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FILMO
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bradley witherberry wrote: FILMOre McGilmore wrote: Well it is a good movie but it has a bit an to much artist feel on it. Let me explain. It is a bit like "Oh we are the smart artist that have discovered dictatorship, torture etc.....and I feel that it is very very important to show that to people...we didnt even know that such things exist on we feel like it is our duty to share that with people....." In short even the movie is done well and I did enjoy it...it is missing something. I think people should read the Comic cause it is smarter. The topic is interesting but as said before here the execution could have been much better and smarter. So I was not dissaponted but I had the feeling that they could have done a really great movie but they didnt. And as I said, terror suppression etc always have been in human nature. So dont do like it is something new of our decade (after 2000) dear Hollywood...your smarter.
7.5/10 I understand your point of view, and I was with you right up until the last three words...
Of course its a joke  . Let me say it so. For a movie with a major L.A studio behind it it is smart (I know it was mostly done in Germany and most likely paid by german movie funds)......And I know that a high budged does force you to some deals...I just want that somebody is going with such a topic to the full and does risk the real thing. I hoped that the movie will be so done and shocking that people would talk about it after. But I doubt that with this version it will be the case. The whole V story is very smart and has very good points. Damn give it chance and show it well in the movie.
I was reading some stuff like "the most controversial movie of our decade"..Well hell no..it isnt...to bad.
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makeshift
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dolcevita wrote: Argh! I am actually going to go see this despite my disdain for its duo brother producers (had they been directing, I would have skipped it hands down), but Ashton's review, sigh, we tend to agree on alot.
Here's hoping he was in some extreme psychological duress before entering the theatre, and that it affected his ability to enjoy the movie...otherwise, I have a sense he's dead on. :-(
I dunno, you may like it. I'm definitely in the minority so far. It feels strange, because most people seem to be head over heels for it. It just didn't work for me. I'm really interested to hear what you think, though.
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jb007
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Cleric wrote: I loved every single piece of music that they chose. It was brilliant. I had to chuckle the first day that Portman gets up and you see V cooking with an apron on and listening to classical music. So many great scenes in this movie.
That was fabulous.
The movie also has quite a few good lines.
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FILMO
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dolcevita wrote: Argh! I am actually going to go see this despite my disdain for its duo brother producers (had they been directing, I would have skipped it hands down), but Ashton's review, sigh, we tend to agree on alot.
Here's hoping he was in some extreme psychological duress before entering the theatre, and that it affected his ability to enjoy the movie...otherwise, I have a sense he's dead on. :-(
Give it a chance. But dont expect a hyper intelligent and super smart done movie. I guess a lot of people do say this movie is so important cause they normally do not deal with the topics that are shown in the movie and so its like a first "Wow now that makes me thinking".
See this movie seems a bit hyped like nearly a serious documentary movie. Its like with the first Matrix. That one was called the super smart philosophical movie...and I think it was an action movie with smart plot but nothing more.
Vendetta doesnt go so far that you can call it a real controversial movie. Its well done but I am a bit dissapointed cause I hoped for much more.
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Bradley Witherberry
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dolcevita wrote: ...but Ashton's review, sigh...
I've been here a year and a half, and I have no idea who "Ashton" is - oh, to be in that inner circle...

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makeshift
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bradley witherberry wrote: dolcevita wrote: ...but Ashton's review, sigh... I've been here a year and a half, and I have no idea who "Ashton" is - oh, to be in that inner circle... 
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zingy
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da torri hasn't been unbanned yet and can't browse the forum, but here's his review:
Quote: This is a major, major disappointment. It could've (and should've!) ended after the first hour, because everything after that is only in it for the action (which becomes tiresome and boring after a good thirty minutes). Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving were both, unfortunately, underwhelming, and the movie's whole "idea" is weakened by the second-half. This movie, which is supposed to be billed as a "smart action with a message," is really just a regular action that wants its audience to believe it has a message. Yeah, there's something there, but it's so poorly handled. It also gave me a friggin' headache. B-/C+
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BennyBlanco
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Wow.
