Poll: Americans want 'Crash' for Best Picture
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Cotton
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 Poll: Americans want 'Crash' for Best Picture
Quote: Poll: Americans Want 'Crash' for Best Picture Harris Poll finds Americans support 'Crash,' 'Walk the Line' stars March 2 2006 Matt Dillon and Thandie Newton in 'Crash'All winter long, critics, guilds and other awards-givers have endorsed "Brokeback Mountain" as the year's best picture. Given the same choices as the Academy, though, the American people may go another way.
According to a semi-scientific poll of 1016 demographically diverse Americans conducted via phone by the Harris Poll people, 20 percent of all people polled said that "Crash" should win best picture at Sunday (March 5) night's Oscars. "Brokeback Mountain" finished a distant second with 13 percent of the vote, followed by "Good Night, and Good Luck" with 10 percent apiece. "Capote" was the longshot with a paltry four percent, though the four straggling nominees finished behind both "Crash" and the surprisingly popular "None of these" option (18 percent).
"Crash" drew the support of people of all types including women (21 percent), men (18 percent), African-Americans (42 percent), Hispanics (28 percent), Democrats (28 percent) and Republicans (18 percent). It should be noted that the actual winner with men and Republicans was "None of these." Republican men are just tough to please.
"Brokeback Mountain" can take solace in two important things: First, among people aged 61 and over, "Brokeback" beat "Crash" 13 percent to three percent ("Good Night" actually won in that age range with 15 percent). Second, and perhaps most importantly, all these people consulted by the Harris Poll? They don't get a real vote.
Among Harris respondents, Joaquin Phoenix of "Walk the Line" was the easy best actor choice with 32 percent, beating "Brokeback" star Heath Ledger, who has 15 percent. Although he's considered a prohibitive favorite to win the Oscar, Philip Seymour Hoffman of "Capote" got only eight percent. Oh and Terrence Howard of "Hustle & Flow" may have only received two percent of the support from white folks, but he got 40 percent of the African-American vote.
On the best actress side, 43 percent of the people Harris talked to supported Reese Witherspoon of "Walk the Line." Nobody else was really close in any demographic or age range.
Not surprised that so many people picked "None of These" given the absence of Walk the Line, King Kong and other crowd pleasers.
Anyway, discuss...
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:42 pm |
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Erendis
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 Re: Poll: Americans want 'Crash' for Best Picture
 Never trust a poll until you find out who paid for it.
It's not surprising that Americans "chose" Crash. They've been reading the papers, seeing how Crash has been talked up. So when somebody calls them, of course they say Crash. Did they even see Crash?
Compare the dinky Harris poll to the one at MSNBC.com http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10928492/.
It's been ongoing for weeks and has accumulated 95000 votes. That poll shows Brokeback in the lead with 38%.
Anyway, Oscarwatch says that a "substantial number" of Oscar ballots have already been submitted, (and I wonder how many of the rest are in the mail). All this Crash talk is too late, and directed to the wrong people.
(and I daresay that Brokeback fans are passionate folk. It will take more than a few columns in the industry rags to turn them away from beloved BBM.)
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:15 pm |
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android
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now seriously... this "Crash should win" wave is getting more and more ridiculous and needs to end right now... and I (still) like the damn movie... 
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:24 pm |
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Christian
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Brokeback Mountain has the advantage of being the first movie named in the ballot for every category it is nominated for.  (Well cinematography has "Batman Begins" first lol)
HAHA. j/k
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:58 pm |
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Chippy
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I find it funny that 48% of african americans want Crash to win...
I bet 48% of homosexual people want Brokeback Mountain to win...
No offence to anyone
Crash should burn in hell
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:37 pm |
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fuck fuck fuck fuck
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:58 pm |
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haerpinot
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Good thing this isn't the People's Choice awards.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:06 pm |
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Cotton
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 Re: Poll: Americans want 'Crash' for Best Picture
Erendis wrote: :roll: Never trust a poll until you find out who paid for it. It's not surprising that Americans "chose" Crash. They've been reading the papers, seeing how Crash has been talked up. So when somebody calls them, of course they say Crash. Did they even see Crash? Compare the dinky Harris poll to the one at MSNBC.com http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10928492/. It's been ongoing for weeks and has accumulated 95000 votes. That poll shows Brokeback in the lead with 38%. Anyway, Oscarwatch says that a "substantial number" of Oscar ballots have already been submitted, (and I wonder how many of the rest are in the mail). All this Crash talk is too late, and directed to the wrong people. (and I daresay that Brokeback fans are passionate folk. It will take more than a few columns in the industry rags to turn them away from beloved BBM.)
Yeah, but the MSNBC pole is hardly scientific  And normally I would agree with you about finding out who paid for this, but like you said, it's too little too late for it to matter. Plus, this just seems like a silly thing only meant to divide people; no one's really going to come out with a decisive boost.
I kinda regret posting it in the first place.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:49 pm |
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zennier
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Sunday night is gonna be tense. And not in the good, way. Unless voters screw over Crash and pick BBM. Please.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Maverikk
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Honestly, if Crash pulls off the upset and wins, I'm going to be snickering pretty hard about it. It's my favorite film of all of the nominees for Best Picture (and would have been if Walk the Line was nominated, too). I really can't lose, though, because I loved Brokeback Mountain, so I'm cool with it if it wins.
1. Crash A-
2. Brokeback Mountain A-
3. Good Night, and Good Luck A-
4. Munich B+
5. Capote C
I'm pulling for Crash, but unless Capote wins, I'm not going to be throwing myself out the window.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:33 pm |
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Libs
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Maverikk wrote: Honestly, if Crash pulls off the upset and wins, I'm going to be snickering pretty hard about it. It's my favorite film of all of the nominees for Best Picture (and would have been if Walk the Line was nominated, too). I really can't lose, though, because I loved Brokeback Mountain, so I'm cool with it if it wins.
