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But exposure doesn't equal box-office. I definitely never saw any positive reactions to the SR teaser the four times I went to see Harry Potter.

So exposure doesn't mean it's going to rule the box-office.

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tina_als_girl wrote:
But exposure doesn't equal box-office. I definitely never saw any positive reactions to the SR teaser the four times I went to see Harry Potter.

So exposure doesn't mean it's going to rule the box-office.

Joy


Agreed. People enjoyed "fun" trailers to the family films (I think Ice Age 2 and Over The Hedge were shown and were well received). People were bored by the Superman teaser. It was very 60 minutes-esk in tone... :tongue:


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tina_als_girl wrote:
But exposure doesn't equal box-office. I definitely never saw any positive reactions to the SR teaser the four times I went to see Harry Potter.

So exposure doesn't mean it's going to rule the box-office.

Joy


ya i guess you kinda missed the part where i said

"its w.b.s job to turn awareness into hype come june, and this is easily the best way to do that. "


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Sad Clown wrote:
The biggest grip is not even one screenshot of FX or candyshot is shown to people extremely late at this point. Last year prop shots from SWs,Batman Begins, and WOTW were shown as early as february/January. Nothing so far has really been shown from Superman Returns, alot of the stuff is just pretty much candid shots. If you also look at the Superman boards, most of the topics are about Christopher Reeves and if Brandon Routh fills his shoes are not. Its one of these reasons why Superman's buzz is so inflated on the internet


The sad, yet truth of the whole thing is that Routh won't even be able to lace up the late Christopher Reeve's Boots when it comes to playing the Man of Steel.. Routh doesn't even remotely look like SUPERMAN but more like SUPERBOY and from the looks of things, it looks like WB is doing their damndest to make this look like SMALLVILLE in some shots.. In short: This movie will be torn to shreds, except for Ebert of course, who will give this movie to Big Thumbs Up for no apparent reason..


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when you said"routh doesnt even REMOTELY look like superman" you killed your argument because even the fanboys are now convinced he looks like superman.


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tina_als_girl wrote:
But exposure doesn't equal box-office. I definitely never saw any positive reactions to the SR teaser the four times I went to see Harry Potter.

So exposure doesn't mean it's going to rule the box-office.

Joy


I heard whispering each time I saw Harry Potter. But a crowd's verbal response isn't exactly solid proof either way. I've seen the Pirates of the Caribbean 2 trailer twice, and heard not a single peep either time. Yet I somehow doubt that's not going to set the box office on fire.


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Has their even been one piece of dialouge from Routh?

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Wow is that really fake? WB might want to think about hiring whoever made that.


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not too mention that shes EASILY the most popular singer among girls ages 8-14 which is one of the audiences a superman movie wouldnt reach.

what happened is, from march-september 2005, superman took up every single sound stage at fox studios in sidney. then a syndney music magazine interviews clarkson, cause she was shooting a music video there in july.

marketing wise, i think its actualyl w.b.s goal to copy what fox did for star wars. i mean, theyve got the same trailer and poster campaign. And they also have some o fhte same tie ins, ; i.e. in june and july jeff gordon will be driving a superman returns car at his nascar races. the only other movies hes done that for is episodes 1 2 3. there was a also lays, m&ms with the s logo as their "S" i saw in a thread, so i think m&m and lays are promotional partners. panatronics electronics, nikon, and budweiser have all also been 100% confirmed for product placements.


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Well, I know that Disney and M&Ms have a campaign starting on May 1 for PotC2; they'll be debuting their limited edition white chocolate M&M "pearls". I don't know who's car it is, but there'll be a PotC M&M Nascar this year, too. So, I dunno if M&Ms would be doing an SR campaign or not....

And I really don't understand how ya'll think that having a song done by Kelly Clarkson means anything at all. She's NOT as popular as you make her out to be. Definitely not enough to actually make a dent either way on the movie's box-office. If having a song by Kelly Clarkson meant anything in terms of movie success, then Love Actually would have done better than it did domestically.

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excel wrote:
when you said"routh doesnt even REMOTELY look like superman" you killed your argument because even the fanboys are now convinced he looks like superman.


That's cause they have no taste and don't know any better and weren't around when Christopher Reeve did the job and looked more convincing, more imposing, not like a Chip N Dale or Boytoy like Routh looks like..


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no tina, i think its just that you and a few others around here dont want thids movie to do good, hence why you over look her popularity.

since you been gone was one of the biggest songs of last year. but because of you, behind these hazel, have also been big hits in the past 4 months.


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60/185

I'm banking on a Batman Begins-ish run with weaker legs due to POTC 2.

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its official-superman returns is rated pg13 for intense action violence.


