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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
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For the most part, its the least liked, but it is still given a solid A grade among most users. Believe it or not, even Temple of Doom was a very well loved film.
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Bodrul
All Star Poster
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:21 am Posts: 4694 Location: Cambridge, England.
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RH3 will be big . . . . 80/240
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Opening weekend - $52 million
Total gross - $164 million
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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Let's face it guys, in this day and age you need to have something really special in your hands for a sequel to an action movie from that long ago to really be a blockbuster.

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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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I think this has a little more going for it since it's a buddy comedy as much as, or more than, it's an action film, so that should help it avoid the plight of high-octane action sequels. But it won't increase a la Austin Powers. It'll fall somewhere in between the first one and the second one.
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Skyblade
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Quote: Anyone remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade coming out 5 years after the last, How about the Terminator films or the alien films. Lethal Weapon 4, How bout James Bond returning after 6 years after being delcared dead. Its not the time in between, its the film beforehand.
Terminator 3 did 150 million, less than the last one. It didn't used to affect sequels, but I think the shortening attention spans and deluge of sequels makes a difference,
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Supafroius
Star Trek XI
Joined: Thu May 11, 2006 10:59 am Posts: 370
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A catchy trailer would probably be the deciding factor in this movie outgrossing the second one. Without a trailer to watch im thinking this could do close to the mark of the second film assuming it's got the quality of the originals. Could Xmen 3's success or failure have any factors on this since it's the same director? Dunno but I suppose it's something to think about as well.
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TheMovieman
Waitress in LA
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 5:43 pm Posts: 27 Location: Oregon
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I think once a trailer comes out, people will get real excited real quick. Unlike MI3, people aren't tired of Chris Tucker or Jackie Chan because, well, they haven't really done anything since '01 (which I realize might detrimentally effect RH3). While MI3 was a fun movie, the comedy aspect for RH3 will get more people in. Basically, the time in between 2 and 3 won't matter for this IMO.
$70m / $250m
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Thu May 11, 2006 3:29 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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IT WILL MATTER BUT NOT AS MUCH
60/200
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21856 Location: Walking around somewhere
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T3 though was considered one of the worst ideas from a fans perspective. It lost Carpenter, and Hamilton and Furlong, and had Arnold at his lowest point in his career. T3 turned around however and was a huge success WW and was still a big hit domestically, Arnold's 2nd biggest of all time. But I will remain constant that what Hurt T3 from have a sub 50% drop was Pirates opening on that Wed, otherwise we would have seen a gross closer to 175 million.
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Thu May 11, 2006 4:06 pm |
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El Maskado
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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excel wrote: IT WILL MATTER BUT NOT AS MUCH
60/200
One thing I dont get is your prediction, you have one of the highest prediction yet you say the movie will disappoint and have backlash. The samething happened with your MI3 prediction where you said that theres Cruise backlash and yet you still kept your prediction at 200 million. So what gross is considered disappointing
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Thu May 11, 2006 5:40 pm |
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This is one of the best received franchises in some time. Rush Hour 2 shocked ALOT of people, when it finished 2nd in the summer, ahead of The Mummy 2, PH, AI, Jurassic Park 3, etc. It wasn't expected by many to even make it to the top 5 for that summer, as the first opened in Sept, and was thought to have done so extra well due to lack of competition. Don't underestimate the 3rd film, because the 2nd was the underdog as well, and we all know how that turned out...
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Thu May 11, 2006 6:29 pm |
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Excel
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well, mi3 tried to kick off a much hyped may summer season. i can see rush hour 3 opening in a uncrowded august to 60 million and having a good multiplier into september.
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Thu May 11, 2006 6:41 pm |
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Extraordinary
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Rush Hour 2 adjusts to close to $80 m opening/$275 m finish by the time of the third's release. I think this third one will do $70 m+, and could approach $80 m, and finish with $250 m +.
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Thu May 11, 2006 6:44 pm |
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El Maskado
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Would having the name from the director of X-3 help RH3 potential?
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Tue May 30, 2006 6:55 pm |
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Skyblade
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No. If Sam Raimi was directing Rush Hour 3, it wouldn't make a difference. Maybe Peter Jackson, as he's sort of a celebrity director.
The six year absence is going to hurt it, just like Mission: Impossible III. Plus, the two players have been missing in action.
