Seriously - superman is being over predicted. I know alot of non regular movie goers who cant wait for X3 - but Superman look like a rehash of the 1978 version. The way I see it, WB i releasing it so it will dissapoint. A week later POTC2 opens. I guess BV sees Superman as no greater threat than T3 was back in 03.

Superman will be solid with $180-$210m.

X3 is aiming for $220-$240m.

Lol, you have no clue.

This is a toughie

Xmen is an established and proven franchise and is following the comic book story line. However, the people helming it aren't the same
Superman became a dead franchise yet WB and the director are taking a serious and positive approach to it.
Xmen is doing a terrific job of informing the market about the film and what is in store. Sadly, outside of fans who love it, the reaction has been ... mixed.
Superman has had shit ass marketing. The only good piece of marketing they have is that shield poster and a showest reel that about 900 people saw. Yet superman is the most famous and most iconic of all heroes.
Xmen opens in May, possibility of breaking out completely. SUperman opens July, guaranteed numbers .. just not so high.

Can't say really. I can see them both disappoint. I can see them both make it big. For now, I'll go with Supes just edging xmen cause i have a feeling that xmen won't have good legs due to a mixed word of mouth.

by good WOM, i mean it can pull of those 2.85 mulitpliers. i still think x3 will open huge. just won't have a good multiplier.

I'm sure X-Men 3 will be even worse, less interesting and even more tedious than its two predecessors. In other words: It will most likely win this box office race.

Well, judging by reviews and box office, most people liked both X-Men and X2. I loved both X-Men and X2, but maybe since you hate them i should rethink things.

X3, even with what will be extreme frontloadedness, is still sure to make more than SR. X3 will finish in the 230-260mil range, while SR has too many cons and not nearly enough pros in terms of marketing and hype. Let's leave out quality for a minute, or even say that SR is going to be a great movie (yeah...right). That doesn't matter. It won't have a huge opening as its marketing is non-existant (enough of this "but they're REALLY going to push it in the last month before it comes out. REALLY") and even with good WOM it is going against POTC2 in its 2nd weekend.
This isn't like Batman Begins either. BB came off an 8 yr absence from the Batman and Robin debacle, had pretty okay marketing (better than SR), and got great reviews. It had a good opening weekend, and managed to get to 205mil.
SR is coming off of...nothing. The last superman movie was almost 20 yrs ago, and the last WELL RECEIVED superman movie was over 25 yrs ago. People don't care about superman anymore. Add to that the fact that the teaser was yawn inspiring, and what do you get? A sub-par opening weekend, and mediocre legs that may not even get it to 200mil.
X3 is going to have a colossal opening to make up for its crappy legs. If X3 manages a 115mil opening (4 day) and gets just a 2.1mult then that still puts it at a 240mil total.

x3 won't open to it.

bump time. Anyone change their minds after the trailer?

I have to admit that the Superman trailer is rather underwhelming. I definitely give X-Men 3 the edge over Superman now. I wouldn't be surprise if Superman falls way under predictions. They really have to save with TV-marketing, the trailer just doesn't work at all.

X3, easily. Even with the director switch and the stupid name, X3's got a bigger fanbase and it's a sequel people actually want. No one really asked for another Superman movie, but people want to see the finale to the X-Men trilogy. So this is a no-brainer.

X3 - $240 million
Superman Returns - $190 million

SR $400m , X3 $250-$275m excellent gross for both films.

I'd agree with that.

$185-$190m for Superman and around $230m+ for X3. Alot of non comic book fans love the X Men films and I dont feel that as many people will flock to what essentially is a Superman (1978) remake.

Theres still time to decide. X-3 marketting has been non stop and its guaranted to get the second highest opening behind POTC2. The reviews dont seem to be as bad as people were suggesting so Im doubtful about this backlash. It however doesnt look too well for SR because of its last theaterical trailer
X-3 should win with about 20-50 million ahead of SR

We all know that X3 will make anywhere from 210m-250m. SR is a mystery. It wont have X3's OW and it has to deal with Pirates in it's second weekend. So im going with X3, SR i'll give 210m, it could be a bit more or could be a bit less.

I still stand by $235-245 million for X-Men: The Last Stand and $210-220 million for Superman Returns.

Superman Returns


X-3: 240 million
Superman Returns: 260 million

But its doubtful that WB will air 10 min previews of SR on the WB network since all the shows already had their season finale. Fox has the advantage of airing two 10 min previews on a 4 week span of each other on their network

Superman will win.

Usually it seems the first comic flick that comes out ends up being better and making more

X2>Hulk in 03'

BB>F4 in 05'

Wonder if the trend will continue.

superman will win. sorry x3 fans, but itll happen.

No.. I'm afraid your looking at the Summer's Biggest Disappointment in the form of SUPERMAN RETURNS and you can hold me to it.. X3 will do circles around this movie at the box office as SUPERMAN RETURNS will be seen as nothing more than a plastic Donner 1978 SUPERMAN movie wannabe with an actor who's about as Intimidating as Da Torri, which means, he's a PUSS..

Thats almost exactly my prediction aswell.

Infact BKB, Superman is in danger of finishing below or around T3's final number.

What was T3's final domestic tally??? Around 170 Million??? If SR finishes with that, then this movie would almost have to be considered a massive disappointment, hell, even a BOMB when it supposedly cost close to 300 Million to make..

T3 finished with 150mil, and i would LOOOOOOVE it if SR only managed that. I don't think it will happen, but it would be ncie.