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excel wrote:
its official-superman returns is rated pg13 for intense action violence.


what action violence is there? ..talk about a mystery wrapped in a twinkie

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Ghostooze wrote:
excel wrote:
its official-superman returns is rated pg13 for intense action violence.


what action violence is there? ..talk about a mystery wrapped in a twinkie


[spoil]Supposedly he dies in a traumatic fashion thats deemed too heartbreaking but he then gets revived again[/spoil]


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'Superman' torch is passed

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200603 ... chispassed

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Interesting...
So when they say they will digitally recreate Marlon Brando in the movie with dialogue, does it mean they will just have a still picture of Marlon Brando and add someones lips over it for movement and voice over. It worked well on the Conan Obrian skits


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I know comic book fans will look its cool, but as an average moviegoer, it creeps me out that they're digitally remastering old stock footage of Brando and putting it into this movie. I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard...


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Does this movie really have that big of a budget? Until a trailer proves me wrong, I actually have a feeling that it'll be almost completely devoid of much any action. Is the villian anything but Kevin Spacey walking around with a piece of Kryptonite? I don't want to sound like BKB, but if they've already got this sucker rated and still are struggling to show anything at all to make the film look enticing, then it only makes sense that alarm bells would be going off.


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Does this movie really have that big of a budget? Until a trailer proves me wrong, I actually have a feeling that it'll be almost completely devoid of much any action. Is the villian anything but Kevin Spacey walking around with a piece of Kryptonite? I don't want to sound like BKB, but if they've already got this sucker rated and still are struggling to show anything at all to make the film look enticing, then it only makes sense that alarm bells would be going off.


The main action will be Superman basically saving the earth from all these diasters like earthquakes, tornados, etc. Luthor basically creates a weather-controlling device and basically just recks havoc on the earth. Picture The Day After Tommorow, but Superman there saving the day. THe action is going to be there alright. Tons of it.

The only thing alarming about WB marketing so far isn't that the film is in trouble, but just that WB may screw up the marketing with this. THat's all I fear. The film itself I beleive will easily deliver. Its just the marketing.


Hmm, sounds a lot like that awful Avengers film, but with a budget this supposedly huge, I guess it does have some potential. Still, I'd rather see Superman fight like a giant fucking robot... or like a pack of dinosaurs... or something cool. Weather only has so much oomph, unless they get creative and have like cloud monsters or something. Which they won't, although it'd rule.


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Sounds something like The Hulk where there really wasnt a powerful villian. Lex Luthor isnt exactly someone thats superhuman, he mainly has the resources. The problem with the movie I see is they try so hard to recreate the original Superman from Superman looking like Reeves, having the same villian, the teaser recycling the old music and a digitalized version of Brando

Just remember the Hulk mainly suffered from the action being about dodging and dismantling missles and buildings as opposed to going on a one on one fight until the end


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Sad Clown wrote:
Sounds something like The Hulk where there really wasnt a powerful villian. Lex Luthor isnt exactly someone thats superhuman, he mainly has the resources. The problem with the movie I see is they try so hard to recreate the original Superman from Superman looking like Reeves, having the same villian, the teaser recycling the old music and a digitalized version of Brando

Just remember the Hulk mainly suffered from the action being about dodging and dismantling missles and buildings as opposed to going on a one on one fight until the end


I'm actually quite a big fan of Hulk, and as flawed as it was, I'd say that wasn't really the problem. It's actually kinda refreshing. But Kevin Spacey just doesn't come off as menacing at all. I agree with you, they're trying waaay too hard to ape the original. Still, at least knowing they have some potentially neat f/x planned with the disaster stuff gives me some hope I guess...


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MovieDude wrote:

I'm actually quite a big fan of Hulk, and as flawed as it was, I'd say that wasn't really the problem. It's actually kinda refreshing. But Kevin Spacey just doesn't come off as menacing at all. I agree with you, they're trying waaay too hard to ape the original. Still, at least knowing they have some potentially neat f/x planned with the disaster stuff gives me some hope I guess...


I liked the Hulk too but I still see it suffering from the same problem judging by the pictures and outline. From what I can tell is they will take a good portion of time trying to have Superman sort out his own personal problems in Krytone, go back to earth where he finds out Lois has moved on with a new relation with someone else and has a kid, we see flashbacks of Superman growing up in Smallville. Those alone take up more than an hour of the movie. I could see it trying to combine Unbreakable with the Hulk. Kids under 12 may get bored out of their mind like the Hulk


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Magnus101 wrote:
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But Kevin Spacey just doesn't come off as menacing at all. I agree with you, they're trying waaay too hard to ape the original.


Have you seen Se7en?

While too would rather see SR fighting Metallo or Braniac or some villian that can fight with him hand-to-hand, I still wouldn't mind at all seeing Superman saving a crashing airplane or saving everyone from some earthquakes.

And honestly Luthor is probably the best way to re-start it up because hes the most known villian, and I think having a some-what unknown villian for this might not be good.


Yes, and I've also seen The Usual Suspects. But up against fucking Superman, he looks like he'll get whooped the moment he drops the Kryptonite. I'm not opposed to Lex Luthor, but some physical foe definitely would've been appreciated.


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