I can't recall a movie that so successfully rebounded from a very shaky beginning to become so damn exceptional. This definitely demands a repeat viewing, but for now I'll offer some thoughts.
Everything was going well until the first appearance of V in the alleyway. He begins to spout a bunch of gibberish (barely audible because of the poor dialogue mixing present throughout the movie) and almost comically takes out Evey's attackers. We are bombarded by deafening sound effects and musical accompaniment that seem to overwhelm what's going on and I began to have doubts about where this was all headed and what kind of tone the filmmakers were going for. I would say this extended to the sequence where V takes over the television station. The impact of what V was saying was annoyingly drowned out by the score. Apart from the above mentioned qualms, I also felt the production design was lacking any kind of a unique style and the cinematography was unengaging.
But then the last 3/4 of the movie blew me away  . Once V takes Evey back to his lair and begins to talk like a normal human being, I was offered a way into the character and from then on it was smooth sailing on all fronts. V as a character, his back-story and motivations were all completely fascinating. I loved the effect Evey had on him, but moreso, I was awestruck by what he did to get her to feel true freedom. The whole elaborate set-up he creates, feeding her notes from that girl and thus putting her through the same set of emotions that he had gone through, was stunning to say the least. Her resulting Shawshank Redemption moment was one of the best in the film. And is it actually Weaving playing (physically) the part of V for the whole of the movie, since they had to switch actors well into production? Either way, much like Norton did in Kingdom of Heaven, the actor playing V manages to emote well through small head movements and gestures and the sillyness of the mask becomes a non-issue. And I didn't think of Elrond or Agent Smith once during the movie. Weaving managed to find a certain tone for V that was unlike his other work, however the final mix made it difficult to hear his dialogue in quite a few scenes.
I really got involved in the storyline for V for Vendetta. Sure it includes a great many parallels/jabs/allegories for certain real-world governments, but politics is really not my thing and to try to speak about it would put me out of my comfort zone. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from others posters, who know more about these things than I do. The movie effected me on more of a straightforward level; what happens to V, Evey's parents, the remorseful doctor that V kills, the sinister virus plot that killed so many innocent people in the service of fear and to get a dictator into power, Valerie's tale, Gordon and his inability to live the kind of lifestyle he wants, and the Inspector's search for the truth, etc... And the way all this information is revealed is the greatest strength of the script. I remember a tagline from the posters, "an uncompromising vision..." and really that's exactly what it felt like. I was almost taken aback early on in the film where V responds truthfully to Evey that, yes, he did kill Prothero and, yes, he did intend to kill more people in service of his ultimate quest. I'm reminded of the scene in which the girl wearing the fawkes mask is shot on the street and the angry mob coming to her aid. Hypothetical musings of the Inspector or not, it was very shocking. Not to mention the story actually has the balls to end it all with the building going up like the 4th of July. Much credit to Moore I guess and I'll have to do some research to see exactly how much of his novel made it to the screen.
I went into this movie knowing it wasn't going to be filled with action, but I can't say I hoped there wasn't at least one sequence that unleashed the badass in V........and my hopes were fulfilled in spades. The encounter with Creedy and his goons was magnificent. I love how it plays out with V's threat, V getting blown away and then V completely owning everyone in a splatter-filled dance of death  . I don't really know how much of this was Wachowski or how much was McTeigue, but it was quality nonetheless.
So this is a weird one for me. A film that got off to such an awkward start, managing to turn it around and so thoroughly engage me in its story and characters. There are moments of such emotional power in this movie, with the rising crescendo of destruction at the end, probably the most memorable.
I'll give it an A- for now.
