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 The New World 

What grade would you give this film?
A 55%  55%  [ 24 ]
B 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
C 18%  18%  [ 8 ]
D 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
F 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 44

 The New World 
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Kypade
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bradley witherberry wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
that goes without saying

I call BS...

:thumbsdown:

(I lost quite a bit of respect for your intellectual integrity on that one...)
you dont think loyal knew that imax films were filmed differently than regular ones?

i think i'd have to agree with him...that does go without saying.


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:06 pm
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wow, i didnt know so many had even seen that movie. i hadnt heard of it til a couple weeks ago :o


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:07 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
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I like Snow Falling on Cedars :mad:


Did you just disagree with THE Loyal? :disgust: :nonono:


:ohmy:


You're sleeping on the coach tonight, buster.

How could you not like SFC? :mad:

Proves I'm not a clone of loyal.


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:10 pm
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lennier wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
Neostorm wrote:
lennier wrote:
I like Snow Falling on Cedars :mad:


Did you just disagree with THE Loyal? :disgust: :nonono:


:ohmy:


You're sleeping on the coach tonight, buster.

How could you not like SFC? :mad:

Proves I'm not a clone of loyal.


I'm looking for a Billy Hatchet and the Mohawks photo. :happy:


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:19 pm
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kypade wrote:
bradley witherberry wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
that goes without saying

I call BS...

:thumbsdown:

(I lost quite a bit of respect for your intellectual integrity on that one...)
you dont think loyal knew that imax films were filmed differently than regular ones?

i think i'd have to agree with him...that does go without saying.

He may very well have know the answer, but he did not communicate it when asked by lennier and Neostorm - his answer, as quoted below, was: "It's all about the quality of the stock. Most of your Imax films are shot in 70mm. But 65mm/70mm is very expensive compared to 35mm. You'll often get 35mm prints blown-up for some Imax theatres." That does not answer the question of what's so special about 65/70mm film - it is neither the "quality of the stock" nor it's cost - it is the increased resolution gained by it's larger frame size.

loyalfromlondon wrote:
bradley witherberry wrote:
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What's so specially about 65mm?

:unsure:


I was going to ask the same thing :oops: I'm so clueless about these aspects of filmmaking.


It's all about the quality of the stock. Most of your Imax films are shot in 70mm. But 65mm/70mm is very expensive compared to 35mm. You'll often get 35mm prints blown-up for some Imax theatres.


Just to clarify...

While it's true that IMAX uses 70mm film stock, the frame is oriented the other way to allow a much picture larger area:
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It is in fact 3 times as big as a 70mm film frame and 10x bigger than a 35mm film frame...


that goes without saying

If anyone is really interested in the technical facts behind 65mm/70mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70_mm_film


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:47 pm
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It really does go without saying.

Bradley, you try too hard.


Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:58 pm
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Congratulations on The New World's BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY Academy Award nomination!

:notworthy: :clap2: :smoke:

Drinks all around :beer:









No Kilcher sucks though :disgust: .


Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:24 pm
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Indeed.

Congrats to Emmanuel Lubezki. He's been nominated twice before. In 1996 for The Little Princess and in 2000 for Sleepy Hollow. :1st:


Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:34 pm
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Crap. I spelled couch as coach, didn't I? :hahaha:

Moving along :roll:

I'm glad to see The New World get its recognition for cinematography. Yay


Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:03 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
It really does go without saying.

Bradley, you try too hard.

No big deal, loyal - I just never react well to arrogance...

:smile:


Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:09 pm
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bradley witherberry wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
It really does go without saying.

Bradley, you try too hard.

No big deal, loyal - I just never react well to arrogance...

:smile:


no worries. :shades:


Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:19 pm
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Glad to see New World getting a cinematogrophy nomination. I'm rooting for it to win. 'Shame none of it's other technical achievements could be recognized.

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Huh, I didn't expect it to get a Cinematogpahy nod, but I'm happy as hell that it did. Here's hoping it wins, although it will probably go to Brokeback Mountain.


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You know, I actually put New World down as winning cinematography this year. I know, I know, but hear me out.

I did this in "nuetral" fashion. I first thought GNAGL might take it, for the love of black and white, but nothing appeals to voters more than landscapes. So then it was between Brokeback and New World (sorry, Batman doesn't have a chance, but it's nice it got a nom).

