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Christian wrote: lennier wrote: Did anyone stay for Fergie's song during the credits?  "Love will be our anchor as we sail as a shippppp" or something like that. I've listened to it a dozen times at work and I think it might be the funniest song ever. They really want that Best Song Oscar. 
Look at the previous winners -
1971 - "Theme from Shaft" from Shaft
1972 - "The Morning After" from The Poseidon Adventure
1978 - "Last Dance" from Thank God It's Friday
1983 - "Flashdance... What a Feeling" from Flashdance
1986 - "Take My Breath Away" from Top Gun
1987 - "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" from Dirty Dancing
1996 - "You Must Love Me" from Evita
2005 - "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" from Hustle & Flow
Recent winners show it isn't that hard to get the trophy.
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Mon May 29, 2006 6:42 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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The theme from Shaft is great 
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Mon May 29, 2006 7:30 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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And What a Feeling is also a great pop tune - stands up better than a lot of the crap from the 80's...
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Mon May 29, 2006 7:46 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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drstrangelove wrote: Oh, bradley witherberry...when you said "the best disaster movie I've ever seen" did you mean to write, "the biggest disaster i've ever seen"? Because that's what this film is....a complete disaster that isn't even entertaining in a campy way. Em Rossum's character does nothing but give us that wide eyed blank stare that Rossum perfected with her (horrid) portrayal of Christine in the film version of Phantom. I didn't care about any of the characters, in fact I hope that most of them would be tossed into the ocean without a boat, paddle, life jacket, or basic swimming skills.
Ick. -2 out of 10.
Welcome to WOKJ, dr strange!
Okay, I'll bite - what is the best disaster movie you have ever seen?
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Tue May 30, 2006 6:33 am |
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makeshift
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Well, I didn't pay for it and I had nothing better to do, so I tagged along with my Dad.
It 'twas okay. It wasn't the complete unmitigated catastrophe I was expecting (although Fergie most certainly is). It had some genuinely tense moments and some solid direction from Petersen, and Emmy Rossum is simply gorgeous. Still, it's incredibly cliche and formulaic and loaded wih piles of cheese with some tremendously bad acting. If you don't go in expecting anything more than an average disaster flick, you may have a decent time.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:23 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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makeshift wrote: Well, I didn't pay for it and I had nothing better to do, so I tagged along with my Dad.
I don't believe I've read a better "disowning responsibility for one's actions" set-up for a review on WOKJ, ever!
Awesome!

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Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:22 am |
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makeshift
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bradley witherberry wrote: makeshift wrote: Well, I didn't pay for it and I had nothing better to do, so I tagged along with my Dad.
I don't believe I've read a better "disowning responsibility for one's actions" set-up for a review on WOKJ, ever! Awesome! 
I can't have people thinking I actually wanted to see this.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:46 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Knowing makeshift the likelihood of him wanting to see this film are about as slim as Kate Moss.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:12 pm |
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zennier
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Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:38 pm Posts: 10316 Location: berkeley
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makeshift, did you at least chuckle a bit when they jumped from the ship, only to find a conveniently stocked life raft waiting for them?
Kevin Dillon was a real charmer, too, no? 
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:47 am |
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makeshift
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lennier wrote: makeshift, did you at least chuckle a bit when they jumped from the ship, only to find a conveniently stocked life raft waiting for them? Kevin Dillon was a real charmer, too, no? 
Of course I did. I was laughing throughout most of the film, actually. I'm not saying I didn't have a good time, 'cos I really did.
Kevin Dillion was the most interesting character in the film, actually. Dude was hilarious.
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:52 am |
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makeshift
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The overt racism was probably the funniest thing about the film, actually.
I couldn't help but laugh when all the charred bodies in the kitchen were minorities. 
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:53 am |
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zennier
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makeshift wrote: The overt racism was probably the funniest thing about the film, actually. I couldn't help but laugh when all the charred bodies in the kitchen were minorities. 
I was pointing this out in the film, too. A few people began hissing me, but quite a few started cracking up as well. The Mexican gets kicked off, the Minorities get charred in the small kitchen. Ahaha.
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:23 am |
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Snrub
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Saw this today, expecting to be moderately entertained or disappointed.
Turns out I thought it was great. I mean... really great. The scene in the air vent was intense, the effects were awesome, the performances more than serviceable - especially Lucas who I've never really bought as an action star before now. I genuinely can't understand how anyone wouldn't enjoy this film?
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:13 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Snrub wrote: Saw this today, expecting to be moderately entertained or disappointed.
Turns out I thought it was great. I mean... really great. The scene in the air vent was intense, the effects were awesome, the performances more than serviceable - especially Lucas who I've never really bought as an action star before now. I genuinely can't understand how anyone wouldn't enjoy this film?
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Apparently, you don't know what you're talking about...

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The Dark Shape
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Snrub wrote: Saw this today, expecting to be moderately entertained or disappointed.
