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Joker's Thug #3
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TonyMontana wrote: insomniacdude wrote: TonyMontana wrote: bABA wrote: halo 2 is inferior to halo 1. But, you don't hate Halo 2, do you? That's the exact point I made above... people nitpick the game to death and feel the need to endlessly say why it is better or worse than Halo 1, but hardly anybody hates the game. http://www.halo2sucks.net ? In fact, my dislike of the game increased after I discovered that site. It seemed to put into words everything I was angry about in the game. Anyway, let's move this to the Game Center if you wish to continue this conversation. My original point was that every Halo fan likes Halo 1. Some may not like 2. But there are no fans who like only 2 and not 1. There are actually quite a few that really began playing Halo with #2... my neighbor kid (16 year old) got an Xbox when Halo 2 came out and had only very limited time with the Halo 1 multiplayer game at that time. He tried to play Halo 1 single player after Halo 2 and did not like it near as much and will likely never complete it. He thought the weapons were less varied and exciting, the levels more repetitive, it bugged the shit out of him that he couldn't dual weild, and doesn't have Xbox Live support. And, you can't discuss the movie without discussing the game... the two - and people's perception of them - are directly related and should be discussed when talking about the movie. And, I'll stand by what I originally said.... very few people truly hate Halo 2. It is still cleaning up awards shows (voted on by fans) and is consistantly nominated for game of the year. A disgruntled few constantly feel the need to analyze (a year later) on whether the pistol was better in Halo 1 or whether the AR is better than the SMG, or several other small specific items, but most of those people are still like the game a lot. That's just more of a testament to how truly massive this game is. It's recent G4TV win for game of the year over GTA:SA and RE4 was proof that the fan base is still extremely large. Just proves Halo 2 fanboys are bigger dorks then GTA: SA and RE4, that they would go vote for some crappy award.
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TonyMontana
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Killuminati510 wrote: Just proves Halo 2 fanboys are bigger dorks then GTA: SA and RE4, that they would go vote for some crappy award.
Indeed... a game of the year award by one of the largest (if not the largest) video game media sources is definitely hardly worth it.
The truth is that the Nintendo owners are too busy watching cartoons and going to Elementary School to vote for RE4, and those that own the poor man's video game system (the PS2) can't afford a cable bill and didn't even know to vote for GTA:SA.
The Xbox owners are the only ones old enough and classy enough to figure out how to vote.
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Joker's Thug #3
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TonyMontana wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Just proves Halo 2 fanboys are bigger dorks then GTA: SA and RE4, that they would go vote for some crappy award. Indeed... a game of the year award by one of the largest (if not the largest) video game media sources is definitely hardly worth it. The truth is that the Nintendo owners are too busy watching cartoons and going to Elementary School to vote for RE4, and those that own the poor man's video game system (the PS2) can't afford a cable bill and didn't even know to vote for GTA:SA. The Xbox owners are the only ones old enough and classy enough to figure out how to vote. Thats all probably true, except the RE4 one, it's not that they're too busy with Elemenrary School, it's that nobody bought it because the parents woudlnt let their kiddies get it. Oh well Capcom has learned their lession and wont be putting any RE games on Revolution, it's all 360 & PS3 from here on out for them and every other company that doesnt wanna get screwed. Im off to go play with my Nintendawgs now, see ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TonyMontana
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Killuminati510 wrote: TonyMontana wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Just proves Halo 2 fanboys are bigger dorks then GTA: SA and RE4, that they would go vote for some crappy award. Indeed... a game of the year award by one of the largest (if not the largest) video game media sources is definitely hardly worth it. The truth is that the Nintendo owners are too busy watching cartoons and going to Elementary School to vote for RE4, and those that own the poor man's video game system (the PS2) can't afford a cable bill and didn't even know to vote for GTA:SA. The Xbox owners are the only ones old enough and classy enough to figure out how to vote. Thats all probably true, except the RE4 one, it's not that they're too busy with Elemenrary School, it's that nobody bought it because the parents woudlnt let their kiddies get it. Oh well Capcom has learned their lession and wont be putting any RE games on Revolution, it's all 360 & PS3 from here on out for them and every other company that doesnt wanna get screwed. Im off to go play with my Nintendawgs now, see ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3rd party support was already horrible for Nintendo, but RE4 brought them to a new low, and undoubtedly it will be a long time (or never) before they see a big name 3rd party exclusive. Capcom would have made many more millions with a PS2/Xbox release.... they've got to be kicking themselves.
