The 'Lost' Thread (Season 2)
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Mr. X wrote: Exactly! I was just thinking in my mind about dialogue from Hurley, Ana-Lucia, and Kate, and it's easy as hell. The dialogue is easy. The story is hard, though.
Let's read them dialogues.
Dr. Lecter, I still wanna know THE ANSWERS!
Still want to see where the story will go...and perhaps, overall show will get better.
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Mister Ecks
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Oh and just a thought that I got during reading this thread...
I am surprised that so many people here complain about Lost on weekly basis for, hm, the last ten episodes or so andhave little positive to say about it...yet they keep watching the show. I really gotta wonder why. Normally when I see that a show starts sucking, I stop watching it, like I did eventually with the X-Files.
I think people like Loyal still enjoy the show, but prefer to point out the flaws in the show. If he's watching the show and hates it now, then I can't explain that. I stopped enjoying "Desperate Housewives" this season, and I've only just caught up on the last five episodes this week. But, if I hadn't watched the episodes, I wouldn't have cared. And he's still watching it every week, so I suspect he enjoys it more than he lets on.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:25 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Mr. X wrote: Anyway, I just found out Michael Emerson was in "SAW". Makes sense.
You really noticed it just now? Hehe. He played Zep in the first film.
I have no idea why I missed it. Maybe it's because "Gale" is beaten up and bruised. Plus, the two characters don't talk the same. Plus, I was sure Zep was taller than "Gale" is. Plus, their hair was different.
I feel pretty stupid not knowing that it was Zep, but oh well. 
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:28 pm |
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andaroo1
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More info (this time from Spoilerfix).
2.18: Dave (Hurley centric), 4/5/2006
2.19: S.O.S. (Rose and Bernard centric), 4/12/2006
2.20: Two for the Road, 5/3/2006
2.21: ?, 5/10/2006
2.22: Three Minutes, 5/17/2006
2.23: (two hour finale), 5/24/2006
Apparently the title of 2.21 is "?", which, if you watched the epsiode last night, should mean something pretty significant. Based on the information provided, if I had to make a guess, I would say that Two for the Road sounds like a Kate episode, ? sounds like the Libby episode, and Three Minutes sounds like a Sawyer episode.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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andaroo wrote: More info (this time from Spoilerfix).
2.18: Dave (Hurley centric), 4/5/2006 2.19: S.O.S. (Rose and Bernard centric), 4/12/2006 2.20: Two for the Road, 5/3/2006 2.21: ?, 5/10/2006 2.22: Three Minutes, 5/17/2006 2.23: (two hour finale), 5/24/2006
Apparently the title of 2.21 is "?", which, if you watched the epsiode last night, should mean something pretty significant. Based on the information provided, if I had to make a guess, I would say that Two for the Road sounds like a Kate episode, ? sounds like the Libby episode, and Three Minutes sounds like a Sawyer episode.
If Three Minutes ends up being a first part of the finale (like last year's Exodus), it could be flashbacks for everyone. But, if I had to guess (if it was one person), I'd say Jack.
It's quite surprising how little we've seen of Walt and Michael. I understand Walt, but Michael has to show up soon. Could be an episode for him, too, minus Walt.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:46 pm |
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andaroo1
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Three Minutes is not the season finale and it looks like it's casting like a normal Lost flashback episode. Episode 2.23 is 2 hours... Episode 1.23 was one hour and 1.24 was 90 minutes... so you can assume that 2.23 is the big two parter.
Well Mr. X... in S.O.S. (small, vauge spoiler from spoilerfix)
[spoil]when they trek into the jungle to propose a "trade" with "The Others"[/spoil]
I am assuming that the characters may want to...
[spoil]trade Gale for Michael/Walt[/spoil]
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:47 pm |
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trixster
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andaroo wrote: More info (this time from Spoilerfix).
