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BennyBlanco
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loyalfromlondon wrote: The piano, is it Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 23?
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Adagio from Piano Concerto No 23 in A, K 488 methinks.
Does anyone have the file to share? I have it up on rapidshare. Everyone, help yourselves.
http://rapidshare.de/files/11988036/Piano_Concerto_23.mp3.html
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MikeQ.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: MikeQ. wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: The piano, is it Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 23?
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Adagio from Piano Concerto No 23 in A, K 488 methinks.
Does anyone have the file to share? I do! I can send it via e-mail, if that's what you want. Not sure whether there is somewhere where I can "host" a music file. PEACE, Mike. Mike, you are the greatest.  loyalfromlondon@aol.comSent! Enjoy.
PEACE, Mike.
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Libs
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I have to say, I never thought a thread on this movie would get up to 9 pages.
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kypade
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Are you planning on seeing it? If so, good. If not, you should. :O
No really, I highly doubt you'll find it boring - and if you DON;T find it boring, I can't see you not liking it, truthfully.
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Libs
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kypade wrote: Are you planning on seeing it? If so, good. If not, you should. :O
No really, I highly doubt you'll find it boring - and if you DON;T find it boring, I can't see you not liking it, truthfully. I don't knowwww, maybe I will, there's really nothing to see.
At all.
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kypade
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Not a Big Mama's House fan? : (
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zennier
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Got anything else to share from the score?  I might just be saved from buying it...
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zennier
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kypade wrote: Not a Big Mama's House fan? : (
:O Who isn't!? 
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Joker's Thug #3
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Is there anyone who saw the original cut and the new cut? Wonder how much of a difference it made. I think im gonna have to go see this good or bad.
_________________ "People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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BennyBlanco
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lennier wrote: Got anything else to share from the score? I might just be saved from buying it... Heh, no I haven't been able to "obtain" any more of the score as of yet, but I'll be keeping a look out. This is a score that I would definitely consider buying, but I have found it difficult in the past trying to find film scores for smaller movies. Heck, even The Village soundtrack was unavailable at any of the record stores in my city, I had to specially order it if I wanted it, which probably would have cost twice as much as a regular cd. I also don't buy stuff online so that leaves downloading as my last resort.
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 makeshift wrote: Sorry it's taken so long, but here are some more consice thoughts on the film...
Malick's direction is uniformly brilliant, and a huge step up from his dreadful work on The Thin Red Line. Some of the shot compositions in this film are so masterful, you just want to freeze them and hang them on your wall. He manages to make a film that is two hours and ten minutes and rather light on plot flow and move with ease so it feels much more like an hour and a half.
The cinematography had to be fantastic to be able to pull off the shots and look Malick invisioned, and it is. It's one of the most beautifully photographed films you're likely to see.
The acting is great all around. Farrell gives one of his better performances and Bale is fantastic as usual. The two real standouts here, though, are Christopher Plummer and Q'Orianka Kilcher. Kilcher especially is so amazing that you forget that she's even acting. One of the better female performances of the year, bar none.
It's been touched on so many times in this thread, I feel it's almost redundant to do so again, but it has to be said... James Horner's score is a total masterpiece. The most beautiful and touching moments in the film are when Malick kills all sound except for Horner's score and just lets the music, his actors, and his images do all the talking. The scenes with Rebecca and John in the woods as they slowly discover their love for one another are some of the best moments i've seen in a film not only this year, but in any year. And Horner's score just sets it all off.
Now, for the bad, and there is some...
No matter what anyone says, the film IS extremely self-indulgent at points (which brings the pace to a crawl), and it does lose quite a bit of it's steam when it moves the characters from the colony to England. It makes up for this misstep in the final minutes, but it does bring the film down.
All in all, I feel that The New World is one of the better films i've seen this year, but it's certainly not without it's faults. I'll give it a weak A-, and it did manage to bump Capote from my top ten and take it's place at number ten. Your review seems very balanced, good work.
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dolcevita
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Killuminati510 wrote: Is there anyone who saw the original cut and the new cut? Wonder how much of a difference it made. I think im gonna have to go see this good or bad. No. Unfortuntely I went back to the same theatre i saw it in Decemeber at, and it was the same reels. I was actually consideirng going to AMC, which did not have the first run, and seeing if it was didfferent, but I'm going to check what it lists as the runnning time, etc, and then decide. Let us know what you though.
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andaroo1
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I get to see this at noon I guess.
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Dr. Lecter
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: I would like to take a minute and explain my year end ranking for The New World. I've mentioned several times in the Top 10 of 2005 thread that my #1 (A History of Violence) and #2 (Grizzly Man) were interchangable. I would also say that my #3 film (The New World) is also interchangable. All 3 films deal with a strong single theme and they do so extraordinarily. AHOV is about, well violence and the need to conceal it. Grizzly Man is rooted in obsession and its destructive nature. The New World is above all else, about love. How love heals, how it restores faith, how it's the most powerful force known to man. So even though The New World isn't #1 in print, it certainly shares the spot. But there is a reason why AHOV is #1 actually...something gave it the edge...  As romantic and obsessive as I am, I'm still all about the sex and violence. Best reply of the day  _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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andaroo1
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See... it's like this...
01 Munich
02 The New World
03 Downfall
04 King Kong
05 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
06 Good Night, and Good Luck.
07 A History of Violence
08 Grizzly Man
09 Oldboy
10 Nobody Knows
James Horner is a god now.
Oh, and for those keeping score at home, I had yet another horrible theater experience, so much so that I told the guy behind me and to the right of my 6 spaces away how much he pissed me off during the movie. Every time the film faded to black (which is quite often for those who have seen it) he would comment about *something* and his idiot wife would laugh.
Bastards the lot of 'em.