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dolcevita
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Zingaling wrote: da torri hasn't been unbanned yet and can't browse the forum, but here's his review: Quote: This is a major, major disappointment. It could've (and should've!) ended after the first hour, because everything after that is only in it for the action (which becomes tiresome and boring after a good thirty minutes). Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving were both, unfortunately, underwhelming, and the movie's whole "idea" is weakened by the second-half. This movie, which is supposed to be billed as a "smart action with a message," is really just a regular action that wants its audience to believe it has a message. Yeah, there's something there, but it's so poorly handled. It also gave me a friggin' headache. B-/C+
Shoot. Ross didn't like it either? Yet another person I trust. :-(
@bradley...this coming from the first person I exchanged pm's with ever?  How's the weather in Toronto?
Ah well, I went and saw Thank You for Smoking tonight! But I'll try to catch Vendetta this weekend.
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MikeQ.
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This is exciting. I have to see this film. Riggs loved it. Hitoriki loved it (wow, where have you been?? I miss you). Jb loved it. Benny loved it! This is sweet. Plus a lot of A's across the board.
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Jmart
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You know you're clearly with someone who didn't get the film when they walk out of the theater saying, "Well that was a shitty action film". It almost has no action in the film at all with the exception of the beginning and the end, especially at the end. It was almost like they were trying too hard to get the action ramped up a bit with all the fake CGI blood flying. Take that out, minus only a couple of things here and there, and it's basically a PG-13 film. The thing is though, it's not really supposed to be an action film. It's mostly about the politics of what a future nation could be like, along with past dictatorships with Hitler and Mussolini, and the relationship between Evey and V. And those going in thinking it's going to be another subtle attack on Bush, it's not really. There are a couple of references here and there to the war America started, and then a fictional second civil war, but that's it. I'm glad at the restraint shown.
The film though does have it's weaknesses. For instance the plot is a little complicated and congested at times, it has a slow beginning, it's a little over the top with some themes (Kind of has to be though I guess), and it's about 15 minutes too long. On the whole though, the film works, not to mention the last 5 minutes. The last few minutes of the film are absolutely well done and are very memorable. Besides the 4th of July, the 1812 Overture has never sounded so good.
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I only have one question though. (SPOILERS)
Why did V have that jail setup in his lair? Was he expecting someone like Evey to come along so he could do what he did to her, which was to free her of any fear of death? Was it there to remind him of his time in camp? Or was it just there to move the plot along?
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andaroo1
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A complicated movie deserves a complicated response. My initial reaction is that there are philosophies at work here which need to be sorted out... let me give you an example... V's purpose and his Vendetta is pretty obvious, but at the same time he's waging a war against a facist regime with one vision he is essentially replacing that structure with his own (sending out masks, etc.).
The goal of all of the actions should be to "free the mind" of people to have various ideas and ideals... the world is very polarized right now, and this film (or at least a large amount of the characters) also take polar opinions. I just thought that many of the characters, symbolized by Natalie Portman eventually giving into EVERYTHING that V had to say was just as dangerous. Replacing conservative thought with purely single minded liberal thought is JUST as dangerous.
Does that make sense? It's late for me.
As far as the movie goes, I think I was really put off by V's first appearance... it was wayyyyy too showy. I was also unimpressed with Portman, but I did really like Stephen Ray.
The film didn't really have an everyman. Ray's character was being redeemed but Portman's character was pre-disposed to falling for V's agenda.
When the story veered off into too much of the "superhero" route... like the hospital explosion (with the two fake guys on jump boards) it got a bit silly. The humor in such a serious movie needs to be better and a little more guarded. The production was a bit off too. Some of the stuff... like Hurt's Hitler-esque stage production had some of the most shoddy production design I've seen in a major motion picture in awhile. It's like the movie hovered between a great sci-fi idea and a more stylized fantasy view of the future... but there was no happy medium.
And I still have a bit of a problem with V's desire to blow up the parlament building after the people had ALREADY been "awoken" and all of the objectives have been achieved. If I judge the timeline correctly, it would be only 5 years of facism. Is that worth destroying hundreds of years of British culture and identity? I thought the point was to preserve those things. The people should RECLAIM those monuments for what they stand for, not tear down everything in an attempt to destroy history. Surely if we can save a God Saves the Queen poster, we can save these brilliant architectural masterpieces.
