At this point, nothing guarantees $200 million for Superman even.

X3, however, has $200+ million pretty much locked up.

But POTC2 will provide HUGE competition. I expect it to open to $100+ million which should lead to a 55-60% 2nd weekend drop of Superman.

But thing is...they won't score a huge opening with no good marketing (as it stands now).

SR will give POTC2 a tougher competition than you think. I see SR playing out like spiderman. Good story, great action, some funny moments and fans bitching about the costume (in this case it's the hero's costume) will equal big $$$$.

to stay on topic

X3 will kick major ass and top $250+ mill. causing all the Ratner haters to take a big one up da ass.

You're suppose to pretend the marketing is gonna be amazing, it's gonna rush people to see the movie opening weekend and you're also suppose to pretend this is gonna be an amazing movie that will have some great drops, gawd Lecter are you stupid or something?

My whole thing is that I dont really care if there happens to be tons of marketing, I just dont think the marketing will be affective. Cause everything i've seen so far tells me it's just one whole big hyperbole, a whole lot of money going down the drain.

once the trailer hits in may watch em jump. BKB being the first one.

You know that part at the end of your post that has the emoticon?? Well this is what I'll be doing come June when SUPERMAN RETURNS is Dubbed SUPERMAN FLOPS.. Bottom Line: Your not seeing me jump on any bandwagon even associated with this movie because it's best run was in the late 70's with the Great Christopher Reeve and it's sequel.. That's where it stops.. Routh looks like a twig for playing the role of "The Man of Steel" and there isn't anything Kevin Spacey is going to do with his role of Lex Luthor that Gene Hackman hasn't already accomplished.. This is the Era of MARVEL and BATMAN aside, DC Comics BLOW compared to MARVEL.. SUPERMAN is a great character, but in an Era like today, in the Present where our Superhero's come to life on the big screen exhibit REAL LIFE PROBLEMS, Where do you go with a Goody Too Shoes like Clark Kent/SUPERMAN???

blah,blah wagon jumper

It's funny because when Superman Returns was supposed to start marketing in January, that was a big plus for excel and the Superman Returns supporters. Now, with the late marketing strategy, it's still a big plus.

WB could not market the film at all and you all would still say that it's going to do great.

$200 million total is not a lock yet.

of course not it's way passed that. it's up to $300m lock.

Okay, enough with the Superman talk here!

I hope we get some good 'phoenix in action' scenes in the movie.

well, 300 million isnt a lock and i dont think ever will be a lock for any film ever again after reloaded didnt get to it. adn BKB totally just took himself out of the argument because he showed how opinionated he is. its not superman, he just hates DC and wants their movies to do worse then marvel ones.

he dont think x3 will beat superman due being better film with better marketing, he thinks it cause thats what he wants to happen. SUPERMAN FLOPS...dude what about x3? what will you say when xmen drop 60+% in its second week? "oh superman will due more with pirates in its second"....magnus, x3s potential is no where near 275 million. i doubt x3 could pass 250 million simply because of the marketign strategy fox is going with. x1 and x2 were money shot filled, action packed trailers and tv spots and had eye catching posters. fox told variety theywere taking a different approach-similar to batman begins-by marketing it as "dark and somber". so just take a note, this one wont build hype as easy as the others did.i see a top out around 240 million and thats just assuming its an amazing movie.

ive said in superman thread if the marketing is batman begin quality, superman might not topple 250 million. its just that when VARIETY is saying superman marketing budget is 75 million (and common sens can inform us they might have spent about 5 million of that), with promo partners-and big ones-up the ass, toy and merchandise sales out the door, nd then over 1500 special effects shots to imcorporated into its tv spots, its pretty easy to get the idea that this movie will be a *pretty* big deal when it comes out. wether the big is 250 million big or 300 million has yet to be answered, but its superman. hes always huge. so right now im going with 300 million.A movie with a marketing that huge that is close to release HAS to get 200 million or else it is the worst film of the year. Pirates 2 will be massive yess, but in reality that has nothing to due with superman. yeah superman might open to 100 million and make 45 million in its second weekend as opposed to 55 million, but superman will have made up for that AND THEN SOME with its inflated SUNDAY MONDAY TUESDAY grosses.

Reloaded (being rated-R) was never a lock for $300 million.

At least by logical people.

clearly you dont remember that films hype. awareness for that movie was 99%, and hype was absurdly high. after 134 million in four days it was quite clear that the r rating didnt effect it. hell id argue matrix had just as much hype then epiosde 3 and its r rating kept it down.

Yes, yes I do.


It was still rated-R and was never a lock for $300 million except by the very few people who always overpredict films.

Only thing that stopped Reloaded from reaching $300 mill is the bad word of mouth it got.
the R rating didn't have shit to do with it. if only it was as good as the first matrix V_V
but since it wasn't well received it fell about $20 mill short of the mark.

People only considered Reloaded a lock for $300 million after it was released ($42 million opening day, you know). Before it was released, the majority had their predictions in the $200-300 million area.

you guys...xmen isnt goin to get 600 millionworide. i doubt itll get even 500, cause itll pull in about 230 overseas, which would mean it needs 270 in u.s. for 500 million ww, highly unlikly.

i can hope

X3 will get around $500 million worldwide.

i say 240/225=465

Yeah, excel is right this time. 500m-600m just isnt happening.