end up biting you in the ass?
Isn't that the strategy that took him all the way to the end during season 2?
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if his supposed comments about not wanting to be in the house anymore are all extensions from that same strategy.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:17 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Cotton wrote: (what did Boogie say that pissed you off so much, Mike?). Rats!
He went on and on about how Kaysar made a huge mistake, he passed up his "one chance" to put up himself (Boogie) and Will for eviction to break up what he calls "the best alliance in the house", and he gushed about himself. He held nothing back. He had no problem praising himself right out. It bugged me, a lot. I mean, there's yet another contradictory/hypocritical thing about him. He chastises other people for being a little smug with themselves, and he goes out and talks about how he's the King.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:19 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Oh, and Will never ends with the classic, CLASSIC quotes. I hope he stays loooong.
"Normally 2 brain cells would be enough for anyone to survive, but with Howie, eventually his two brain cells start arguing with eachother and he can't do anything" or something like that. Just hilarious.
"I find Howie is entertaining for about 5 minutes. His jokes are so dumb. He should change his name to 'One Trick Pony' because that's all he is."
May not be exact quotes, I'm terrible at remembering.
Will hates Howie. But he loves Jase. And Howie loves Will.
PEACE, Mike.
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:26 pm |
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Cotton
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MikeQ. wrote: Oh, and Will never ends with the classic, CLASSIC quotes. I hope he stays loooong.
"Normally 2 brain cells would be enough for anyone to survive, but with Howie, eventually his two brain cells start arguing with eachother and he can't do anything" or something like that. Just hilarious.
"I find Howie is entertaining for about 5 minutes. His jokes are so dumb. He should change his name to 'One Trick Pony' because that's all he is."
May not be exact quotes, I'm terrible at remembering.
Will hates Howie. But he loves Jase. And Howie loves Will.
PEACE, Mike.
Yeah, it seems like there are two games in the house right now: one for money, and one for pwning.
However, I think the quote of the evening belongs to Janelle, while refering to the slop: "It's just nasty and it reminds me of prison food."

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Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:32 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Chill Town is the biggest alliance? Right. I'm changing my nickname for Mike, from Snot to Scrappy Doo.
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:27 am |
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greasedlightning
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Cotton wrote: Well, I recorded tonight's episode, but unfortunately my cassette ran out of tape 10 minutes before the end, therefore I missed the nomination ceremony.
If you go to the BB website, they have this thing called innertube and you can watch all the episodes there.. so you can still catch the last ten minutes.
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:39 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Mr. X wrote: Winner prediction in spoilers
[spoil]Erika is going to win. I'm full of bold predictions today! Someone, quote me!![/spoil]
Looks like the prediction is holding up nicely, as she is really not pissing anyone off. Her main threat was Alison, and she's gone. She's chummy with Kaysar, she got Will feeling bad for hurting her ribs during the food comp, Howie obviously loves her. Of the floaters, she'll last the longest, I assume.
Don't mistake all that for me saying that I love Erika, because that's the farthest from the truth. It's just common sense.
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:01 pm |
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Cotton
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I predict Erika, Danielle, Marcellas, and Jase will go very far.
The winner will probably be one of those four. 
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:20 am |
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mdana
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James game plan might work this time. I think he would be the last of BB6 to be targeted and he is really staying low at least on the episodes. He can also lie much easier when he doesn't have to worry about his girlfriend talking to other players. Out of the all-stars who has never been HOH? Are there any others besides James? I don't think James ever was on BB6.
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:28 am |
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mdana
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Cotton wrote: I predict Erika, Danielle, Marcellas, and Jase will go very far. The winner will probably be one of those four.  I think the first three have solid shots, but Jase will screw himself when it goes from 8-4.
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:29 am |
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greasedlightning
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mdana wrote: James game plan might work this time. I think he would be the last of BB6 to be targeted and he is really staying low at least on the episodes. He can also lie much easier when he doesn't have to worry about his girlfriend talking to other players. Out of the all-stars who has never been HOH? Are there any others besides James? I don't think James ever was on BB6.
Will never won HoH either.
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:56 pm |
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