Just my two cents.
It's also cool to see that, despite the United States being a wasteland, Dell, a Texas company, survived somehow and is able to produce monitors for the London police.
I also can't get over the fact that V for Vendetta is kind-of a retelling of The Phantom of the Opera.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Everybody seems to take Vendetta as an anti-Bush or anti-American work. However, I see it as more neutral than biased. Here is why:
1. In a nation as portrayed in Vendetta, such a film would not be allowed. That it could be released at liberty in America reflects well on this country's political integrity in the face of adversity.
2. V is neither a terrorist nor a conventional revolutionary. He is an anarchist. What he did to England, replace autocracy with anarchy, is what we did in Iraq. This analogy is far stronger than oblique references to "America's War," which in the film really just means civil war. If anything, this aspect is supportive of American-induced anarchy in the Middle East.
3. The campaign billboard featuring "Democracy" debases one-party states such as China, not the US Republican party. If anything, Bush's 48% popular vote carries more political prerogative than the sub-20% pluralities of French leadership.
Ridiculing Bush is like hunting cows with a machine gun, the man deserves some defense; I do not intend for these points to carry any agenda.
Quote: It's also cool to see that, despite the United States being a wasteland, Dell, a Texas company, survived somehow and is able to produce monitors for the London police. As a former Dell employee, I can attest to the company's hypothetical survival; its assembly plants in Ireland can provide for European demand as long as supply chains from China stay intact.  Quote: wow, where have you been?? I miss you
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zingy
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Excellent film. Great performances from Hugo Weaving, Natalie Portman and Stephen Rea. Even though it really shouldn't be considered an action film, as it barely has much action, I still loved it.
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nghtvsn
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Below is my own thoughts of the film in addition I'm so glad a majority of those who've seen the film have graded this one an A. It definitely tells me that us KJ'ers have good film taste.
V FOR VENDETTA
Where: Harkins@okokc
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Trailers:
Superman Returns - get a new trailer already
MI3 - new version but I prefer the other where tom and hoffman appear to be face to face
Poseidon Adventure - movie looks so One note
*forgot others
Audience "reaction": hhm, there were a few laughs here and there. Nothing big. I think it kept most of the audience's attention, but I definitely had a feeling that some were getting "tired." Maybe they thought it was too long or not what they were expecting. After the end, the audience mood appeared to be subdued and laid back.
Film: Oh, I just love the film. I think it's an important film in some respects because of the subject matter and it's interpretation of government and it's portrayal of what can and has happened when the populous turns over total control to the government. I think the film is an instant film school discussion piece. There are many memorable lines used in the film my most favorite was that "Ideas are Invincible." I don't know if that line was taken from a novel or what not but it definitely is a important one. As for the film characteristics like sound, cinematog, direction, story....I thought it was very well executed from the explosions, the usage of music both classical and modern, the story and plot were compelling and interesting and kept my attention throughout and the acting was excellent and worked well for me. The only part that I may have a criticism of was during the cell sequence and the story that was told during it. At first I sat there thinking that that was such a easy way to turn off or alienate the audience but I think if one can get past the "issue" then the story just fits right in with everything.
My Grade A+
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BJ
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andaroo wrote: A complicated movie deserves a complicated response. My initial reaction is that there are philosophies at work here which need to be sorted out... let me give you an example... V's purpose and his Vendetta is pretty obvious, but at the same time he's waging a war against a facist regime with one vision he is essentially replacing that structure with his own (sending out masks, etc.).
The goal of all of the actions should be to "free the mind" of people to have various ideas and ideals... the world is very polarized right now, and this film (or at least a large amount of the characters) also take polar opinions. I just thought that many of the characters, symbolized by Natalie Portman eventually giving into EVERYTHING that V had to say was just as dangerous. Replacing conservative thought with purely single minded liberal thought is JUST as dangerous.