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Tue May 30, 2006 6:59 pm |
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El Maskado
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It wont be as bad as MI3 because it didnt get bad WOM from the previous installment nor are people staying away from the movie because of the star. The 6 year gap hurts but not as badly as MI3
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Tue May 30, 2006 7:01 pm |
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Skyblade
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But does Rush Hour 2 have signifgantly better word of mouth than MI2? They were both dumb movies that gave the audience what they wanted. It hlps you have a hit, but distlls loyalty.
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Tue May 30, 2006 7:03 pm |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
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Skyblade wrote: But does Rush Hour 2 have signifgantly better word of mouth than MI2? They were both dumb movies that gave the audience what they wanted. It hlps you have a hit, but distlls loyalty.
RH1 has 6.6 at imdb
MI1 has 6.6 at imdb
RH2 has 6.4 at imdb
MI2 has 5.2 at imdb
so yes its significantly better than MI2 and MI2 grade dropped by 1 from the previous installment
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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Differences between MI:3 and Rush Hour 3
1) Rush Hour 2 was very well received, MI:2 was poorly. 3.36 multiplier for a big sequel opening, with American Pie 2 in it's second weekend. That's excellent.
2) Rush Hour 3 will be a comedy, MI:3 was part of the "shit blowing up" genre which is DEAD AS FUCK right now.
3) Rush Hour 3 will have Chan and Tucker, who people still like. MI:3 had Cruise, who single handily created a backlash towards the film.
Also, the competition won't hurt it that much guys. Looking at the schedule, it's one of the two big movies of the month. Bourne Ultimatum, and Rush Hour 3. Bourne has similar action, but it's also deathly serious. This should still be able to coincide with it as the one-two August punch. It's also the only really big comedy of the month, it'll be fine. As for AvP2, it will do 20-25 mil opening weekend at best, which isn't enough to hurt it anything significantly.
71/210
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Shack
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Come to think of it, Bourne should probably be one worried about MI:3's performance, not Rush Hour. What's more similar? A buddy-cop comedy, or a big budget spy/action movie where things continously blow up. I know which one I'd pick.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23250 Location: Melbourne Australia
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I dont see why this wont do well - it will be a huge hit. Biggest thing going against it is probably competition from Bourne 3 - but otherwise $72m opening and $190-$210m finish.
One set i the US, Two set in Asia and now Three set in Europe - i think the change in settings bodes well for it - keeping it fresh.
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Skyblade
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Quote: 1) Rush Hour 2 was very well received, MI:2 was poorly. 3.36 multiplier for a big sequel opening, with American Pie 2 in it's second weekend. That's excellent. It was rell-receieved in a "That's what the doctor ordered" kind of way...but there's "well receieved" and "people have the hungering for more". Quote: 2) Rush Hour 3 will be a comedy, MI:3 was part of the "shit blowing up" genre which is DEAD AS FUCK right now. Please. Mr. and Mrs. Smith was a total shit blows up movie and that did fine--blaming Mission: Impossible III's performance on its genre is right behind saying it was because of a Mercury Retrograde. Quote: 3) Rush Hour 3 will have Chan and Tucker, who people still like. MI:3 had Cruise, who single handily created a backlash towards the film. It's hard to tell whether people like them, as the two's output has been scarce to nil over the years--Chan hasn't had a hit since the last Rush Hour, and Tucker hasn't done anything. Quote: Come to think of it, Bourne should probably be one worried about MI:3's performance, not Rush Hour. What's more similar? A buddy-cop comedy, or a big budget spy/action movie where things continously blow up. I know which one I'd pick.
The last Bourne came out three years ago, (a perfect spacing) and the movies have much more of a loyal following.
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Tue May 30, 2006 10:51 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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Skyblade wrote: Quote: 1) Rush Hour 2 was very well received, MI:2 was poorly. 3.36 multiplier for a big sequel opening, with American Pie 2 in it's second weekend. That's excellent. It was rell-receieved in a "That's what the doctor ordered" kind of way...but there's "well receieved" and "people have the hungering for more".
There's an A at cinemascore which happens 3 or 4 times a year at best.
Same as X2 actually.
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Tue May 30, 2006 11:01 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15497 Location: Everywhere
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Shack wrote: Come to think of it, Bourne should probably be one worried about MI:3's performance, not Rush Hour. What's more similar? A buddy-cop comedy, or a big budget spy/action movie where things continously blow up. I know which one I'd pick.
 Stuff keeps blowing up in Bourne? You have like one big explosion in each movie. It's more similar with Da Vinci and National Treasure then MI3 and the like I'd say. This is the type of action thriller that's doing well.
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