http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00129.html
The best article I've seen on the subject.
The real conspiracy is that the govt wants people to believe like Loyal does that they would have shot down the plane.

I'm not even sure United 93 went down in Pennsylvania.

Hold up on the conspiracy theories.

I was just answering what Archie said about THE MAN shooting down UA 93.

I am not sure what grade to give the film, for he first half of the film I was thinking more about where I was at these moments, but the film left me with the same feeling I felt after 9/11...like there was a complete lack of leadership.

I think the film was well made, and I was glad Greengrass di dnot shy away from showing the action on the plane being very violent.

Interesting film, far better then I expected from the trailers.

Here is a quote from the washingtonpost article from the link that was posted earlier.



Why is it we forget that when Payne Stewart's plane went off course for a very brief amount of time jet fighters were sent scrambling too it without a blink of an eye.

Why is we forget that that plane was shot down to prevent it from crashing in a populated location.

Why must we continually be told that pilots need Authorization from the president to shoot down aircraft as VP cheney tried to claim on Meet the Press a few days after 9/11.

There were so many SOP that weren't followed that day that one cannot blame this on pure ignorance or by being "blind-sided" or "unprepared" or whatever other excuse people want to throw in our face like we're total imbeciles. The military is not that dumb to just Let hijacked planes, off course planes, planes with their transponders turned off just fly to their targets unimpeded. If that's the case of what happened on 9/11 then Hell truly froze over, pigs really did fly and the sun Is the center of the universe. Clearly the story of 9/11 is Incomplete.

I haven't seen United 93 and even though I know it's pure propaganda I still want to see it for the purpose of comparing it to all the great reviews people have given it and looking into how it fits into the whole 9/11 lore as a whole.

I just found out that President Bush has begun referring to the War on Terror® as WWIII.

Specifically, regarding United 93, Bush said: "I believe that it was the first counter-attack to World War III."

Maybe I should start taking this movie more seriously...

Ohohohohoh, that brings back some interesting memories back on BOM.

We snagged bradley. Bit of a surprise, I must say.

Loyal vs. the forum!

I'm not sure I would tout that particular documentary too strongly. It certainly does cover some of the key gaps in information, but it is pretty darn light on documentation. Plus, that Urkel-voiced narrator isn't helping the whole enterprise - they need to get a voice of doom guy like James Earl Jones or Morgan Freeman to impart some gravity to the film. Though it may serve as an introduction to those who've only been bottle-fed the media version of the 9/11 story, it isn't what I had in mind when I mentioned this earlier in the thread:

bring it.

Haha, we have been for the week, and I don't think it's too hard to see who won.

Anyways, told ya so bradley... remind me of what your old name back on BOM used to be...

Thoroughly engaging, and I was very sure the whole way that my feeling had nothing to do with what happened on the day of 9/11, but how the film is made. Seeing the second plane hitting the tower would still give me chill regardless; seeing the chaos in different centers would still make my heart pound. To me, what's on screen is certainly gripping by itself. A-.

An amazing film. I saw it almost two hours ago and the movie is still haunting me -- the last shot just keeps playing in my mind -- the passengers struggling with the hijackers, Peter Hermann's green shirt showing prominantly in the shot as he struggled with the hijackers, and the plane going for the ground as the screen just goes black. It was a chilling, intense experience. It was hard to get through. I saw it with my mom, and towards the end she told me it was too much and she wanted to leave. I'll even admit that I cried through most of the movie. I started crying when we saw the second plane hit the tower and the people just watched in shock from their control center. Then the whole end of the movie, with the passengers planning their attack.. it was almost too much to handle. I'm glad I saw the movie. While I probably will not see it again because of its intensity, it was an amazing experience and a well made movie. It's a movie that everyone should see.

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That ties into the whole "it'll do for now"

Not for me, even though I thought it was a great film.

well bradley still think its a conspiracy..but that the film is well made.

Bradley should be commended from separating the 'film' from the political/conspiracy aspects of it.

Some can't separate the two.

For the record, I've been not a fan since page one/opening day. Stop giving loyal all the credit. :o

My theory is that Flight 93 had no terrorists on it at all. Clearly someone on board had evidence proving Bush was complicit in various terrorist activities. Bush used his terrorist ties (namely, family friend Bin Laden), to quickly throw together the WTC attack, thereby providing him with a reason to shoot down Flight 93.

I only wish Bauer had been on board.

Master of the obvious, as always, eh loyal?

HA

I give that post 6 out of 5.

That made me laugh, loyal.

You hereby win the argument.

Not really, though.

I saw this movie again, this time with a true believer in the official story.

The funniest part in the movie, that jumped out on second viewing was the hilarious juxtaposition of the two sides praying to God. This is especially funny, given the fact that Muslims and Christians (and Jews for that matter) pray to the exact same God - now that's quality irony!

Interestingly, the person I went with, someone who can quote Popular Mechanics, by chapter and verse as if it were the Bible, didn't enjoy the film as much as me.