2.18: Dave (Hurley centric), 4/5/2006 2.19: S.O.S. (Rose and Bernard centric), 4/12/2006 2.20: Two for the Road, 5/3/2006 2.21: ?, 5/10/2006 2.22: Three Minutes, 5/17/2006 2.23: (two hour finale), 5/24/2006
Apparently the title of 2.21 is "?", which, if you watched the epsiode last night, should mean something pretty significant. Based on the information provided, if I had to make a guess, I would say that Two for the Road sounds like a Kate episode, ? sounds like the Libby episode, and Three Minutes sounds like a Sawyer episode.
If that's the Sawyer episode, then maybe the Locke/Sawyer connection will be revealed. It's been hinted at, but there's been nothing definitive yet.
If the episode is actually titled "?", then maybe they will find whatever's in the middle of the map. Apparently, Claire appears in the flashback of this one, but it's not her flashback. Another pre-flight connection. Which, by the way, happened last night too. Did you guys spot Nadia in Locke's flashback?
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:47 pm |
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Chris
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Mr. X wrote: andaroo wrote: More info (this time from Spoilerfix).
2.18: Dave (Hurley centric), 4/5/2006 2.19: S.O.S. (Rose and Bernard centric), 4/12/2006 2.20: Two for the Road, 5/3/2006 2.21: ?, 5/10/2006 2.22: Three Minutes, 5/17/2006 2.23: (two hour finale), 5/24/2006
Apparently the title of 2.21 is "?", which, if you watched the epsiode last night, should mean something pretty significant. Based on the information provided, if I had to make a guess, I would say that Two for the Road sounds like a Kate episode, ? sounds like the Libby episode, and Three Minutes sounds like a Sawyer episode. If Three Minutes ends up being a first part of the finale (like last year's Exodus), it could be flashbacks for everyone. But, if I had to guess (if it was one person), I'd say Jack. It's quite surprising how little we've seen of Walt and Michael. I understand Walt, but Michael has to show up soon. Could be an episode for him, too, minus Walt.
I've been wondering about them. When is the last time Michael was on?
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:49 pm |
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andaroo1
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trixster wrote: If the episode is actually titled "?", then maybe they will find whatever's in the middle of the map. Apparently, Claire appears in the flashback of this one, but it's not her flashback. Another pre-flight connection. Which, by the way, happened last night too. Did you guys spot Nadia in Locke's flashback?
Yeah, which is why I'm thinking it's Libby because it involves a girl with a "near-death experience"... it seems like Libby is involved in the kind of spiritualist things that Claire would be. But I dunno.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:50 pm |
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trixster
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Chris wrote: Mr. X wrote: andaroo wrote: More info (this time from Spoilerfix).
2.18: Dave (Hurley centric), 4/5/2006 2.19: S.O.S. (Rose and Bernard centric), 4/12/2006 2.20: Two for the Road, 5/3/2006 2.21: ?, 5/10/2006 2.22: Three Minutes, 5/17/2006 2.23: (two hour finale), 5/24/2006
Apparently the title of 2.21 is "?", which, if you watched the epsiode last night, should mean something pretty significant. Based on the information provided, if I had to make a guess, I would say that Two for the Road sounds like a Kate episode, ? sounds like the Libby episode, and Three Minutes sounds like a Sawyer episode. If Three Minutes ends up being a first part of the finale (like last year's Exodus), it could be flashbacks for everyone. But, if I had to guess (if it was one person), I'd say Jack. It's quite surprising how little we've seen of Walt and Michael. I understand Walt, but Michael has to show up soon. Could be an episode for him, too, minus Walt. I've been wondering about them. When is the last time Michael was on?
A few episodes ago (#2.11, actually), the one in which Jack, Locke and Sawyer went off looking for him, and ended up meeting the Others. It's quite likely he's been captured by the Others, like Walt.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:53 pm |
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andaroo1
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In "Lost Time", Michael ran off on day 51. Lockedown ends the night of day 59.
They've only been in the hatch like 14-15 days! Boone's only been dead for 19 days!
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:56 pm |
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trixster
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andaroo wrote: In "Lost Time", Michael ran off on day 51. Lockedown ends the night of day 59.
They've only been in the hatch like 14-15 days! Boone's only been dead for 19 days!
Shannon's only been dead for 11 days, and no one's mentioned her (other than Sayid) for almost that long.
