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greasedlightning wrote:
Ausiello posted this interview as soon as the episode finished airing. Evidently, Ana Lucia was always a one season character. No mention of Cynthia Watros actually being killed, so perhaps she survives.

And I agree, I think Michael justm ight be an other now.

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Ausiello: Was it always your intention to use Ana Lucia as a one-season character?
Damon Lindelof: A lot of this is going to sound like spin, so all we can give you is our word that this is exactly what happened. Around late February of last year, we started throwing our respective lines in the water to find the leader of the tail section, who we knew was going to be a Latina woman and who would be conceived as a romantic foil for Jack. We wanted her to be in her mid-thirties and be a detective from the LAPD. So we started putting out feelers unofficially because we wanted her to show up in the penultimate episode of last year. That way, when we started our plan for Season 2, it wouldn't feel like we had pulled her out of our asses. So, right around that time...
Carlton: I got a call from Michelle's agent saying, "Would you guys be interested in Michelle Rodriguez? But she's really only interested in being on the show for a year."
Damon: So we basically said, "A year is not necessarily ideal for us, but let's bring in Michelle and have the meeting." And she came in and met with Carlton and I and then, in the last 15 minutes, J.J. [Abrams] happened to be across the way doing some Alias stuff and he came over and sat down with her and we just hung out with her and chatted. It turned out that she worked in Hawaii on Blue Crush and knew a lot of people down there. But she made it very clear in that meeting that she's sort of a nomadic spirit and she did not want to commit to doing any more than [one season]. She wanted to do one kickass arc, as she described it, and we basically started to wrap our brains around her energy and say, "Yeah, we'll bring you on the show and then we'll kill you off at the end of the year." And she was totally cool with it and we were totally cool with it, and we parted ways and talked amongst ourselves. Obviously, the network and the studio normally don't want to get into a situation where they're not making multiyear deals, but we assured them that this was in fact the plan, and that even if Michelle was a rocking sensation on the show, we were going to stick to the plan. So they signed off on it and made the deal accordingly.

Ausiello: And then the DUI...
Carlton: Then she got this DUI and Damon and I looked at each other and we were like, "Oh, great. Everybody is going to think we're killing her off because she got a DUI." But there really wasn't anything we could do about that. I mean, the story was set. We had made plans. With Lost, we think it out well ahead of when we actually shoot it. We thought about altering our plan, but [this] was in fact what was best for the show. The fact that she got a DUI would come and go and what would live on would be the show, and our plan was still the best plan for the character. Ironically, we actually thought about changing it the other way around once [the DUI] happened, but it really was the best story. We wanted to tell the best story.
Damon: And obviously that decision was further mitigated by the fact that Libby is shot at the same time as Ana Lucia. Basically then we said, "Oh, s--t. Both Michelle and Cynthia were busted the same night for DUI and we've got this story point coming up where they essentially both get shot at the same time, so it's going to look like this is the Lost producers attempt to say, 'Don't drive drunk!'" But as Carlton says, all it created in us was [the thought that], "Maybe we shouldn't do the plan now, 'cause people are going to think this is a reaction to [the DUIs], as opposed to this [plan] existing prior to that event."
Carlton: As you'll see, everything that happens for the rest of the season all sort of falls from this event. And we're not doing ourselves or the fans of the show or the show itself any service by altering those plans because of Michelle's extracurricular activities.
Damon: Not to mention that we didn't even know if that option would be available to us. We were still functioning under the auspices of that meeting, which was Michelle saying, "I want to do a year and then move on."

Ausiello: Did you meet with Michelle to make sure everyone was still on the same page?
Damon: Michelle happened to be [in Los Angeles] and she came by to see us. We basically said to her, "So we’re going to stay on course." And at that point, Michelle was kinda like, "Hey, I'm living in Hawaii...." She might have been able to wrap her brain around [staying] a little bit longer on the show, but she did not say, "I want to stay on the show!" She was basically like, "Yeah. That's a good plan."
Carlton: And once we told her what was happening, she was incredibly supportive. She thought it was sort of a kickass way to go, and she got very on board with the idea of how she was going to be exiting the show.

Ausiello: Rumor has it she was a hard-ass on the set and everyone hated her. Care to set the record straight?
Damon: We're not in Hawaii on the set so all we can speak to is our working relationship with Michelle and what we have heard from the other actors and directors on the show, and we never heard anything remotely resembling that she was a hard-ass. You know, she's Michelle. She's got a very playful spirit. But she's totally professional and got along well with all the other actors. We get calls over the course of our career about difficult actors. We did not get those calls about Michelle.