1. Crash A- 2. Brokeback Mountain A- 3. Good Night, and Good Luck A- 4. Munich B+ 5. Capote C
I'm pulling for Crash, but unless Capote wins, I'm not going to be throwing myself out the window.
Agreed.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:37 pm |
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Snrub
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Had the people polled actually seen all the films?
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:38 pm |
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Cotton
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Snrub wrote: Had the people polled actually seen all the films?
It doesn't say, but probably not. The same can be said about the Academy.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:43 pm |
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Libs wrote: Maverikk wrote: Honestly, if Crash pulls off the upset and wins, I'm going to be snickering pretty hard about it. It's my favorite film of all of the nominees for Best Picture (and would have been if Walk the Line was nominated, too). I really can't lose, though, because I loved Brokeback Mountain, so I'm cool with it if it wins.
1. Crash A- 2. Brokeback Mountain A- 3. Good Night, and Good Luck A- 4. Munich B+ 5. Capote C
I'm pulling for Crash, but unless Capote wins, I'm not going to be throwing myself out the window. Agreed.
Be sure to vote for Crash in the Ultimate Oscar Contest you two.

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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:45 pm |
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Ripper
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haerpinot wrote: Good thing this isn't the People's Choice awards.
Seriosuly, let that crap awards show give Crash all the statues it wants.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:20 pm |
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andaroo1
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George Bush won the presidency.
So it's completely within the realm of possibility for the majority of Americans to support utter tripe.
(not utter, but I'm being dramatic!)
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:48 pm |
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Chris
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andaroo wrote: George Bush won the presidency.
So it's completely within the realm of possibility for the majority of Americans to support utter tripe.
(not utter, but I'm being dramatic!)
If you're talking about Crash, then you're correct.
But if you're talking about Bush, then yes, he is categorized under utter tripe.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:56 pm |
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zennier
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roo, you've spoiled me. I used to think Crash was OK, but you've made me grow to loathe it sooo much. Damn you, damn my small, pathetic little mind.
Oh, and...
1. Brokeback Mountain - A
2. Munich - A
3. Good Night & Good Luck - A-
4. Capote - B+
5. Crash - B- to D+. I can't decide. Too many emotionz12!1
Needless to say, I hope Crash doesn't win. Badly. It REALLY isn't worthy.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:13 pm |
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The Steeeve
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 Re: Poll: Americans want 'Crash' for Best Picture
Quote: According to a semi-scientific poll of 1016 demographically diverse Americans conducted via phone by the Harris Poll people, 20 percent of all people polled said that "Crash" should win best picture at Sunday (March 5) night's Oscars. "Brokeback Mountain" finished a distant second with 13 percent of the vote, followed by "Good Night, and Good Luck" with 10 percent apiece. "Capote" was the longshot with a paltry four percent, though the four straggling nominees finished behind both "Crash" and the surprisingly popular "None of these" option (18 percent).
They talk about Good Night and Good Luck like it's 2 movies. I assume they meant to put Munich here. But here's what I really don't understand:
Crash - 20%
BBM - 13%
GNGL - 10%
Munich - 10%
Capote - 4%
None - 18%
That adds up to 75%. Or am I reading it wrong? What happened to the other 25%?
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:42 pm |
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dolcevita
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lennier wrote: roo, you've spoiled me. I used to think Crash was OK, but you've made me grow to loathe it sooo much. Damn you, damn my small, pathetic little mind.
Oh, and...
1. Brokeback Mountain - A 2. Munich - A 3. Good Night & Good Luck - A- 4. Capote - B+ 5. Crash - B- to D+. I can't decide. Too many emotionz12!1
Needless to say, I hope Crash doesn't win. Badly. It REALLY isn't worthy.
That's a hot lineup.
Mine's
Munich - A
Good Night and Good Luck - A-
Brokeback Mountain - A-
Capote - A-
Crash - D
This is gonna be good. Mostly because of the hate aspect, actually. Usually I'm not this *scared* 72 hours before the show.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:17 am |
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Box
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Americans voted for Bush.
Twice.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:21 am |
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andaroo1
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lennier wrote: roo, you've spoiled me. I used to think Crash was OK, but you've made me grow to loathe it sooo much. Damn you, damn my small, pathetic little mind.
I can only show you the door... you have to take the red pill... or something.
I don't think Crash is "utter" tripe because it is well crafted for all of its supposed sins. I can't fault it that.
I can't think of what is the worst Best Picture winner if it won... Crash, Braveheart or Marty.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:32 am |
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dar
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My order of preference:
1. Brokeback
2. Munich
3. Capote
4. Crash
5. Good night and good luck
... But I liked them all so whatever happens, I won´t be outraged. That said, if Crash wins, the Internet riots are going to be full of fun, drama and dead threats. I don´t know if I want it to happen or I am deeply scared of the possibility.
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:26 am |
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Chris
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Box wrote: Americans voted for Bush.
Twice.
Once, actually.
And I love how it says "semi-scientific poll." 
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Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:05 am |
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andaroo wrote: lennier wrote: roo, you've spoiled me. I used to think Crash was OK, but you've made me grow to loathe it sooo much. Damn you, damn my small, pathetic little mind. I can only show you the door... you have to take the red pill... or something. I don't think Crash is "utter" tripe because it is well crafted for all of its supposed sins. I can't fault it that. I can't think of what is the worst Best Picture winner if it won... Crash, Braveheart or Marty.
Bravehear at least has the crazy Irishman so I feel that gives it an edge.
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