Um...Zingy already gave it a try...

and walked out after an hour.

Yeah, okay. Because, you know, it's not common for humans to feel intimidated by those who act smarter? I mean, are you one to talk back to the kid in your Physics class who proves your professor wrong?!


I think you missed my point, so maybe I didn't explain it well. I'm thinking some people (no names) are giving The New World A+/A/A- grades because they don't dare challenge those who initially gave the movie A+/A/A- grades. This has nothing to do with making Galia feel satisfied. Frankly, I think one would appease Galia more by challenging her views. I'm sure she feels good when she gets a challenger to realize one of her refutations!


What does everyone's diverse tastes have to do with feeling intimidated by a few people who know a lot about film?


I can't comment on how I write, really.

But thanks for telling me I sound obnoxious, I guess.

Anyone else download that link to Wagner's prelude that benny gave us on page 5? I'm just listening to it on my ipod now. Nice.

I'm torn between Ross and Galia!!! What shall I do!?!

*spontaneously combusts*

Yeah, thought I would remind you...

Ross go see the movie, it really is great

I mentioned in my first post that I could be jumping to conclusions. It's a weird trend, but it's something I've done. I don't think it's an unreasonable point, especially when dealing with a Malick movie that everyone seems to love.

The movie was still on your Top 12 list and on your FYC posts in the thread. I'm not saying that you're the key here; I think loyal had a bit to do with it, too.


I might try to see it this weekend. Just to let you know, I didn't post because of a particular aversion to Malick, Ferell, or anyone involved. This has been bugging me for a while.

More people might be a better indication, but I don't think that changes my point that some of us are intimidated, and will choose the easy way out like lennier did by simply saying "Wow, Beautiful. A+" and leaving the thread.


Again, I said I might be assuming a little bit here.

I mentioned earlier, AGAIN (!) - loyal is a person people are intimidated by. It's not just you, dolce. Same with Ripper, Libs, makeshift, andaroo, and Dr. Lecter. They know film and they aren't afraid to bite back. It's intimidating, really. I think that's why I respect Zingaling a lot, even if Duffster is right in that he only watches crap (:P). He thinks individually. Same with bradley, as you pointed out!

Dolce built up the suspense and Loyal's comment through me off the edge They had a huge influence in me seeing it when I did (the day after). But, usually with me hype kills the movie (i'm looking for something wonderful bc everyone has been talking about it), so I was doubtful of my experience because of the hype (I posted somehting about it). But the movie, and especially Kilcher's performance, was extremely good

I hope you don't feel antogonized and feel that you have to hate the movie after watching it.. Try to go tabla rasa if you can

Yes, I did thoroughly enjoy The New World, but the effect that da torri was describing is quite common here in the forum (and in the outside world, too) . People often follow the flock, which is okay - we are social animals after all.

And, I certainly don't blame you, dv - I enjoy reading your opinions because you do speak your mind. You are not responsible if others hear the voice of the shepherdess...

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Strange, I seem to remember making as many points as loyal about the movie. I've got, what, 20 posts in this thread? Who would deliberately put themselves in an intimidating situation twenty times?

Oh yea, because I saw a masterpiece and I'm having a fine time chatting about it. As per usual, you push for a book report instead of excepting a few scattered comments. I'm not the type to talk about every detail and I refuse to satiate your obsession with lengthy review like Galia might give.

My casualness has nothing to do with intimidation nor lack of intelligence nor anything you might want to associate with.

I hope I am, actually. Not for people to like it, but at least to give it a chance. That's afterall, why I even review movies. To try and draw attention to ones I want to support, and detract attention from garbage. :-) But after that point, its still up to who saw it to say if they liked it or not. But yeah, I'm happy if some people who know my tatses checked it out. I hope I don't disappoint those people. I was sad when andaroo didn't like The Holy Girl.

I'd love to say i have the power to influence someone's grade selection, but I've seen no proof of it to date. I'm just happy getting them to consider something I think should get more attention.



Yeah, but look at his other reviews. Alot of them are like that. That's just how he posts. (still love ya' Zach)



I only mention this because it might be the first time in my life I've talked to Benny, Cleric, and Gunslinger. I doubt either of us is even really aware of the other until now. And termi never listens to me. if anything, I listen to him when he suggests horror movies, thats about it.

Anyways, I'm glad you're going to check it out. Let us know what you thought.



