The Superman Returns will make under 200 million club
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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It's strange to come from BOM where we have several fanatical Superman users who honestly think Superman Returns has a shot at toppling Titanic to KJ, where there's an "under $200 million club."
I think it can get around $285-300 million. Advertising has been good so far, but not enough to take it to Spider-Man levels. Plus, it could be hard selling the idea that it isn't a complete franchise re-boot, but rather picking up where the second film of four left off. Still, it's Superman, so a few people will be brought in by the brand name, as with each of the big superhero films.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:37 pm |
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lesterg
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All kidding aside - are there seriously people over there that think that? That is so awesome.
Neowolf's comparison of Kong and Superman fans really was dead-on!
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:45 pm |
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El Maskado
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Nice avatar lesterg 
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:47 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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lesterg wrote: All kidding aside - are there seriously people over there that think that? That is so awesome.
Neowolf's comparison of Kong and Superman fans really was dead-on!
Yes, and the agenda is pushed so far that all reason is cast aside.
It's going to be funny to see what happens when it doesn't beat X3's opening day, and the excuses for why Pirates doubles its gross in the second weekend, and why the movie won't reach Spider-Man levels.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:54 pm |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:59 pm |
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Erendis
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I'm sorry Webslinger, I don't think Superman is capable of $280M. You need a perfect set of conditions to get that. You need no competition, A-minus level star power, an early release date to rack up summer weekdays, and very good WOM. I don't know if SR has even one of these things, much less all of them.
Routh had better be VERY good, or else Baumer's going to wipe the floor with everyone.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:13 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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The movie does have the fourth of July weekend, it will likely get very good WOM, and there are many devoted comic book fans who will see it.
However, I could see it falling under $280 million. It doesn't really help that it will be flattened by Pirates, but it could generate spillover business as a result of sellouts for Captain Jack and crew.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:21 pm |
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baumer72
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Just keep in mind, I did up my prediction by about 10 mill.
63 over 5 days
169.75 total.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:37 pm |
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Shack
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By the way, I'm now predicting around 53 mil 3-day, 80 mil 5-day, and 165 mil total.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:42 pm |
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Excel
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shack this opens on a wednesday, till get a much better multiplier then jusst a 3.
10/10 in reviews, 9/10 totally utterly loving it,with 1/10 saying its just "very,very good".
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:29 pm |
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baumer72
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excel wrote: shack this opens on a wednesday, till get a much better multiplier then jusst a 3.
10/10 in reviews, 9/10 totally utterly loving it,with 1/10 saying its just "very,very good".
Tell that to Cinderella Man and every Woody Allen film ever produced.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:48 pm |
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Excel
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cinderella man opened on a friday but still got a 3.2
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:01 pm |
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matatonio
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Theres less and less buzz over this movie every single week!....
The majority of people i know are not interested on seeing SR.... just my dad
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:10 pm |
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baumer72
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excel wrote: cinderella man opened on a friday but still got a 3.2
I'm talking abuot reviews.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:19 pm |
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Shack
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Between Pirates, and frontloadedness just being really high this summer, I don't think a 3 multiplier is unreasonable. Remember, it's Wednesday and Thursday will be low because all the advertising has been saying the 30th. It won't make that much less that weekend than if it was coming out on a Friday.
And WOM is no guarantee yet, most early reviews for movies like this are strong. And even so, strong reviews does not mean strong WOM. Judging by the fact that it has more romance than action, people could be turned off and bored. Or they could love it, and I'll be eating my words there.
Still though, I'll stick by a 3 multiplier. Getting a 4 is nearly impossible, with Pirates undoubtably killing it.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:21 pm |
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Excel
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what do you think it wqould get then if it opened on a friday? a 2.3?
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:36 pm |
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Shack
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2.6-2.7.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:38 pm |
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Excel
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plus its a kids movie + quality=multiplier much higher then 3, no matter how big opens. yes, lots fo teenagers will be seeing this i think, after the insane crowd reaction they got at the mtv movie awards, but kids andquality qill give this amultiplier probably over 3.7. wotw, with big compitition , little kid appeal, and mixed wom, got a 3.7. superman wiith what looks to be good word of mouth, huge kid appeal, but big compitition, should atleast match that, even if it opens to 90 million.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:13 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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SR's opening obviously will be the determining factor on its legs. If it has a smaller, disappointing opening, it will have good, durable legs like Batman Begins. If it opens big, its legs will be mediocre-average. Even if the former happens, I still don't see it falling below $200 million.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:32 pm |
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ashwani
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I think SHAK has a valid point of superman turning off some people.
Those who are expecting an action packed movie with amazing visuals like SM2 won't be getting that here.
THE PLANE SCENE IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH AND DOES NOT LOOK THAT GOOD!!
I know people were expecting an awesome HULK smash movie but were teriibly dissapointed when they watched it because they found out it was a PSYCHOLOGICAL DRAMA movie.
If that is what superman becomes. I mean a chick flick with too much ROMANCE and EMOTION with only one or two JUST GOOD action scene NOT AMAZING like SPIDER-MAN 2 then i think SR will end up with 230-250 million domestically.
POTC 2 will be the MOVIE EVENT of the year because it looks like it will be the ultimate action, adventure, comedy and FUN FUN movie of the year.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:19 pm |
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Eventine
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Webslinger wrote: SR's opening obviously will be the determining factor on its legs. If it has a smaller, disappointing opening, it will have good, durable legs like Batman Begins. If it opens big, its legs will be mediocre-average. Even if the former happens, I still don't see it falling below $200 million.
Not necessarily. If BB wasn't so phenomenal, it would've struggled to reach $150 million.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:15 pm |
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Eventine
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ashwani wrote: I think SHAK has a valid point of superman turning off some people.
Those who are expecting an action packed movie with amazing visuals like SM2 won't be getting that here.
THE PLANE SCENE IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH AND DOES NOT LOOK THAT GOOD!!
I know people were expecting an awesome HULK smash movie but were teriibly dissapointed when they watched it because they found out it was a PSYCHOLOGICAL DRAMA movie.
If that is what superman becomes. I mean a chick flick with too much ROMANCE and EMOTION with only one or two JUST GOOD action scene NOT AMAZING like SPIDER-MAN 2 then i think SR will end up with 230-250 million domestically.
POTC 2 will be the MOVIE EVENT of the year because it looks like it will be the ultimate action, adventure, comedy and FUN FUN movie of the year.
I'm not quite sure if this is sarcasm or not. 
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:16 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Eventine wrote: Webslinger wrote: SR's opening obviously will be the determining factor on its legs. If it has a smaller, disappointing opening, it will have good, durable legs like Batman Begins. If it opens big, its legs will be mediocre-average. Even if the former happens, I still don't see it falling below $200 million. Not necessarily. If BB wasn't so phenomenal, it would've struggled to reach $150 million.
Exactly. A low opening does not guarantee legs. WoM does.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:16 pm |
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Excel
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had batman had supermans marketing, it woulda topped 250 million with the wom it got.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:47 pm |
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Eventine
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Pretty much. Not enough people saw on its OW to spread how great it was. WB didn't take that chance.
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:51 pm |
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