The 'Lost' Thread (Season 2)
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Mister Ecks
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http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_ma ... 1|,00.html
The story is about JJ Abrams, his involvement on "Lost" and "Alias", as well as MI:3.
Basically, on "Lost", he admits he has nothing to do with the show this year, and that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have taken the reigns. And, he won't be directing the "Alias" finale. Oh well. We probably won't see it until it hits DVD anyway.
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Shack
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Well, I guess that explains some things.
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse...die. 
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Mister Ecks
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Well, Damon and Carlton have really been running the show since "Deux Ex Machina". They penned that together, then "Exodus", and have controlled it since.
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Raffiki
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More than anything I'm disappointed that Abrams is not going to direct the Alias finale. That's quite disheartening.
They had mentioned in a press release, I think, that in some way the finale was gonna link back to the series premiere. I don't exactly know who much it would relate, if at all, but knowing Abrams won't be completing what he started just really disappoints me.
He's starting to annoy me now. Can't he stick with one project? I'm not blaming him or anything for Alias or Lost, mainly because from his lack of Alias came Lost and I haven't found Lost to be lacking much. I'm proud that Cuse and Lindelof have carried this now for quite a while. I have always felt Abrams contributed the least and while I'm happy he's finally getting his dues, I'm feeling the true talents that are keeping this show alive are being undervalued and going somewhat unnoticed. We know Lindelof, but how about Carlton Cuse?
Anyway.... can't wait for this Wednesday. My midterm finishes at 8pm, so I'll be home just in time with nothing on my mind! 
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Hoban Washburne
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I was hoping the least Abrams would do is write and direct the series finale of Alias, but i always figured he wouldn't do it. I don't hate him or anything, but he really is not the amazing guy people give him credit for. He was heavily involved with Felicity when it started (he wrote or cowrote something like 13eps in the first season) but by S4 (its last one) he wrote just one and it wasn't even the finale. Then Alias comes along and he was heavily involved in the first season, less in the second, barely there in the third, in season 4 he cowrote the premiere, and he has yet to write a single one in S5 and i doubt that he will be if he's not doing the finale.
Abrams was never as involved in Lost as some people gave him credit for. He really only did the pilot and then his involvement went straight downhill from there to the point where now his name is just on it.
He seems better suited for movies as those require a lot of attention for a year or some amount of time and then he can move on to some other project.
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Mister Ecks
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JJ Abrams probably had his hand in Season 1 of "Lost" and the recent seasons of "Alias" (besides this season), but he's not directly writing or directing anything, so obviously the praise shouldn't blindly be bestowed on him. Say what you will about the last years of "The X-Files", but Chris Carter stuck with the show until the end, and wrote many episodes. He did his part. But, Seasons 8 and 9 aren't the most adored seasons of the show, so... whatever.
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Finally watched the episode.
It was good and all, but from when Sawyer came out with the guns and on it started to seem...odd. Like kind've ridicoulous. After all of the growth they've put him through in these two seasons, he goes and does something like this? And his reasoning wasn't that solid, it's hard to believe he just wants to be hated. It looked to me like he was enjoying being a good guy and flirting with Kate all the time. And as much as I think Josh Holloway is great, I don't know if he handled that whole confession thing too well. As for Charlie...ugh. I wonder if the writers are trying to make him look menacing, because to me he just looks like some confused muppet-baby or something. It's hard to think of him as evil. And I wasn't too impressed with the flashback either really. It was sort've useless, it was outlining one of his many cons that meant nothing to Sawyer's overall journey. I would've liked it better if he decided that he really was falling for the girl, and he persuaded her to be with him as his permanent girlfriend/partner or future wife. Maybe they'll get her to reappear in one of his episodes in the future, but I doubt it.
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I didn't buy the turn. Neither Sawyer's nor Charlie's.
Better-than-average, though.
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Raffiki
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Dkmuto wrote: I didn't buy the turn. Neither Sawyer's nor Charlie's.
Better-than-average, though.
Sawyer's is a pretty big gulp.
But Charlie's turn is pretty understandable. It would have been more believable if he was using though!
I think alot of people's problem with Sawyer turning was that it came so suddenly. But, they were obviously planning something for him. He had nothing to do almost the whole season so far and they were waiting to bring him back. The reasoning should be that now that he just sat back and did nothing, everyone was turning against each other and the whole camp was becoming a mess, so he decided he didn't want to stand in the sidelines anymore, so he took matters into his own hands.
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Raffiki wrote: Sawyer's is a pretty big gulp.
Why? He digs Kate. He's jealous of Kate. Sawyer also doesn't like feelings and pushes people away from him when they get too close. Completely consistent with how his character has behaved.
He's played along for 9 days or so to get off the island, but he's given up hope, he's been shot, talked to and seen first hand the devistation of The Others, sees the writing on the wall.
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Oh, snap.
A) The stupid button does some crazy Devil mumbo-jumbo if it hits 0 before starting over again? Hrm.
B) Stupid guy WAS lying. Douche.
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Best episode of the season. Maybe its because we finally see Sayid minus the stupid love story, well, almost.
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Hurley loves to eat.
The solider's picture, was that someone?
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BaronVonMunich wrote: Hurley loves to eat.
The solider's picture, was that someone?
It was Kate.
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Libs wrote: Oh, snap.
A) The stupid button does some crazy Devil mumbo-jumbo if it hits 0 before starting over again? Hrm.