Not that many people ended up loving Sith, or hating Crash!

Again, I ask: Do you feel intimidated by "smarter" people in your class, and are you likely to talk back to them?

My point's legitimate; it's natural for many people to hide what they feel because of feeling intimidated (god, I'm in desperate need of a synonym here!). If you can't agree with that, there's no point responding to your posts.

I'm trying not to accuse anyone here. neostorm brings up a good point that people look for something wonderful in The New World because people here were talking about the wonderful things in the flick. I'm solely commenting on the intimidation part. I'll post more on neo's point in a bit.


The grades on both Titanic and This is Spinal Tap are very, very varied.

It's not about being a conformist, it's about intimidation and feeling like you're supposed to like something because others did. I can't detect this, so you can go ahead and talk all you want about how legit. all the opinions are. Maybe you're right!

But, ya know, thanks for responding to the part about appeasing Galia.


Nah, I don't think that's what you were aiming for. From my perspective, it looks like you were trying to make me feel insulted...

No cigar, though.

Oh, they're out there Dolce.

I feel like Zeus. If I could only convince everyone to purchase Grizzly Man.

Look into my eyes...

lennier, torri's arguement is very legit considering that The New World's not getting the "masterpiece" title outside of this forum (don't misquote and think I'm saying it has bad WOM, though). And, until just a week ago, not that many people had interest in this film at all. Half the people who have seen it in the past week went because of dolce and loyal.

I'm gonna use Jeff as an example. I could be wrong (but you can consider this revenge for the "you need to appreciate art" comment Jeff left me a week ago, heh), though. But, his initial reaction was a little weaker than his feeling on the film now, after so many people have shown great love for the film. But, yeah, it also could have grown on him, so I won't judge.

And? It's natural. Hell, I'll admit to being a little kind on a film that was well-loved in this forum, despite not liking it much at all. But, then again, I was younger, less argumentative, and an easier grader.

Again, zach: I cannot prove whether or not you fell for this or didn't. You know what you did, I don't.

The number of posts you've made proves nothing to me, though. You're jumping on a bandwagon that others have started, and you aren't saying anything new! However, the intimidation refers to the basic approval/disapproval. loyal's not going to bash you for giving the movie a B. He might, however, if you gave it a D, you know?

Read closely - my point is, people here, I believe, are intimidated and swayed into liking movies by others who bite back. They force themselves to believe that they're watching and experiencing something good.

You might be unconsciously accepting The New World as an A film because internally you're unwilling to say anything against it. At the theater, you may have had the same feeling. You may have accepted the slow parts and focused on only the good, because you knew that people you respected and considered bright liked most aspects of the film. As I said, I'm guilty of this with Million Dollar Baby.

Then again, it might just be a fluke. Yousee, in that A.I. thread, if you read it, you'd think the movie had great WoM. In fact, it's WoM was mediocre at best (shown by its legs) and the IMDB score in the worst for a Spielberg film in a while.

I said that was possible in my first post.

I'm talking about in general.

Ohh i completely disagree with you on that one Ross, high expecations kill movies for me I'm not concentrating on the good parts but instead keep looking for an AMAZING experience that normally does not happen.. this is why i normally always hate Oscar nominated movies, I keep looking for something that I cannot find, or when I do find it, I'm like "was that it?"

This is just me personally... And if you want to see how "original" I am (now that i feel i have to prove myself) ask Loyal to post my nominations for the website awards

Oh and as flattering as it is (heh), I doubt anyone is..eh..intimidated by my choices of movies, hehe.

Oh and this thread will set a record. The biggest ratio between the number of posts and the people who saw the film, hehehe.

I'm not asking for any of you to prove the validity of your points.

I'm so not explaining myself here, I can feel it. Heh.

No doubt, his point makes sense. I thought I conceded that some might be intimidated, but not this time. Pretty much everyone that has posted seems particularly articulate to me (much like I hope to be some day), and so, I disagree with the notion that they are being pushed into giving it a better grade for whatever reason.

There is no doubt dolce and loyal influenced me to go see this. They pointed out a tremendous amount of those little elements I probably would have missed out on. That's much different from intimidating me, though. Not at all.

Your avatar shows otherwise... damn you and your pack of hypnotist schoolgirls.

<adopts crusty sea captain persona>

Argh, the man speaks the truth. Never I've seen a more original list of nominees. Argh.