That just reeks of spin control to me. They even had their story all planned out, finishing each others sentences.


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It's simple. He shot Ana-Lucia because she killed some of the Others, Libby because she came out of nowhere by accident, and himself so that it looked like Gale escaped and went on a total rampage. He did it because the Others told him to do so and he would get his son back. Everything he said about the Others was more than likely a lie.


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After so many reruns, ABC botched this episode by not pumping it up moreso. Considering two cast members are likely gone, I just happened to change the channel and notice it was a new Lost.


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BacktotheFuture wrote:
It's simple. He shot Ana-Lucia because she killed some of the Others, Libby because she came out of nowhere by accident, and himself so that it looked like Gale escaped and went on a total rampage. He did it because the Others told him to do so and he would get his son back. Everything he said about the Others was more than likely a lie.

Oh that makes sense. Thanks! I thought Michael had a major mental breakdown and took all of his anger then finally felt guilty for it and shot himself.

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


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MG Casey wrote:
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It's simple. He shot Ana-Lucia because she killed some of the Others, Libby because she came out of nowhere by accident, and himself so that it looked like Gale escaped and went on a total rampage. He did it because the Others told him to do so and he would get his son back. Everything he said about the Others was more than likely a lie.

Oh that makes sense. Thanks! I thought Michael had a major mental breakdown and took all of his anger then finally felt guilty for it and shot himself.

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


If he had a huge mental breakdown I just don't think he'd be saying sorry to Ana-Lucia before he shot her, and then shooting himself in the arm rather than the head.


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My quest to prove that Libby is not dead. My first piece of evidence, from the interview that was posted:

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And obviously that decision was further mitigated by the fact that Libby is shot at the same time as Ana Lucia


He said shot, not killed! Ugh, I'm probably wrong, but there's hope! I just think the character had so much potential and I would have really liked to know what was going on with the whole psych ward thing.


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Also, they've been generous, and given Shannon, Ana Lucia flashbacks before they were cut. With Hurley's flashback, we get a teaser of what Libby's might be, so I don't see her not getting one before leaving the island. That's the biggest clue imo that she'll still be around...


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OK...you all know I love this show and its twists.

But I was literally in shock, jaw dropped to the freaking floor when Michael shot Ana Lucia *and* Libby.

We know Ana Lucia is dead considering she slumped over and everything, but is Libby actually dead?


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I don't think Libby is dead. I mean it seems fishy that she was named to be in a new pilot, but I don't think they'd kill her off just yet either -- especially since they just revealed she was in the psych ward with Hurley.


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Okay, so my reception was bad, but whats this about Michael killing himself?


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greasedlightning wrote:
I don't think Libby is dead. I mean it seems fishy that she was named to be in a new pilot, but I don't think they'd kill her off just yet either -- especially since they just revealed she was in the psych ward with Hurley.


Yeah, I don't think she's dead either. I hope she isn't...I like her. :mad:


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Exactly what I was thinking BTTF. To add on to your explanation, let me say that this was the master plan that Gale had, and he has been playing the lostaways this whole time.

Here's what I think happened:

Michael finds the others very soon after he leaves, and he agrees to help them in exchange for getting Walt back.

When Jack and co. come looking for Michael, Bearded Man makes up some shit about a "line that should not be crossed" and sends them away. Now, whenever Jack wants to find the others, the others know exactly where he will go: To where the "line" is.

The others send out Gale to get captured.

When Sayid goes to look for the balloon, Gale mentions how if it were him, he would try to trade prisoners, knowing full well that Jack will take this idea into consideration.

When Jack does go to make the trade, he goes to the "line". The others, who knew that he would go there, see him come and eventually give him Michael.

Meanwhile, Gale, who knows that Jack has probably found Michael by now, tries to kill Ana-lucia, knowing full well that she will want revenge...

...So that once Michael comes back and tells them that they can fight the others, ana-lucia will stay behind because she'll think that Jack and co. will be too busy planning, getting guns, etc. to worry about her.

Once Ana-lucia, michael, and Gale are alone in the hatch, everything falls into place. Gale knows Ana lucia won't have the balls to kill him, and Michael has the perfect excuse to get the gun from her: revenge for taking Walt from him.

The fact that Gale did not do anything when Michael opened the door makes me think that Gale is in on the plan,and that he will allow Michael to frame him so that Michael can become the newest mole for the others.

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And they called this episode "two for the road" which of course is a reference to drinking before you drive.


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Michael did shoot himself in the arm, right?