It's kinda weird that they've only been there two months, and there's already been five deaths, a birth, a pregnancy, a discovery of a hatch, several confrontations with the Others, and a failed escape.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:07 pm |
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Please let there be no more jack episodes (this season at least). Enough already. As i say this i know that there is another one, especially after last night's talk about him having been to Thailand at some point, his tatoos, etc. I was sitting there and then they made those comments and i was like "NOOOOOOOO", cause i knew it was just lead up to yet another jack episode. AS IF ANYONE CARES!!!
I'd like another Kate episode though, as she has been pushed to the background this season and there are a couple things that i am curious about her (a while ago she said she was married once, and when Sun asked her if she had ever been pregnant there was a moment there). Two for the Road does sound a lot like a Kate episode, so good.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I thought last year, the writers said that each episode would be two days. If that was the case, we'd be at 82 days by now. I think if the show kept up the pace of Season 1, we might be there. Season 2 has slowed down quite a bit. I think they realized that if they kept up the quick pace (2 days per episode), the show would need to end after four or five seasons, at the most. Now, they might have an extra two or three seasons.
That is IF they can keep the interest up.
And, going over some Season 2 episode writers, I noticed that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (who I assume to be the showrunners, since JJ Abrams is doing squat for the show) have written quite a few episodes so far. 6 out of 17 (which includes Lindelof's season premiere, which wasn't co-written by Carlton Cuse). I think that's pretty cool. At least the main writers are keeping control on the show. So far, they've been responsible for the majority (if not all) of the major plot developments.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:14 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Dr Malcom wrote: Please let there be no more jack episodes (this season at least). Enough already. As i say this i know that there is another one, especially after last night's talk about him having been to Thailand at some point, his tatoos, etc. I was sitting there and then they made those comments and i was like "NOOOOOOOO", cause i knew it was just lead up to yet another jack episode. AS IF ANYONE CARES!!! I'd like another Kate episode though, as she has been pushed to the background this season and there are a couple things that i am curious about her (a while ago she said she was married once, and when Sun asked her if she had ever been pregnant there was a moment there). Two for the Road does sound a lot like a Kate episode, so good.
I find the Kate episodes to be hit and miss. I'm not as interested in her as I was last year.
But, for the record... please God, no more Charlie episodes this year. It seems we may be due for a blast to heroin past.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:15 pm |
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I am liking Charlie's current attitude, and no more flashbacks are needed this season (or for a while. we get it, he was a druggie and his brother did bad things). I have always liked Kate, but the thing that bothered me about her episodes (in S1 at least) was that they never told us what she did and it was annoying. Now i get why the little plane was so important, but i didn't then and i wasn't really intrigued as to why, i was just annoyed that we still had no idea what she did. I love Locke, but COME ON. How was he paralyzed already? It has been 4 eps about him and we still don't know (though at this point, i don't care what did it anymore.
That is a big problem i have with a lot of the flashbacks, they just "inform" us of stuff we already know. Again and again and again.
Dec 8, 2004: Ohhh, jack needs to fix things. I get it.
April 6, 2005: Okay, i get it, jack needs to fix things. Let's move on.
Sept 21, 2005: Enough with jack and his fixing of things!! Think of something new or kill jack.
Nov 9, 2005: WHAT?!?! THAT STUPID BITCH KILLED SHANNON!!! AND IT'S BECAUSE....SHE'S TOO YOUNG TO DO STUFF IN FLASHBACKS? WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT REASON IS THAT! KILL THAT ANA BITCH, SAYID, KILL HER!
Jan 18, 2006: OH MY GOD. Stop it. jack needs to fix things, we are all clear on that, no more. please, no more.
and i can just guess what i will think if we get another jack episode this season....
