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Nazgul9
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Zingaling wrote: abomination of a film, The Village

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Nazgul9
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Positive Jon wrote: For god sakes, he made the cover of Newsweek as "The Next Spielberg" when Signs came out. How sadly wasted THAT brief title was.
Actually, Shyamalan is better than Spielberg.
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Eventine
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Nazgul9 wrote: Positive Jon wrote: For god sakes, he made the cover of Newsweek as "The Next Spielberg" when Signs came out. How sadly wasted THAT brief title was. Actually, Shyamalan is better than Spielberg.
Your opinion. 
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Nazgul9
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Eventine wrote: Your opinion. 
Why don't you just put that in your sig instead of posting it 3 times a day... 
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Eventine
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You know what... I will... not.
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O
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Killuminati510 wrote: This isnt a sequel, it's a whole different film. Obviously some will look at it the way you're saying but not the majority, just because the director came off a film that got incredibly mixed wom doesnt mean it's gonna do crap business.
A 2.25 multiplier is not mixed word of mouth, its horrendous word of mouth. Some fanboys may have liked it, but a film with the 2nd worst multiplier of all time for $50 m + grossers is not even merited mixed word of mouth imo.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:44 pm |
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DP07
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O wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: This isnt a sequel, it's a whole different film. Obviously some will look at it the way you're saying but not the majority, just because the director came off a film that got incredibly mixed wom doesnt mean it's gonna do crap business. A 2.25 multiplier is not mixed word of mouth, its horrendous word of mouth. Some fanboys may have liked it, but a film with the 2nd worst multiplier of all time for $50 m + grossers is not even merited mixed word of mouth imo.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:46 pm |
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Tyler
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Yeah, this movie is ultimately a make-or-break for Shyamalan. He isn't nearly as established as Spielberg is (not yet at least), so he can't fumble as often as he has.
$22 million opening, and a total from $50-100 million depending on how good it is.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:58 pm |
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Squee
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I'd argue he's only fumbled once, with the Village. Unbreakable, while not a 100 million grosser, was still generally considered good and did have decent legs. Signs had good legs too. So if the Village fumble is enough to consider it "often" i'd say your standards are too high.
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Tyler
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I meant fumble as often as Spielberg. Spielberg has made plenty of crap along with plenty of great or good movies.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:07 pm |
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Squee
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Sun Ra wrote: I meant fumble as often as Spielberg. Spielberg has made plenty of crap along with plenty of great or good movies.
OH I SEE!
Yeah, it would be bad to have 2 fumbles in a row for Shamylan.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:08 pm |
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Tyler
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It would be toxic, unless he came back with something LOTR-quality. Despite his gimmicks and Hitchcock-wannabe-isms, I have faith that he can turn around and make gold here. So: 22/90 for now.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:14 pm |
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DP07
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Squee wrote: I'd argue he's only fumbled once, with the Village. Unbreakable, while not a 100 million grosser, was still generally considered good and did have decent legs.
It actually had 4 drops around 50% until it's 6th weekend which is pretty much terrible for 2000. The multiplier was 2.6, although to be fair it opened on Thanksgiving weekend.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:16 pm |
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Squee
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I hope there's no twist ending. Those are so played out, especially in his movies where you expect them. They only work when you're not looking for one. Besides, twist endings have a tendency to ruin replayability. That's why Signs is still my favorite, the ending wasnt a twist.
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Squee
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DP07 wrote: Squee wrote: I'd argue he's only fumbled once, with the Village. Unbreakable, while not a 100 million grosser, was still generally considered good and did have decent legs. It actually had 4 drops around 50% until it's 6th weekend which is pretty much terrible for 2000. The multiplier was 2.6, although to be fair it opened on Thanksgiving weekend.
I guess I got the numbers wrong, I thought it opened in the high 20s and ended in the 90s. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR FACTS!! DAMN IT!
I still wouldnt really consider it a fumble, though.
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Eventine
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It opened with $30 million and ended with $95 million.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:21 pm |
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DP07
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Squee wrote: DP07 wrote: Squee wrote: I'd argue he's only fumbled once, with the Village. Unbreakable, while not a 100 million grosser, was still generally considered good and did have decent legs. It actually had 4 drops around 50% until it's 6th weekend which is pretty much terrible for 2000. The multiplier was 2.6, although to be fair it opened on Thanksgiving weekend. I guess I got the numbers wrong, I thought it opened in the high 20s and ended in the 90s. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR FACTS!! DAMN IT! I still wouldnt really consider it a fumble, though.
It opened with 30.3m 3-day, but don't forget the 15.7m it had earned in the first two days before that. So, a 30.3m weekend gave it just under 80m in calculating the multiplier.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:23 pm |
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Eventine
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Well the trailers did show the monsters. I think that's convincing enough that there is something dangerous out there. But the twist could be something like... *blank mind* Meh I'll get back into that.
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Eventine
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Too obvious. The TV spots and trailers kinda showed it like that.
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MikeQ.
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My favourite is The Village because it had a supposed twist, but not really. By the time you came to it, it meant absolutely nothing because the movie proved to be far deeper than just some silly horror movie. There was a lot more metaphorical things at work, as well as an unexpected, surprisingly touching love story lead by Howard's excellent performance. Ultimately, the twist wasn't meant to shock, but to delve the story forward so that Ivy is able to realize the forest isn't dangerous, and she is able to save the one she loves by fetching medecine. The whole situation is pushed even further considering she is blind (so well portrayed thanks to Howard). And the older cast members are terrific in this film.
Anyways, Howard's involvement again in another Shyamalan movie makes me excited. And there was an early review somewhere that I read that said this movie succeeds because Shyamalan drops the signature twist, or made it work or something. Can't remember which. In any event, nothing negative yet, which is good that isn't developing early negative buzz. Even the advertisement suddenly became a LOT better, with an awesome final trailer and those 2 great TV ads.
PEACE, Mike.
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Joker's Thug #3
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JoBlo's review specifically said there is no significant twist.
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:47 pm |
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Chippy
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I hope it doesn't confuse the hell out of me.
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Joker's Thug #3
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2+2 confuses the hell out of you.
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Chippy
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Killuminati510 wrote: 2+2 confuses the hell out of you.
Then lets hope there is no math involved in LinW...
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Joker's Thug #3
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The whole movie revolves around mathematical equations, you're screwed.
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