Does that make sense? It's late for me.
As far as the movie goes, I think I was really put off by V's first appearance... it was wayyyyy too showy. I was also unimpressed with Portman, but I did really like Stephen Ray.
The film didn't really have an everyman. Ray's character was being redeemed but Portman's character was pre-disposed to falling for V's agenda.
When the story veered off into too much of the "superhero" route... like the hospital explosion (with the two fake guys on jump boards) it got a bit silly. The humor in such a serious movie needs to be better and a little more guarded. The production was a bit off too. Some of the stuff... like Hurt's Hitler-esque stage production had some of the most shoddy production design I've seen in a major motion picture in awhile. It's like the movie hovered between a great sci-fi idea and a more stylized fantasy view of the future... but there was no happy medium.
And I still have a bit of a problem with V's desire to blow up the parlament building after the people had ALREADY been "awoken" and all of the objectives have been achieved. If I judge the timeline correctly, it would be only 5 years of facism. Is that worth destroying hundreds of years of British culture and identity? I thought the point was to preserve those things. The people should RECLAIM those monuments for what they stand for, not tear down everything in an attempt to destroy history. Surely if we can save a God Saves the Queen poster, we can save these brilliant architectural masterpieces.
Just my two cents.
It's also cool to see that, despite the United States being a wasteland, Dell, a Texas company, survived somehow and is able to produce monitors for the London police.
I also can't get over the fact that V for Vendetta is kind-of a retelling of The Phantom of the Opera.
what would be your grade?
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Bradley Witherberry
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BennyBlanco wrote: ...V manages to emote well through small head movements and gestures and the sillyness of the mask becomes a non-issue. And I didn't think of Elrond or Agent Smith once during the movie. Weaving managed to find a certain tone for V that was unlike his other work...
Though there definitely was a little Mitzi Del Bra in there...
(Also, on a separate note: I'm glad to see that Bush supporters are able to distance the movie from themselves - bodes well for the BO!)
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andaroo1
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BJ wrote: what would be your grade? I don't grade. I haven't for about a year. I think it's bloody pointless. You either like something or you don't. My bottom line is... I think like the Matrix sequels, V for Vendetta has its heart in the right place, but the W. Brothers haven't quite figured out how to sort out all of their misc. and sometimes conflicting philosophies. But it's an interesting one to talk to regardless. As far as the movie goes... the acting, production, etc. I was disappointed and I think that James McTeigue is perhaps not *quite* ready for the big time. But mostly I think just the mood is off and it's a bit sillier in places that I had imagined from knowing a bit about the material and seeing the trailers, and it didn't quite deliver that. So see it, I guess. It's definately not a waste of 2 hours, but it's far from being a masterpiece. But other than Thank You For Smoking, I think it may be the only other film out there at the moment that is *trying* to be more meaningful than your average film staring huskies in Alaska or Tyler Perry. Someone on CHUD mentioned that Alan Moore, the author, has disowned this movie. I thought that was interesting. Hitokiri Battousai wrote: Everybody seems to take Vendetta as an anti-Bush or anti-American work. However, I see it as more neutral than biased. I know this was not addressed directly to me, but I would pretty much agree with this. It is important for everyone to make the distinction that V for Vendetta uses the issues of today as a jumping off point and makes a lot of assumptions. In fact, I think they strected the sci-fi element a little too thin in places. I don't think the average British citizen would be oblivious to Hurt's neu-Hitler in 2020, just as Americans are not oblivious to Bush's stuff today. America today is in a conflicted and inrospective state at the moment, and I think everybody would agree that that is a good thing. Quote: 2. V is neither a terrorist nor a conventional revolutionary. He is an anarchist. He is an anarchist, but I think that V himself would definately consider himself a terrorist. He has himself assumed the role of Guy Fawkes knowning as much. Quote: What he did to England, replace autocracy with anarchy, is what we did in Iraq. Hmmm... not really. The anarchy in Iraq is a function of the insurgency at the moment. What the US did in Iraq was a temporary occupation where the US Governement set up the means for Iraq to elect/appoint its own infrastructure. I think regardless of your position on the war, this is different than the goal of V. V's time was "over" as of the end of the night. V