I'm assuming he's releasing Henry Gale and making it look like Gale wounded Michael and shot ANa Lucia and Libby on his way out. My guess is that Michael has either been brainwashed by the others or they convinced him he could have Walt back if he released Gale.


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Positive Jon wrote:
Okay, so my reception was bad, but whats this about Michael killing himself?


Again, michael shot himself in the arm, so that it will be more believable when he tells Jack that Gale escaped and started shooting up the place. Since Locke has just told Jack that Gale tried to kill AL, Jack will have no problem believing that he tried to do it again,

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Libs wrote:
Michael did shoot himself in the arm, right?

I'm assuming he's releasing Henry Gale and making it look like Gale wounded Michael and shot ANa Lucia and Libby on his way out. My guess is that Michael has either been brainwashed by the others or they convinced him he could have Walt back if he released Gale.


I am 99.5% certain this is it.


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I know he's "acting" and just a character, but Michael is now my absolute least favorite character. There is "cool" villain in the sense of Sawyer, but Michael has just been "whine, whine, whine" and does nothing to help anyone else....today's episode he just beat out Ana-Lucia and Charlie as the worst..


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MG Casey wrote:

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


Im going to disagree with you there. I am sick of shows saying "In this episode... SOMEONE DIES!" It completely decreases the impact someone's death would have, cause you're expecting it.

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rolandka19 wrote:
greasedlightning wrote:
I don't think Libby is dead. I mean it seems fishy that she was named to be in a new pilot, but I don't think they'd kill her off just yet either -- especially since they just revealed she was in the psych ward with Hurley.


Yeah, I don't think she's dead either. I hope she isn't...I like her. :mad:


Me too. I think that there is still something about her we don't know and I don't fully trust her... I don't actually trust her at all... but I really like her character.


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O wrote:
I know he's "acting" and just a character, but Michael is now my absolute least favorite character. There is "cool" villain in the sense of Sawyer, but Michael has just been "whine, whine, whine" and does nothing to help anyone else....today's episode he just beat out Ana-Lucia and Charlie as the worst..


I disagree. I think what he did was wrong, but his son is more important than any other person on that island, and getting his son back is more important than keeping those people safe. If I was on that island and I had a kid and I got separated from them, you're damn right I'm going to do anything I can to get my child back.


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Squee wrote:
MG Casey wrote:

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


Im going to disagree with you there. I am sick of shows saying "In this episode... SOMEONE DIES!" It completely decreases the impact someone's death would have, cause you're expecting it.


I seriously had no idea.

The episode where Shannon died had been hyped so much that you weren't really surprised when she bit the bullet (literally).

I guess this is kind of karma for Ana Lucia, though. She shot Shannon and now she's dead from another gunshot...


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greasedlightning wrote:
O wrote:
I know he's "acting" and just a character, but Michael is now my absolute least favorite character. There is "cool" villain in the sense of Sawyer, but Michael has just been "whine, whine, whine" and does nothing to help anyone else....today's episode he just beat out Ana-Lucia and Charlie as the worst..


I disagree. I think what he did was wrong, but his son is more important than any other person on that island, and getting his son back is more important than keeping those people safe. If I was on that island and I had a kid and I got separated from them, you're damn right I'm going to do anything I can to get my child back.


No, but even before Walt was taken, and he was building the raft, it was just whine, whine, whine from him. It isn't like I dislike Michael just because of today's episode, since the beginning he's just whined over and over...


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Libs wrote:
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MG Casey wrote:

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


Im going to disagree with you there. I am sick of shows saying "In this episode... SOMEONE DIES!" It completely decreases the impact someone's death would have, cause you're expecting it.


I seriously had no idea.

The episode where Shannon died had been hyped so much that you weren't really surprised when she bit the bullet (literally).

I guess this is kind of karma for Ana Lucia, though. She shot Shannon and now she's dead from another gunshot...

Yeah she can cross that one off her list now.


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Libs wrote:
Squee wrote:
MG Casey wrote:

Agreed on the hyping of the episode. This was a BIG one!!!


Im going to disagree with you there. I am sick of shows saying "In this episode... SOMEONE DIES!" It completely decreases the impact someone's death would have, cause you're expecting it.


I seriously had no idea.

The episode where Shannon died had been hyped so much that you weren't really surprised when she bit the bullet (literally).

I guess this is kind of karma for Ana Lucia, though. She shot Shannon and now she's dead from another gunshot...


And both Shannon's death and her death were indirectly caused by Walt. Looks like Walt learned a little something about karma from his guest appearance on My Name Is Earl.

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