Libs, you like romantic movies, and the romance in this film is the best of 2005 in my opinion. I don't know why you are so scared of it.
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Score.
More thoughts?
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andaroo1
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lennier wrote: Score.
More thoughts? I got teary about an hour in when Smith and Poca were froliking in the woods and then it cut to a vista with Horner music. Knowing that "that" would all be gone and lost no matter what now.
The movie was kind of summed up for me in the last 5 minutes when Rolfe was all like...
"You walked into a situation you could never have anticipated"
and Pocahontas is all...
"You are the man I thought you were"
I thought the movie could have any time have gone off the tracks, it could have been TOO MUCH about the "naturals" it could have been too much about Jamestown, it could been too much of anything.
Otherwise I agree a lot with Dolce's review.
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Libs
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Well, we actually tried to go see this tonight.
But it was sold out, along with pretty much every movie playing. Give it another shot later, I guess.
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dolcevita
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andaroo wrote: lennier wrote: Score.
More thoughts? I got teary about an hour in when Smith and Poca were froliking in the woods and then it cut to a vista with Horner music. Knowing that "that" would all be gone and lost no matter what now. The film was very emotional at moments for me too. Quote: The movie was kind of summed up for me in the last 5 minutes when Rolfe was all like...
"You walked into a situation you could never have anticipated"
and Pocahontas is all...
"You are the man I thought you were"
I thought the movie could have any time have gone off the tracks, it could have been TOO MUCH about the "naturals" it could have been too much about Jamestown, it could been too much of anything. I'm losing you there (though I'm tipsy so that might just be me). Do you mean it had the potential to go too far into settlement politics, or that it didn't? Quote: Otherwise I agree a lot with Dolce's review. Thank-you. That means alot to me, as you're one of the few people (as far as films) whose opinions I take very seriously.
I work hard on those reviews in the hopes that all of you guys get a little bit out of them, and I'm glad you did as far as New World is concerned.
So you liked it alot on the visceral and film level, but stood back and realized it still had some content issues?
Did you like it? I remember leaving it and being awstruck, but knowing to hold back and mull over the actual content. What everyone has said about the romance is 100% true, but for me, that romance is a conservative reading of the encounter. I really find a great deal of wealth in the execution of the film, and was deeply engaged throughout, butt I know enough to know that Malick could have taken the plunge to make it 100% projection, and yet he chose to go only 90%. That 10% is what still has me question, but makes me realize the potential in a film like this where more polished works wouldn't be a springboard for the future. I reallly liked "being there," as in watching the film, and am still glad that afterwards allowed for interpretation and exploration of where it could have gone one step further.
I am releived you liked it (as it sounds like you did), or I would have been traumatized promoting it to you, and makeshift, and others. I'm glad you went and checked it out.
You have to admit its odd how split audiance reception is. Everyone I know (or overheard) either loved it or was so bored they snickered at the end. While I could understand aversion to content, I have no idea how people were bored.
Thanks for seeing it. 
@Libs, please let me know what you thought afterwards. I can't wait to hear from you.
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dolcevita
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Holy! I missed this post!
Yayayayayayay!
andaroo wrote: See... it's like this...
01 Munich
02 The New World
03 Downfall
04 King Kong
05 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
06 Good Night, and Good Luck.
07 A History of Violence
08 Grizzly Man
09 Oldboy
10 Nobody Knows
James Horner is a god now. Yah. I've been listening to Benny's links all day while I was getting ready to leave the house. Quote: Oh, and for those keeping score at home, I had yet another horrible theater experience, so much so that I told the guy behind me and to the right of my 6 spaces away how much he pissed me off during the movie. Every time the film faded to black (which is quite often for those who have seen it) he would comment about *something* and his idiot wife would laugh.
Bastards the lot of 'em.  Quote: Libs, you like romantic movies, and the romance in this film is the best of 2005 in my opinion. It is. Made even better by the metaphor of what the romance stands for. Quote: I don't know why you are so scared of it. Because apparently Thin Red Line was painful. I haven't seen Line, but have heard it from many people I trust. So I understand the hesitation. But I think enough people have vouched for its engaging nature, that I don't think anyone should hesitate to see it. Honestly, the trailer was so misguided, I think the people that resented it (in the audiance) where those expecting another Last of the Mohicans. Its much better, actually. And this is coming from someone who shamefully admits they *kind of* liked Mohicans, even with all its problems. New World is evocative as a film, and interesting as a concept.
I take back my previous post question, as now I see for sure you liked it.
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Welcome to the team Roo.
We're handing out t-shirts and copies of my lastest book "Is Loyal Ever Wrong?"
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Dr. Lecter
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andaroo wrote: See... it's like this...
01 Munich
02 The New World
03 Downfall
04 King Kong
05 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
06 Good Night, and Good Luck.
07 A History of Violence
08 Grizzly Man
09 Oldboy
10 Nobody Knows
James Horner is a god now.
Oh, and for those keeping score at home, I had yet another horrible theater experience, so much so that I told the guy behind me and to the right of my 6 spaces away how much he pissed me off during the movie. Every time the film faded to black (which is quite often for those who have seen it) he would comment about *something* and his idiot wife would laugh.
Bastards the lot of 'em.
Libs, you like romantic movies, and the romance in this film is the best of 2005 in my opinion. I don't know why you are so scared of it. WTH? I'm scared to see this movie now. Apparently it hypnothizes people and converts them into The New World raving Borgs.
 _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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I'm tempted to write a full review for the main site so that I can influence even more people (those unable to comprehend Dolce's big words).
I've been moving away from the critic who owns a website to a website owner who on occasion critiques films. Then I won't piss off any more studios (I said I was sorry Warner Brothers  )
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Bradley Witherberry
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zingy
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And, apparently, you have to watch the whole thing.
I lucked out...
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