was much more traditionally aligned to anarchism and terrorism, not nation building. We didn't hear much about what V thought England *should* do after his plan worked out. It's because the terrorist aspect in him was completely focused on his vendetta due to the tests he was subjected to. Quote: This analogy is far stronger than oblique references to "America's War," which in the film really just means civil war. If anything, this aspect is supportive of American-induced anarchy in the Middle East. By the end of the film, I was actually kind of... not proud, but felt kind of good that America was in a "civil war". Civil Wars are dangerous, but it means that America had not gone comatose like England and given over the reigns to a dictator. Quote: Ridiculing Bush is like hunting cows with a machine gun, the man deserves some defense; I do not intend for these points to carry any agenda. I also don't think, as many others do, that because this nation is having serious discourse about civil liberties and civil rights that it means we're headed into some dystopian nightmare. Which is where the distinction needs to be made (as you said before) that V is fiction, not an accurate reflection of what is going on now. Quote: As a former Dell employee, I can attest to the company's hypothetical survival; its assembly plants in Ireland can provide for European demand as long as supply chains from China stay intact. 
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makeshift
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Wow. I must say, I'm really surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reacton this film has received. I feel like I must have saw a completely different movie.
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torrino
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makeshift wrote: Wow. I must say, I'm really surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reacton this film has received. I feel like I must have saw a completely different movie.
Nope, andaroo and I saw the same thing you did.
Now, watch. loyal, dolce, and Ripper will ahve the same reaction, and then V for Vendetta will win BP a la Crash. Oh god.
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Captain Muha
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one of the greatest films i have ever seen in my life and yes, ive seen a lot of them...
and no, im not joking.
it spoke to me as a future politician and a former supporter of the bush administration.
its message was one of hope and peace, not terrorism and hate.
absolutely brilliant.
10/10
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Johnny Dollar
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I'd give it a B or so.
I liked it, I really did. It raises interesting issues (I loved the sequence when the government, wanting to get the people back in their corner, had FOX Ne...er, the fictional news channel, pound the people with endless frightening news of violence, plagues, etc. Fear, baby!), and you have to respect the film's cajones not just in the political department, but in allowing the main character to exist entirely behind an immobile mask (high degree of difficulty, but it worked).
But there's something....flat about it. The pacing's off. There's no distinct feel to McTeigue's direction or visual style. Some of the images were way too on the nose (John Hurt's Hitler-esque rally, complete with goosestepping, the cuts to fire-engulfed V screaming during Evey's cleansing march into the rain, the final 'V' in the sky, etc...a little subtlety never hurt anyone), not to mention Natalie Portman's final dialogue. The slow-mo knife-battle-thing near the end was kinda goofy.
Basically, it's flawed, but thought-provoking and worth a look.
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andaroo1
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Captain Muha wrote: its message was one of hope and peace, not terrorism and hate.
How is it about peace? The concept of attaining freedom rarely has anything to do with peace. If anything, the movie makes the case for terrorism being justified as a consequence of the conservative overlords.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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andaroo wrote: Captain Muha wrote: its message was one of hope and peace, not terrorism and hate. How is it about peace? The concept of attaining freedom rarely has anything to do with peace. If anything, the movie makes the case for terrorism being justified as a consequence of the conservative overlords.
There is a gigantic difference between terrorism as an act of destruction, and revolution as an act of liberation. There is of course a gray area in between, but the contrast between V and contemporary terrorists is marked.
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Maverikk
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I hope it's worth all the praise, because I'm supposed to be getting rest, but I guess it's not too much activity if I sit in a theater as opposed to sitting at home, so I'm seeing this in about an hour.
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