But, back to Halo the movie...
110 opening
752.4 total
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Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:25 pm |
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Excel
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75/240
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Eagle
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I thought I heard something about peter jacksons name in conjunction with this movie.
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Excel
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hes da produca
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Eagle
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Then I have faith it will be a quality production and will be there opening weekend, I think his name alone will bring credibility to the movie giving it a huge opening ... the legs will be dependant on WOM and quality.
Horrid reviews would hurt it as well.
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Dr. Lecter
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Opening weekend - $42.5 million
Total gross - $105 million
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Biggestgeekever
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IMO, this is one of most unpreditable films in a long time. This could be the biggest film of 2007 or biggest disaster in history. I really want to suceed, because if it does, I think it could open the floodgates for tons of really good and successful video game adaptations. For now I'll say $75/$280.
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The Judge
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Its big because its got Peter Jackson attached to it, which makes all the Jackson fanboys wet their pants.
Critics will be intimidated to write anything negative about the goldenboy of hollywood.
Its big because its about HALO, which makes all the fanboys for the game wet their pants.
My guess is that it will open HUGE and drop off significantly by the second week.
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Tuukka
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It has been proven again and again that a popular game as a source material doesn't guarantee success in any way. People PLAY games, and they WATCH movies. Two entirely different forms of entertainment, with very different goals.
When Super Mario came out, it was based on the BIGGEST videogame franchise ever, with the BEST KNOWN game character ever. And yet the movie flopped.
Doom was based on one of the most popular games of all time. And yet it flopped.
Tomb Raider is the ONLY game movie ever to make more than 100 million, and it had Angelina Jolie at the height of her success. If the film would have been carried by an unknown, it would struggled to reach 50 million. Having a real STAR in the movie helps a great deal.
The thing is, liking a game doesn't mean a person will go to see a movie. Almost every gamer in my age group (25-30) has very fond memories of Doom and sees it as a evergreen classic. Yet almost nobody I know actually went to see the movie. Why? Because everyone thought it looked like crap.
The script reviews for Halo sounded god-awful, because it seemingly had a really lame main character, and poor character- and story-development. But if they re-write it, attach a talented director with talented actors, and make some great trailers, then yeah, it CAN make over 100 million.
...But if they make all that, it can make over 100 million even without the Halo brand.
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Eagle
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Without Jackson this movie wouldn't do half of what it now CAN do. His name brings credibility to a very uncredible sector of movies ... videogame movies.
The fact that is a tentpole for so many companies doesn't hurt either.
I see a 60-80m opening (my guess is around the upper 70's). The legs are so hard to call, a lot (opening and legs) depend on the reviews. 60%+ positive and I see the movie finishing somewhere around 180.
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El Maskado
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Attaching Peter Jackson as a producer to a movie is as significant as puting Ridley Scotts name as a producer. We already learned that Kong didnt gross as much as most people predicted since they really thought that Jacksons name of being LOTR director will push the movie past 250 million and even FOTR gross.
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Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:39 pm |
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zingy
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It's still a tough film to predict without a clear idea of what the film will look like, but...
45/108.
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bABA
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Zingaling wrote: It's still a tough film to predict without a clear idea of what the film will look like, but...
45/108.
if the ad campaign can be good.
else, i see 70 million total now.
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Joker's Thug #3
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Now im not surprised with your SR prediction, you overpredict everything.
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BJ
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BJs Prediction:
65m | 140m (65%+ 2nd wknd drop whether the film is good or bad)
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Joker's Thug #3
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bABA wrote: Zingaling wrote: It's still a tough film to predict without a clear idea of what the film will look like, but...
45/108.  if the ad campaign can be good. else, i see 70 million total now. Pssh 80m would be the tops good marketing or not. Im suppose to buy that every single person who bought the game and then some will see this movie? It'll have to detach itself quite a bit from the game to do that.
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Shack
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25/45
Yes, that bad of legs. Not really a success at all.
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