You know... I'm all for this debates between people. It's a lot of fun, and has sparked some fun conversation. But, I expect this from people like us. You and I (the "you" being whoever's silly enough to read my posts). But, when this Annie Proulx does it, it looks horrible. It's fine to show your dissatisfaction with your work losing out, but come on. Don't be bitter. Be happy your work was nominated! She's more than just a sore loser. "Trash" - excuse me - Crash". Ugh.

Oh well.

YAY God I love her for this.

And the bit about scientology

It's soooo good when people speak their minds like this, instead of being their usual hypocrit selves as is the case with half of Hollywood anyway.

YES! it truly DOES feel AMAZING to hurt the feelings of hundreds of people who have worked extraordinarily hard on a film simply because people like it.

Poll on cnn asking Is the "Brokeback" author a sore loser?

82% say yes and 18% say no.

The people have spoken.

the same people that elected bush. LOL

oh darn it. where is has peace and quiet gone to??? oh.. you're back. nevermind. it all makes sense.

CNN never had bush infront in one of their polls.CNN is mostly a news organization liked by liberals,everyone knows most conservitives hate it and love fox news.

Hah i love you. Your still a dick.

LOL!


Anyway, had I been someone famous and at the Oscars I wouldn't have applauded when TRASH won, and I wouldn't have spoken kindly about it in public. I'd have voiced my disgust. I don't care about the actors involved in it because it's not my fault they chose an amateurish film. Look at all of the people who trashed movies like Gigli. Nobody cared about the feelings of anyone involved in that. If you couldn't be honest then there wouldn't be critics because everyone would be forced to like everything for the sake of not wanting to hurt anyone else's feelings. Fuck that! If I were in attendance at the Oscars I'd have clapped when most won, even if they weren't my personal pick, except when that stupid and offensive pimp song won "Best Original Song" and especially when you know what won Best Picture undeservingly. They should have just given it to Star Wars. It not winning Best Picture but getting all of these other awards isn't enough because everyone considers the Oscars the main awards, and it's the win that matters most. It couldn't have deserved the award more. One thing that didn't help was a lot of the voters live in L.A., so they are automatically biased in that respect, and then also Crash has a big ensemble cast and most of the voters are other actors who likely know someone in the cast and wanted to vote for the movie their friends were in. Yes, Brokeback Mountain will be the movie that's remembered and considered more of a classic down the road, but there's nothing wrong with people voicing their disgust that the wrong film won, I don't care if they are somehow involved in the movie or not. Annie's critique of the Oscars is quite accurate and what many have already said online, so just because she wrote the short story the film was based on doesn't mean she can't be pissed about it not winning. Hell, I'm bitter about it and will never watch Trash ever again because of it. I didn't think it was a great film to begin with. It was so flawed, but I did find it entertaining and did own it, but a couple of months ago I got rid of my copy and I don't regret it, because I'd have wanted to bust it if I had still had it. Someone would have to get it out of my sight or I'd have been way too tempted to throw it across the room or something. It's impossible not to loathe the film more because it won, even if it's not its fault it was chosen. I'd never be able to see it again and not think about the Best Picture Oscar it stole.

At least one good thing will come of this, and that's that Brokeback Mountain will be less likely to be called overrated now because it didn't win Best Picture. Movies that do are always more likely to be liked less by people.

Bush was elected in a CNN poll?

I think "sour grapes" is the absolute best way to describe her rant.

Oh and those who defended her in this thread are exactly the people I expected to do that ever since the rant became public. Speak about predictable.

Sour grapes and feelings of inadequate tastes in quality films are the only reasons anybody is bitching, and we all know it!

It's ok, guys and gals, Brokeback Mountain, Munich, and Good Night, and Good Luck are still quality films, just not the BEST film of 2006. That distinction belongs to Crash, no matter how much bitching anybody wants to do.

The same could be said for those calling her bitch. She right had ot be bitchy, and everyone else has the right to have an opinion on it. Yes, its customary to be all smiles nad pretend your happy, but we all know everyone's not happy when they lose. She likes John McEnroe or probbaly more like Martinia Hingis who can be a downright bitch about her competitors, except Prolouz forgot that in order to be this bitchy you kinda need to win. When there is a competition there is going to be soue losers, and when take something subjective like film and attach a best to it, I suspect there are more sour loser.

I think Ang Lee made it quite clear that he was upset over the loss as well, but he did it in a "better" way and despite me being happy for Crash's win, I did feel sorry for his loss, considering how far he has gotten to that point. Now I feel not sorry at all for Proulx and her rant doesn't exactly make me rethink the position in her favor.

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Broken by the Oscars
As an Oscar nominee for Best Adapted Screenplay (I wrote A History of Violence), I read Annie Proulx's rant on Saturday with a great deal of surprise and bemusement ("Blood on the red carpet", March 11). Speaking for myself, it was a thrill to be nominated, and even though my film was better reviewed than hers, it never once occurred to me to lash out at my fellow nominees over the fact that I lost, let alone at the entire audience, and other nominees in other categories.
I guess it was somewhat easier on me, because I lost to a movie I respected - Diana Ossana and Larry McMurtry's script for Brokeback was brilliant, I thought, and it was an honour to be in their company, as well as Dan Futterman's, Jeffrey Caine's, and Eric Roth and Tony Kushner's. It never once occurred to me either that the Oscars were some kind of final arbiter on anything. They're famous for getting it wrong as often as they get it right. The Greatest Show On Earth, anyone? Around the World in 80 Days? Oliver? Chicago?
If Proulx had won, she might have realised that Three 6 Mafia were the highlight of the show. And did I mention that my movie got better reviews than hers?
Josh Olson
Los Angeles

lol

Except a history of violence did not get better reviews

Heh, true, but it came quite close being the overall second-best reviewed movie of the year with most #1 rankings from COTC critics.

He's got a point.

Maybe according to some of the academy, but I don't think I've seen one person who has said Crash was the best film of last year.

She was not an Oscar nominee, btw and many people don't seem to get that.

As for the Crash thing. Hmm..I don't know. I actually liked the film quite a bit despite a few problems with it. But best picture of the eyar jsut seems so...ugh. I would have been happy if something like The Constant Gardner, as an exmple had won. But Crash and best picture dont go together in my mind.

I expect to hear a similar crying from Robert De Niro and Scorsese next year after they lose to Snakes on a Plane.

I would have been mad if The Constant Gardener won, I'd much rather actually prefer BBM to it.

Ya, I wasn't too fond of the Constant Gardener. I thought it was a good movie and that's about it.

Although I had Crash at the top of my list for a long time, I agree with Rod in that Best Picture and Crash never really clicked in my mind, like repelling magnets: they just don't go together.

Having seen Crash for three times now, I firmly stand by that I think Crash was a deserving winner. It wasn't the one I was rooting for, but it IS one of my last year's favorites (in my Top 10) and it is emotionally the most powerful film I have seen last year.

Please don't tell me you were one of the people who gasped and put his hand to his mouth when the guy shot the girl.

Say it ain't so...

I never would put my hand to my mouth (maybe in 30 years), but the first time I saw it I did gasp actually.