Turns out I thought it was great. I mean... really great. The scene in the air vent was intense, the effects were awesome, the performances more than serviceable - especially Lucas who I've never really bought as an action star before now. I genuinely can't understand how anyone wouldn't enjoy this film?
I can't understand how anyone would. It's the drooling retarded kid of summer blockbusters.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:39 pm |
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Gulli
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The best summer movie so far. i have no idea why people wouldn't like this. yes the character's aren't much more then cut-out's and a lot of the set-up you can see coming a mile off but for big screen entertainment it's brilliant. the whole rouge wave sequence was my first WOW moment in the cinema this year and the action kept up after at a brisk pleasing pace.
Not sure if i'll enjoy this as much on the small screen but on the Big it was more then adequate.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:09 pm |
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Webslinger
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I finally got around to seeing the film over the weekend that just passed, and I must admit that I enjoyed it. After a slow start, it picked up fast, and though the character development was minimal, I still wound up caring about the characters, except for Lucky Larry, who, ironically, wasn't so lucky after all.
However, the movie did have some things I couldn't look past. First, the obvious: a rogue wave that big flipping a ship of Poseidon's size upside down? Second, it seemed like everyone in the group had the traditional "special talent/ability" that coincidentally comes in handy in tough spots. (Like how Kurt Russell's character "used to be a firefighter.) Now, if you were really in this situation, it would be a sigh of relief, but it's become something of a cliche in movies. Third, I didn't think the movie was long enough, and there should have been more character interaction before the ship is capsized, and there should have been something (like a memorial service for Kurt Russell's character) after they were rescued, just for good measure.
Still, the basic point is that Poseidon is ridiculous, but fun, and allows its top-notch visual effects to serve as excellent eye candy.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:36 pm |
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Snrub
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Gullimont-Kyro wrote: The best summer movie so far. i have no idea why people wouldn't like this. yes the character's aren't much more then cut-out's and a lot of the set-up you can see coming a mile off but for big screen entertainment it's brilliant. the whole rouge wave sequence was my first WOW moment in the cinema this year and the action kept up after at a brisk pleasing pace. Not sure if i'll enjoy this as much on the small screen but on the Big it was more then adequate.
A It's odd isn't it, I came out genuinely perplexed as to how anyone couldn't enjoy it. I agree about the character development - what was there was minimal at best, but they established character tropes through their actions. By the end I was firmly attached to everyone, regardless of how little information I had about them or their past. And the scenario doesn't really lend itself to long, clumsy dialogues. It's a group of people trying their best to survive in an incredibly intense scenario. Some of it could've been a bit better I suppose, but most of it's just nit-picking. Yes the character introductions were leaden with fairly wooden dialogue, yes it was a bit shit that not a single racial minority made it out alive, yes you could foresee Lucky Larry's death a mile off - but I was on the edge of my seat throughout the whole thing regardless. It was a series of old formulas and clichés condensed into a quick, satisfying, intense popcorn blockbuster. Call me old-fashioned, but I quite like that in some films. What it did well, it did very well. And what it did badly didn't bother me enough to take me out of the experience.
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The Dark Shape
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What was intense about it?
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:26 pm |
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Snrub
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The Dark Shape wrote: What was intense about it? The lift shaft scene, the vent scene, the thingy tank flooding sequence - it was just all very well executed, hell, I was even on the edge of my seat when Kurt Russell and Emmy Rossum slid across the fire hose. The last time I experienced claustrophobia like this in a film was The Descent. The vent sequence is a perfect example of why I think this film was a cut above many other disaster flicks. In an ordinary film of this type, it would've been enough to have them struggle to climb, the water rising above them and the grate being screwed shut. But that wasn't enough. They had Richard Dreyfuss get stuck, Mia Maestro go paralytic with claustrophobia... in every sequence where the characters encountered an obstacle, several more were thrown on top for good measure. Everytime I was on the edge of my seat, problems piled on and on, making the situations increasingly dire. But bollocks to me... after I saw the film, I read Empire's review, and it says everything I want to say, but better: Empire wrote: Wolfgang Petersen opens his remake/re-imagining/retread of 1972's The Poseidon Adventure - the prototypical disaster movie and still, perhaps, the best-loved example of the genre - with a stunning 360-degree aerial shot of the magnificent ocean liner gliding serenely through a mill-pond ocean as the sunset dapples the horizon with postcard perfection. It's a wonderful shot for several reasons. First, it gives us a bird's eye view of the mighty, elegant vessel that we know will, in the next 20 minutes, be flipped on its belly by a gigantic rogue wave, its luxurious opulence transformed into a horrifying, watery grave for the vast majority of its well-heeled passengers. This is classic and highly effective appetite-whetting; the calm before the storm. It is also, although you might not realise it at the time, a foretaste of the superb special effects that lie in store. According to Petersen, every element of the shot - save the lone figure of Josh Lucas, as professional gambler Dylan Johns, limbering up by jogging round the deck - was created in the computer. This should instil every confidence that the movie's signature set-piece, the 150-foot killer wave smashing broadside into the Poseidon and rolling it over, will be every