It looked Egyptian or something.
The picture was definitely Kate.
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Good episode, except the bitch is lying! He has no beard and hes been on there for four months? Hurley...fat ass. How has he not been caught before. I have a feeling though that Sawyer will give up the guns pretty soon. But I wish Locke would not have typed in the code!!!!
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in the coming attractions > where the girl was taken > was that where the other group ( Michelle Rod..) was staying ??? o was it the hatch ???
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Goldie wrote: in the coming attractions > where the girl was taken > was that where the other group ( Michelle Rod..) was staying ???
No, their bunker was really destroyed and empty. There was a clean bunker in the flashbacks. I think Claire's flashbacks are going to actually be of the two weeks NOT her back story! By next week there will be a third bunker/hatch and there is...
[spoil]a fourth one in the water[/spoil]
Other than Sayid's totally cool back story, we now know that the button actually does do *something*. Something was powering up when Locke turned it off.
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andaroo1
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Also Sayid was 23 during the first Gulf War (he said he had 6 more years of torture after that). If we assume the plane crashed in late summer 2004, he is now 36.
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Hmmm... the episode was pretty good. IT was quite slow and very minimal development but some great interactions!
My favorite part was when JAck was just like "shut up" to Locke, lol.
Sayid's back story was good. But I wonder how long we're gonna get these flashbacks that consist of minimal connection to the island and just relative to what each character is doing in that episode. It seesm the first wave of flashbacks, for the most part, were what they were all doing before getting on the flight. The next wave was something about them... kinda the wave we should be closing now. So, what's the next wave? The same?
So, what did they do with him after JAck stepped in. And does anyone know if this was the same guy from the Practice that Bobby was accused of plotting in his murder (the one with his head in the freezer)????
I didn't realize the picture was Kate till you guys said it. I rewinded it and it most definitely is. Was that her step dad?
That egyptian translation is pretty cool. It is definitely what gave LOST its huge popularity in the opening of Season 2. They kind of strayed from all those signs and stuff. What ever happened to that mural? They said it was important and would come into play or something.
What is the translation though? I can't make out the first word.
Claire's episode is hopefully gonna be great. I said a page back I thought her flashback would be her missing time. I like how they tied in the last scene with next week. At first I thought why was he telling Charlie. I know Charlie has kept stuff from everyone else. I was never convinced that he forgot what happened.
They said "Coming up on Lost" Does that mean we don't get a new episode next week?
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Raffiki wrote: So, what's the next wave? The same? I'm guessing the deeper connections. Quote: Was that her step dad? Wasn't that her real father? I forget what her family structure is like. She killed her step dad who beat her, but her real father was the military man. Quote: At first I thought why was he telling Charlie. I know Charlie has kept stuff from everyone else. I was never convinced that he forgot what happened. Me neither, or that he has remembered sooner than Claire. Quote: They said "Coming up on Lost" Does that mean we don't get a new episode next week?
Apparently they are running Pilot - Part 1 next week, then Maternity Leave (new episode) on March 1.
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According to TV.com, the next new ep is March 1st.
I loved this episode. It was all about Sayid and that right there makes it great. It was lacking the ladies though, this was the 3rd ep this season where Kate was absent (the others being eps 6 (Shannon) and 7 (tailies)) and like the billionth without Sun. She has no story this season. I wish that there were no tail section survivors or that there were only 2 or 3 (Eko, Libby, and maybe Bernard. i could live without him). i am liking that we are finally getting back to the neglected characters (Sayid, Claire, Charlie, Sawyer).
that guy is definitely up to no good, none (it doesn't help that he was an absolute psycho on the Practice). that look he gave Sayid was the point where i was sure he was lying.
I want to know what the point of the Sawyer story was. Sawyer is one of my top 5 favorites, but i dont get what his whole storyline was about. was it just to have him be a baddass and kill a frog or something?
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IMO...
Scenario #1: Henry Gale is who he says he is. Which means he serves another purpose in the story. Maybe he brings the sickness to the camp? This means the balloon crash is now the 6th confirmed crash/shipwreck on the island, including Flight 815, Rousseau's team, Desmond's ship, Eko's brother's plane, and the Black Rock.
Scenario #2: Henry Gale is who he says he is... mostly. Elements of his story are true. Maybe the crash, but maybe he was incorporated into the group of The Others long before the 4 months. (Note the 4... I'm just saying). Maybe he's not an other at all... but he's gotta know something more about the island perhaps.
Scenario #3: Henry Gale is an Other and was captured accidently by Rousseau. It is possible, some others will killed by Eko and Ana Lucia and Ethan was shot by Charlie. The others seem very strong, but they are not invincible.
Scenario #4: Henry Gale is a full on Other and his capture was rigged in some way. Did this involve Rousseau? Is she playing along to buy back favor from The Others? In this way, I don't think Henry expected to be shot (or did he?) and was brought back to the hatch to spy on the camp (he knew they would take him to Jack in the hatch). Maybe he didn't count on Sayid and Sayid's tactics for getting answers.
I'm leaning towards 4.
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Raffiki
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andaroo wrote: Quote: Was that her step dad? Wasn't that her real father? I forget what her family structure is like. She killed her step dad who beat her, but her real father was the military man.
She later finds out that the guy she blew up with the house was her actual father and the father she though she had (the military guy) was her step father! If I'm not mistaken! 
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