Aside from the fact that voters are all over the place this year, and I don't see any film winning more than three categories, I figured New World must have impressed itself on the minds of voters quite a bit to even be under consideration at this point. This is the Sith arguement. That had voters been that impressed with Sith, they would have given it a special effects nom despite all its other short-comings. I see them being so impressed with New World, that they gave it cinematography despite not really liking any other element that much, the lukewarm critical and audiance reception, etc. The only person I see beating it (for landscape reasons) is Brokeback. I don't know why, but Constant Gardener doesn't seem in the running (even though it is a very worthy opponent).

That and the cinematographer has been up twice before, also for movies that weren't that "big." Including a kids movie. So clearly, he goes over very well with voters.

I call New World takes the Oscar for cinematography, and rightfully so.


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Um...is there actually a bigger review thread in this section than this one?

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I don't think so.

It even beat King Kong.

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Kong has double I think.


Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:01 pm
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I'm hoping to finally see this at some point next week.

It's funny. All these hosannas and blow jobs have somehow lowered my expectations. Too much hyperbole, I imagine. :lol:

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yoshue wrote:
I'm hoping to finally see this at some point next week.

It's funny. All these hosannas and blow jobs have somehow lowered my expectations. Too much hyperbole, I imagine. :lol:


Blow Jobs? I miss all the cool parties. :cry:


Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:02 pm
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Please don't ever crack a joke that associates me and bjs. I find them very personal, and if you scan everyone of my exorbitantly useless posts, you'll not once catch me making such an association either with myself or anyone else on this forum. Thanks.

Otherwise, point well taken, but hey...it actually really was my logic. Voters like landscapes, and I find the order to be 3. Gardener (this may be due to the fact I really never got into the movie at all), and a tie for BBM and New World. However, I have BBM winning three of its other noms, so...I've got 72 DVDs riding on that guess, about 7 of which I'm keeping and the I'm giving to kids in the libraries, so I tried to make the decision carefully.


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dolcevita wrote:
You know, I actually put New World down as winning cinematography this year. I know, I know, but hear me out.

I did this in "nuetral" fashion. I first thought GNAGL might take it, for the love of black and white, but nothing appeals to voters more than landscapes. So then it was between Brokeback and New World (sorry, Batman doesn't have a chance, but it's nice it got a nom).

Aside from the fact that voters are all over the place this year, and I don't see any film winning more than three categories, I figured New World must have impressed itself on the minds of voters quite a bit to even be under consideration at this point. This is the Sith arguement. That had voters been that impressed with Sith, they would have given it a special effects nom despite all its other short-comings. I see them being so impressed with New World, that they gave it cinematography despite not really liking any other element that much, the lukewarm critical and audiance reception, etc. The only person I see beating it (for landscape reasons) is Brokeback. I don't know why, but Constant Gardener doesn't seem in the running (even though it is a very worthy opponent).

That and the cinematographer has been up twice before, also for movies that weren't that "big." Including a kids movie. So clearly, he goes over very well with voters.

I call New World takes the Oscar for cinematography, and rightfully so.

A quality assessment. I also think it has a great chance of edging out Brokeback Mountain for the win in this category. Malick's previous film, The Thin Red Line, was equally as breathtaking, but lost (justifiably) to Saving Private Ryan for cinematography at the 1999 Oscars. Maybe this fact will earn The New World a little more support this year.


loyalfromlondon wrote:
Kong has double I think.

King Kong's review thread is 18 pages.

It's just a matter of time...


Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:30 pm
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A bit of info (thanks littlegoldenguy.com)

So we know Emmanuel Lubezki was twice nominated (Sleepy Hollow, Little Princess)

Here's his competition

Dion Beebe for Memoirs - Nominated once before Chicago (lost)

Robert Elswit for Good Night - First time nominee

Rodrigo Prieto for Brokeback - First time nominee

Wally Pfister for Batman - First time nominee

ASC guild nominations match up 4/5 this year with the AMPAS. Andrew Lesnie was nominated for Kong.


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This thread is the new pube. Totally. :shades:


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Holy cow, how did this movie get 14 pages? :ohmy:

Biggest box-office to review pages ratio ever, by a landslide.

But by the way, I don't think this is the biggest thread. I'm pretty sure The Ring 2 has higher.

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