bit as awe-inspiring as it needs to be.A combination of CG and live-action shot from inside and outside the ship, above and below the water level, the sequence is marked by shocking violence, as actors and extras are thrown around like rag dolls. Only when it comes to an end do you realise you've stopped breathing. Being an unapologetic disaster flick of the old school, Poseidon does possess all the other salient features that go hand-in-hand with catastrophe, destruction and death. In the necessary but clumsy expository scenes, where we are introduced to the motley crew of survivors-to-be whose fortunes we will follow once it all goes pear-shaped, the meetings are a little too cute for comfort and the dialogue is cheesier than a bathful of nacho dip. But thankfully Petersen keeps these encounters brief, giving us only as much information as is required for us to give a toss whether they live or die. With a core group of ten characters to introduce, this is done with admirable economy. And, as is true throughout the movie, when the hokiness reaches crisis point, you have to hand it to Petersen for embracing the clichés that are so integral to the disaster movie code. Thus, fighting for survival as they forge their way up and out of the stricken ship, their number depleted at regular intervals as tradition demands, we have the stoic loner (Lucas), the suicidal gay man (Richard Dreyfuss), the beautiful single mother with the tousle-headed kid (Jacinda Barrett and Jimmy Bennett), the taciturn concerned dad, ex-fireman and ex-mayor of New York (Kurt Russell), the star-crossed young lovers (Emmy Rossum and Mike Vogel), the mysterious stowaway (Mía Maestro) and the cocky young waiter (Freddy Rodríguez). It's as fine a collection of archetypes as you could wish for. And once the wave hits, there's little time for stirring speeches or sentimental guff. In this, Petersen shows that he means business by killing off one of the big names - horribly and shockingly in a scene that demonstrates the price of survival - almost immediately. From the moment the protagonists band together, deciding that their odds are better outside the sealed-off ballroom where the other survivors wait in vain for the rescue helicopters, the action never lets up. Again, this is a genre that calls for drastic suspension of disbelief, but there are certain moments here that are almost unbearably realistic. One such finds the gang wedged into a ventilator shaft - although not your usual movie ventilator shaft, spotlessly clean and wide enough to drive a van through. This is the real thing: cramped, dirty and dark, a heebie-jeebies-inducing death trap. Of course, someone gets stuck, pinning half of the group below as the water rises, and the other up ahead, struggling to unscrew a reluctant grille. As you might expect, it's one of several similar sequences that play heavily on our most primal fears, but nowhere else is the sense of hysterical panic and pure, frantic terror evoked with such excruciating intensity. It's unlikely that Petersen's film will replace its Ronald Neame-directed predecessor in the public's affections. But in sticking closely to a tried-and-tested formula, peppering proceedings with world-class special effects, relentless, nerve-shredding action and characters we actually give a damn about, Poseidon is a more than worthy addition to the canon. Towering Inferno next, perhaps?
Verdict A shot in the arm for the classic disaster movie: awesome effects, nail-biting tension and a cast of characters we don't want dead after half an hour - even, amazingly, the cute kid.
Four Stars.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:45 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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I didn't want the kid dead after a half hour. I wanted him dead the second he showed up on screen.
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:39 pm |
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zennier
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Webslinger wrote: P.O.S.eidon - B The New World - B

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Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:06 am |
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matatonio
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It wasnt a good movie at all, it had some very laughable scenes and it felt like a was watching a made for TV movie!
but it was ...fun and quite enjoyable!
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:32 pm |
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urbanlegend23
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 Poseidon
Poseidon was maybe my most anticipated film of 2006 and looked brilliant from the trailers, but it turned out to be complete crap. I can't believe Wolfgang Petersen, who made 2004's excellent and very underrated Troy, even directed something so bland and by-the-numbers. There was no originality in this film at all. Petersen was even reduced to having Fergie from BEP as one of the cast members, which was such a terribly mainstream and immature move for a usually sophisticated and respectful director. She was there to attract more mainstream audiences and that's the only reason why. Worst of anything, the film lacked any kind of tension. The wave just randomly comes in like the first fifteen minutes and that's it. No build-up, it's just randomly there. The actual scene of the wave crashing into the boat was messed up so terribly! There was absolutely no suspense in that scene at all. It was terribly badly directed. The rest of the film has no tension either, it madly darts from one seen-it-all-before action sequence to another, it's ridiculous how rushed this film is. We don't really care very much about these characters as they're all just cardboard cut-outs and we never get to know them all that well. There were a couple of decent performances, mainly from the supporting females Mia Maestro and Jacinda Barrett. They are the only two performers in the film who add anything resembling depth to their characters. The special effects are good, but there were some opportunities for really cool SFX shots here that were never taken advantage of. This was an enormous disappointment, and seems really overrated around here.
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:31 pm |
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Webslinger
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lennier wrote: Webslinger wrote: P.O.S.eidon - B The New World - B

My Reasoning:
Poseidon- Damn fun film
The New World- Good, but not great. The second hour was really, really slow. People on this site must have seen something much different, not to mention better edited.
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