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andaroo1
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Mr. X wrote: I thought last year, the writers said that each episode would be two days. If that was the case, we'd be at 82 days by now. Claire was captured by Ethan on 1.11 and was returned on 1.15. There's a 14 day gap there between day 17 and day 31. Many of the shows take place over a short period of time. Episodes 2.01 through 2.08 take place over the period of 4 days total. Sometimes there's a big gap in days, but often the events of multiple episodes fall within the same timeframe. Quote: I think if the show kept up the pace of Season 1, we might be there. Season 2 has slowed down quite a bit. I think they realized that if they kept up the quick pace (2 days per episode), the show would need to end after four or five seasons, at the most. Now, they might have an extra two or three seasons. I think the only reason why the show has lost a bit of momentum is ABC's wacky schedule. Lost really should be shot and shown with minimal reruns because it's a show about momentum and it is never episodic. The Sun/Jin Episode was a weak way to start again after such a big break, but since mid-year we've had the tremondous Eko episode, we've had the Claire episode, The Hunting Party which had the meeting with the Others, and Lockedown... they've all had pretty big revelations. Quote: And, going over some Season 2 episode writers, I noticed that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse (who I assume to be the showrunners, since JJ Abrams is doing squat for the show)
In all fairness... JJ Abrams' involvment hasn't been as intense as everyone gives him credit for. Ever.
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:28 pm |
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O
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The fact that they haven't revealed why Locke was paralyzed makes me think that someone directly related on the island was the cause of it...(ie a major character in the past caused it, say in a crash, in which Locke never saw who caused him to be paralyzed).
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:57 pm |
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Ouch on Henry Gale, hopefully he doesn't get killed but probably won't since it would be so like Ethan's demise. Now I'm wondering who buried the actual Henry Gale. I heard they were introducing some girl on the show soon, maybe she's his daughter or something...
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:23 am |
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trixster
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MG Casey wrote: Ouch on Henry Gale, hopefully he doesn't get killed but probably won't since it would be so like Ethan's demise. Now I'm wondering who buried the actual Henry Gale. I heard they were introducing some girl on the show soon, maybe she's his daughter or something...
I thought the girl they were introducing was Alex, Danielle's daughter. And they already kind of did that, in Claire's episode a few weeks back. But I didn't know they were introducing another girl.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:39 am |
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Mr. X wrote: "I don't know, John. It sounds like you were hallucinating from the tension and the pain in your leg." "Are you saying I didn't see a map, Jack?" "No... I'm just saying that the situation could have triggered images that weren't really there, John. Let me ask you... what were you doing underneath the door? Why did Gale type in the numbers for you? Do you have an answer for that, John?"
That made me laugh.
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Mister Ecks
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andaroo wrote: I think the only reason why the show has lost a bit of momentum is ABC's wacky schedule. Lost really should be shot and shown with minimal reruns because it's a show about momentum and it is never episodic. The Sun/Jin Episode was a weak way to start again after such a big break, but since mid-year we've had the tremondous Eko episode, we've had the Claire episode, The Hunting Party which had the meeting with the Others, and Lockedown... they've all had pretty big revelations.
I meant the pace of the actual show, as in the pace of days on the island. Not the scheduling or anything.
But, since we're on the subject of scheduling, I've always been used to the actual airing of a TV show (lots of repeats in the middle of a season), so the show itself doesn't lose momentum for me. I know that's not the case for others, but oh well.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:41 am |
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trixster wrote: MG Casey wrote: Ouch on Henry Gale, hopefully he doesn't get killed but probably won't since it would be so like Ethan's demise. Now I'm wondering who buried the actual Henry Gale. I heard they were introducing some girl on the show soon, maybe she's his daughter or something... I thought the girl they were introducing was Alex, Danielle's daughter. And they already kind of did that, in Claire's episode a few weeks back. But I didn't know they were introducing another girl.
Oh, maybe it was. I just heard they were introducing some girl (like a month ago I heard this) who's been out on her own surviving.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:27 pm |
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Rose and Bernard are getting a flashback episode? Heck yes.
When is Libby's episode going to be, she's the only one who hasn't had one yet.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:35 pm |
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A. G.
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I wonder what the deal is with the aussie stewardess who was with the tail section and just disappeared half way through the walk back and nobody really misses her or cares. Do you all think it was a contractual thing, like she was fired or quit, or a purposeful pre-planned story twist that might come into play later?
If I recall right her name was Cindy but not 100% on that.
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